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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1530 on: March 16, 2010, 11:28 AM »
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Mine too highfive and despite some people saying that they will go to hell naughty I have no regrets on that score.
They'll be amongst friends.  hehe (and I'm kidding)  I don't see any way forward in teaching your kids to be scared of going out there, and making mistakes, and making their own minds about the stuff that's important to them.  Despite all you can do as a parent, your children are individuals.  Both of my kids are spiritual...  they're not shallow.  That'll do for me.  Smile I find it rewarding that they can talk to me about sex, life and how they are feeling.  

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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1531 on: March 16, 2010, 12:31 PM »
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No buy the frame Smile not that clever Smile Always find that it's hard to get frames the right size though as quite often the cross-stitches are odd sizes Rolling Eyes

So off topic here...maybe we should start a needlework/knitting thread lol

Maybe we can move our Home Ec chat to Recipes ??  Have a look over there for something of interest if you're a knitter.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1532 on: March 17, 2010, 01:16 AM »
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No, I don't think my dad was too happy, but I have 2 younger sisters (1 of which has married in a church) for him to walk down the isle.  And I do find church weddings to be a bit showy and I'm not a showy type of person.  My hubby's sister has managed it twice in a church (so far Whistle )
Unfortunately, I'm the one and only, and I know my mother was upset because I never gave her any grandchildren.  My marriage was creaking noticeably after two years, and I didn't want to bring children into that sort of environment, having experienced the volatility of my parents' marriage, and divorce became inevitable - which made me feel a bit better about not taking my vows in a church.

Incidentally, weddings do not have to be showy.  My eldest cousin got married in the vestry, wearing a simple, short blue dress, with only the bridesmaid, best man and immediate family present.  True, the minister of my parents' church did offer to marry me, or at least bless the marriage, in the hotel where the reception was held, but, as I was a stranger to him, I turned the offer down.

In case anybody's wondering, in the Church of Scotland it's always been possible to get married just about anywhere, provided a minister can be found who's willing to conduct the ceremony - and the result has been some very odd places ... underwater and the top of a mountain being two that spring to mind!  My parents were obliged to get married in a hotel because my mother's father was very ill and couldn't cope with attending church.     
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1533 on: March 17, 2010, 01:21 AM »
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True, the minister of my parents' church did offer to marry me, or at least bless the marriage, in the hotel where the reception was held, but, as I was a stranger to him, I turned the offer down.


What a pervert. No wonder you turned him down. And he offered to do it in the middle of the reception?
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1534 on: March 17, 2010, 01:30 AM »
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What a pervert. No wonder you turned him down. And he offered to do it in the middle of the reception?
Not quite sure what you mean by a pervert here - basically he was trying to keep my parents happy.  And, no, the marriage ceremony would have taken place before the reception in a room at the hotel.  That's what my parents had to do (in the then posh Grosvenor Hotel, Glasgow - believe it has another name now).  In fact hotel weddings weren't unusual in my parents' day, so much so that certainly large hotels had a "wedding suite" set aside for that purpose.
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1535 on: March 17, 2010, 01:33 AM »
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Not quite sure what you mean by a pervert here - basically he was trying to keep my parents happy.  And, no, the marriage ceremony would have taken place before the reception in a room at the hotel.  That's what my parents had to do (in the then posh Grosvenor Hotel, Glasgow - believe it has another name now).  In fact hotel weddings weren't unusual in my parents' day, so much so that certainly large hotels had a "wedding suite" set aside for that purpose.

'Twas a joke. You said the minister of your parents' church offered to marry you and "bless" the marriage in the hotel.

I was turning an innocent anecdote into something dirty. Very Happy
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1536 on: March 17, 2010, 01:49 AM »
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'Twas a joke. You said the minister of your parents' church offered to marry you and "bless" the marriage in the hotel.

I was turning an innocent anecdote into something dirty. Very Happy
Have to admit my choice of words did make them a little open to being misconstrued by those of a certain turn of mind.  Now go away and prowl the streets or something lol  I'm about to play my nightly game of online Scrabble before I go to bed - oh what excitement us oldies turn to!
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1537 on: March 17, 2010, 10:30 AM »
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Incidentally, weddings do not have to be showy.  My eldest cousin got married in the vestry, wearing a simple, short blue dress, with only the bridesmaid, best man and immediate family present.  True, the minister of my parents' church did offer to marry me, or at least bless the marriage, in the hotel where the reception was held, but, as I was a stranger to him, I turned the offer down.   

Nice that there is always the exception to the norm Very Happy
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1538 on: March 17, 2010, 07:51 PM »
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Nice that there is always the exception to the norm Very Happy

While I'll obviously want a church wedding if I ever find someone I could deal with for the rest of my life lol it would be low key...couldn't be bothered with the effort and money involved in something big and fancy Smile
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1539 on: March 18, 2010, 01:05 AM »
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While I'll obviously want a church wedding if I ever find someone I could deal with for the rest of my life lol
This begs the question - could some man be brave enough to deal with someone who seems as strong-minded as you?  Smile hug

Wedding dresses are a complete waste of money - worn once and that's it.  Mind you, when I was a bridesmaid at another cousin's wedding, we wore handmade rose-coloured dresses in some sort of satin fabric.  They were beautiful and designed so that the sleeves could be removed and we could wear them again as evening dresses.  Trouble was that, at the reception, I made the mistake of lifting up her sister's baby son and the wretched infant puked all down the front of it.  Dress totally ruined! Very Sad
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1540 on: March 18, 2010, 05:43 AM »
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Wedding dresses are a complete waste of money - worn once and that's it.  Mind you, when I was a bridesmaid at another cousin's wedding, we wore handmade rose-coloured dresses in some sort of satin fabric.  They were beautiful and designed so that the sleeves could be removed and we could wear them again as evening dresses.  Trouble was that, at the reception, I made the mistake of lifting up her sister's baby son and the wretched infant puked all down the front of it.  Dress totally ruined! Very Sad

My wedding outfit was something that I could (and did) wear at other times.  

While I'll obviously want a church wedding if I ever find someone I could deal with for the rest of my life lol it would be low key...couldn't be bothered with the effort and money involved in something big and fancy Smile

Obviously! lol  I never did want a church wedding for some reason, low key or not.

All things come to those that wait yes
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1541 on: March 18, 2010, 05:15 PM »
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This begs the question - could some man be brave enough to deal with someone who seems as strong-minded as you?  Smile hug


Think probably not lol I'd love to find the right guy someday, but I'm also okay with the thought of being single...sure there would be times when I really wanted the companionship or kids, but I'd rather be happy with myself than unhappy with the wrong person Smile
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1542 on: March 18, 2010, 06:22 PM »
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Think probably not lol I'd love to find the right guy someday, but I'm also okay with the thought of being single...sure there would be times when I really wanted the companionship or kids, but I'd rather be happy with myself than unhappy with the wrong person Smile

yes, yes and yes  hug
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1543 on: March 19, 2010, 02:08 AM »
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Think probably not lol I'd love to find the right guy someday, but I'm also okay with the thought of being single...sure there would be times when I really wanted the companionship or kids, but I'd rather be happy with myself than unhappy with the wrong person Smile
Hazel, if I had listened to what my head, and my heart, were really telling me, I'd never have got married.  A husband and children were not high on my list of priorities.  I'm an only child and was quite comfortable with my own company.  Trouble was I went through a "lonely" phase in my early 20s, and was actually contemplating a move to New Zealand, where I had relatives, when I met my ex.  After going out together for five years, unbelievable as it seems now, we both bowed to the expectations of our respective families - these things still happened 40 years ago - and the result was years of misery for both of us, then divorce, although we both eventually found happiness with different partners.  Looking back, I realise that neither of us knew what love was, and I remember standing in the Registry Office wondering what the hell I was doing there and wishing I was somewhere else - and how many brides, or bridegrooms, have felt like that, I wonder?  Have the courage of your convictions ...
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Re: Religious Discussions « Reply #1544 on: March 20, 2010, 11:14 AM »
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Life would be a lot simpler and more enjoyable if we didn't have marriage.
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