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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #30 on: December 31, 2010, 12:05 PM »
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Hmmmm, I have gay (guy) friends who've talked about wanting kids, and two lesbian friends who are determined that they never will! Smile As a contrast! But then, they're a small number...
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #31 on: December 31, 2010, 12:51 PM »
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Thanks for the informative article.  Have to say that, for a woman, you seem to have met an amazing number of gay males who have been willing to confide in you.

I was basing my comments on my own generation, and therefore out of ignorance, for which I apologise.  When I was your age gay people weren't socially acceptable and so most of them went to considerable lengths to cover it up, like getting married.

I'm not homophobic though, although some of the more obviously gay males give me the shivers, so clearly some of that old prejudice still remains.  Also, probably for the very reason stated above, I've known extremely few gay/bisexual  men or women, and those not well enough to touch on such personal matters.

No, it's fine. That's where I was just coming in to explain how I thought differently. In my state, once you know one gay guy, you end up getting introduced to most of the ones that live around your area. Very Happy

Publicly, there have been quite a few gay male celebrities who have adopted lately (almost always twins for some reason). Ricky Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, and now Elton John spring to my mind, but I'm positive there are more. I think as it grows a bit more socially acceptable to be gay and adopt or to use surrogates and perhaps the stigma of "oh, you're gay and have a son? You must be abusing him then" fades, more gay/lesbian couples will adopt. I think that it doesn't really matter who you go to bed with, most people share similar goals in what they want out of life anyway. 
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #32 on: December 31, 2010, 02:36 PM »
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Nope, Aileen, I think James is definitely a bloke. Even if he is heavily disguised.

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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #33 on: December 31, 2010, 02:37 PM »
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Hmmmm, I have gay (guy) friends who've talked about wanting kids, and two lesbian friends who are determined that they never will! Smile As a contrast! But then, they're a small number...
Strange, that, about gay men, given how many married heterosexual males I know who, rather sadly, only seem to have them on sufferance!  But maybe it's the "female" in them that makes them feel like that. Think  Certainly they make wonderful nurses (and that profession does seem to attract them)because they're very often much gentler and more compassionate than their female counterparts, but they've got that added male strength to go along with it.
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #34 on: December 31, 2010, 02:43 PM »
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I have homosexual friends of both sexes and none of them have ever expressed a wish to have children ... I find that they enjoy their lives and all the freedom they have as childless couples.
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #35 on: January 02, 2011, 06:32 AM »
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I have homosexual friends of both sexes and none of them have ever expressed a wish to have children ... I find that they enjoy their lives and all the freedom they have as childless couples.
Whilst I have known lesbians, I have never known any couples, but I have always understood that some lesbians still have the natural female desire to have children.  These two articles make interesting reading  -

Lesbians parents better at raising children   [Timesonline, 15 Nov, 2009]

"Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of Dick Cheney, the former American vice-president, who is expecting her second baby later this month, said in a recent interview: “Every piece of remotely responsible research that has been done in the last 20 years has shown there is no difference between children raised by same-sex parents and children raised by opposite-sex parents. What matters is being raised in a stable, loving environment.”

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6917212.ece


Lesbian couple used 'online' sperm to conceive their son   [Perth Now, 2 Jan, 2011]

"A lesbian couple from Bunbury have joined other Australian parents turning to unregulated sperm-donation websites, which they used to help conceive their baby son ..... Australian authorities are struggling to control unregulated sperm donations to single women and those with female partners who are desperate to be mothers."

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/lesbian-couple-used-online-sperm-to-conceive-their-son/story-e6frg13u-1225980162288

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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #36 on: January 09, 2011, 12:52 PM »
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Elton John snubs showbusiness names and chooses lesbian couple as godparents for baby son


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1345443/Elton-John-snubs-showbusiness-names-chooses-lesbian-couple-godparents-baby-son.html#ixzz1AXfdZsTO
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #37 on: January 09, 2011, 02:22 PM »
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I think same-sex couples would be great parents. I just don't like the whole "buying sperm online" part.

If I end up with a man, I'm not sure If I will want a child...probably not but if I did I would adopt.
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #38 on: January 10, 2011, 02:24 AM »
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Elton John snubs showbusiness names and chooses lesbian couple as godparents for baby son
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1345443/Elton-John-snubs-showbusiness-names-chooses-lesbian-couple-godparents-baby-son.html#ixzz1AXfdZsTO
No offence intended, but I can't help thinking this child is going to grow up with some very strange ideas about relationships. 

See that the Beckhams are expecting a fourth child in the summer.  Wonder what unfortunate name this one'll be saddled with.  Brooklyn is OK, but Romeo and Cruz?

I think same-sex couples would be great parents. I just don't like the whole "buying sperm online" part.

If I end up with a man, I'm not sure If I will want a child...probably not but if I did I would adopt.
The whole idea of buying sperm online makes me feel quite sick.  Not only is it a grubby way of going about things but the users are in real danger of the consequences of using sperm which hasn't been properly tested in approved laboratory conditions.


Just noticed this pic of Elizabeth Hurley, who is tipped to be another of Zachary's godmothers.  She certainly doesn't leave much to the imagination!



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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2011, 10:27 AM »
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No offence intended, but I can't help thinking this child is going to grow up with some very strange ideas about relationships.  

I think that is quite offensive, because you are implying that homosexual relationships are 'strange'.

I agree it's not the norm, but bear in mind that almost all relationships in the media, in books, in advertising etc. are heterosexual. The child will have a different view, but that doesn't mean it's strange - perhaps it's more balanced and open minded to the range of relationships in society, Surely the most important thing is that the child grows up in a happy, loving relationship. Just think of how many kids grow up in single parent families, or with parents who are in abusive relationships....
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #40 on: January 10, 2011, 07:20 PM »
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I think that is quite offensive, because you are implying that homosexual relationships are 'strange'.

I agree it's not the norm, but bear in mind that almost all relationships in the media, in books, in advertising etc. are heterosexual. The child will have a different view, but that doesn't mean it's strange - perhaps it's more balanced and open minded to the range of relationships in society, Surely the most important thing is that the child grows up in a happy, loving relationship. Just think of how many kids grow up in single parent families, or with parents who are in abusive relationships....
I accept what you say, but any child in this situation is going to have to be very, very strong psychologically.  I can just imagine the level of bullying and prejudice he/she would be subjected to at school, and beyond, and that is an extremely unfair burden to saddle a child with.

Also, assuming the child is heterosexual, the time will come when he/she is older and falls in love with a member of the opposite sex.  Be interesting to know how they'd both cope with the usual "come and meet my parents" routine. 
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #41 on: January 10, 2011, 11:16 PM »
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I think the child's partner might be more worried that her boyfriend's parents were Elton John and David Furnish rather than the fact that they're gay!
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #42 on: January 11, 2011, 01:54 AM »
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.  I was referring to adopted offspring of non-celebritaries here.
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #43 on: January 11, 2011, 07:00 AM »
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The whole idea of buying sperm online makes me feel quite sick.  Not only is it a grubby way of going about things but the users are in real danger of the consequences of using sperm which hasn't been properly tested in approved laboratory conditions.

I agree....and its just so....eww.
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Re: Should same-sex couples be parents? « Reply #44 on: January 11, 2011, 08:47 AM »
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Also, assuming the child is heterosexual, the time will come when he/she is older and falls in love with a member of the opposite sex.  Be interesting to know how they'd both cope with the usual "come and meet my parents" routine.  

I really don't understand why you think this is going to be a problem?
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