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[Mark]

eh? How on earth do you even know how much of her life involves a religion when you don't even know that bloody person well?

That's what you try and find out on a first date... well if you don't mind bringing up religion that soon like I didn't.

I agree many people say they are part of a religion but it's actually a cultural thing.

[Hazybear]

That's a cop out and you know it. You believe religion is manmade and you gave your reasons but you know full well, that's not the absolute truth just because you don't believe in it. It was very simple as I see it.

When you don't understand something that's beyond you, you either resort to personal insults or you just dismiss it saying you don't understand it. I am noticing a pattern here. I am not going to continue with this anymore. 

If you're so open to everything why are you getting so het up that Joe and Mark don't believe in God. You are confusing and make everything complicated to read.

Yes Joe believes religion is man-made. That is his view. He knows that he can't prove that as an absolute truth but he believes that it's the absolute truth. There, that's settled. Please stop going round in circles.

No, I don't see it at all. Because how would you even know whether you have something in common with that person, when you are not even going to get to know that person, because you’ve already decided your mind on it? You are already having problems getting past the notion that one is Muslim. You know something? I should feel really great that you are even speaking to me.  Thank you, Mark.

This coming from the person who said...

I don't like religion at all. Am a free spirit. Rules and boundaries are not for me. I tend not to hang out with people who are a bit too religious. It could just about anyone from any religion.

So your accusing Mark of not giving this hypothetical Muslim woman a chance of dating him yet you say yourself that you try not to hang out with anyone whose a bit too religious- despite the fact that when not talking about their beliefs you could have a lot in common. The word hypocritical comes to mind.

[Emma Jean]

Finally, the semblance of a point! Then why hold any convictions at all or have any discussion? Now THAT'S a cop out.

Emma Jean - you're a psycho.

You are still not clear on where I stand on all this. At all. I am merely playing devils' advocate here. And as I see it, you are pretty much on trial here. I didn’t claim anything so I have nothing to back up.

You, on the other hand, have a lot to prove. You said religion is manmade - prove it beyond any doubt. Do not leave until you’ve done so.

Oh and don’t tell me to take your word for it. Surely by now we are mature enough to know the difference here.

[Hazybear]

Well spotted

I'm occasionally observant

[Joe]

You are still not clear on where I stand on all this. At all. I am merely playing devils' advocate here. And as I see it, you are pretty much on trial here. I didn’t claim anything so I have nothing to back up.

You, on the other hand, have a lot to proof. You said religion is manmade - prove it beyond any doubt. Do not leave until you’ve done so.

Oh and don’t tell me take your word for it. Surely by now we are mature enough to know the difference here.

I don't have to prove anything to you and I won't be hanging around to do it - I've got Red Dead Redemption to replay from the start!

[Mark]

Are you in love with Mark and Joe or something?

You're the one who has referenced me so much in this thread... can I have both of you in love with me?

[Hazybear]

But you do realize that's only after I find out that they are a bit too religious for my taste? And that I am not making those decisions without even knowing that person?

Well Mark never said that he wouldn't get to know this person. He just said that he wouldn't date someone who had such dissimilar core beliefs and views to him. So you made a mountain out of a molehill. He never said he'd shun the person and normally you've met someone at least once before you ask them out. It's not like if Mark was on a date with a woman and found out they were muslim he'd walk out the door and abandon them-but he wouldn't look for a relationship or be 'dating' someone that dissimilar.

[Emma Jean]

You're the one who has referenced me so much in this thread... can I have both of you in love with me?

Please keep Hazel all to yourself. She seems nuts about you. Her name seems to account for it too.