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Clydey
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Re: The British Monarchy
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2010, 10:23 PM »
Quote from: Sir Panda on April 20, 2010, 10:21 PM
At least you are honest about that, James. I can't say I'm qualified either, but it's like atheism vs theism. The nationalists are the one making the leap of faith, the SNP need to quantify their claims.
Salmond keeps repeating this cringeworthy junk. 'Scotland needs champions'.
Seems his ideology is just to scaremonger Scottish people by reminding them of Thatcher.
I'm not a fan of Alex Salmond, to be honest. The man seems like a publicity whore and utterly disingenuous.
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« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2010, 10:25 PM »
Yeah, I know, I was replying to what you said that you don't like the fact we pay for them...
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« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2010, 10:29 PM »
Quote from: Clydey on April 20, 2010, 10:22 PM
As I said before, I'm not talking about replacing the queen with another figurehead. I'm fine with a cost to the taxpayer if the leader serves a significant purpose and is actually elected, as opposed to being born into affluence at our expense.
Yes. What
credentials do the Royal family have? They're inbred and don't have much credence. They are there, and we're all supposed to look up to them. I find that hard to get my head around.
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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2010, 10:30 PM »
Actually comparing the queen to almost all politicians, I think she personally comes out way way better.
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« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2010, 10:30 PM »
Also, who said anything about looking up to them?
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« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2010, 10:32 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on April 20, 2010, 10:30 PM
Actually comparing the queen to almost all politicians, I think she personally comes out way way better.
Because she doesn't have to make any decisions that would split opinion.
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2010, 10:33 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on April 20, 2010, 10:30 PM
Also, who said anything about looking up to them?
If the Queen is a figurehead, then it follows that her subjects look up to her. Or else, what's the point?
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« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2010, 10:34 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on April 20, 2010, 10:30 PM
Also, who said anything about looking up to them?
You're not expected to behave in front of the queen the way you would normally behave. Pretty certain Elly doesn't curtsy when she meets other people for the first time.
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« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2010, 10:36 PM »
Nah, being head of state, doesn't automatically mean you have to look up to her.
And true, she doesn't have to make decisions - but plenty of scandals with politicians are nothing to do with their decision-making.
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Re: The British Monarchy
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2010, 10:36 PM »
Quote from: Clydey on April 20, 2010, 10:34 PM
You're not expected to behave in front of the queen the way you would normally behave. Pretty certain Elly doesn't curtsy when she meets other people for the first time.
I do.... I'm a curtsy whore....
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« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2010, 10:37 PM »
It's all an act - does the way you have to behave mean you should look up to someone?
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« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2010, 10:38 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on April 20, 2010, 10:36 PM
Nah, being head of state, doesn't automatically mean you have to look up to her.
And true, she doesn't have to make decisions - but plenty of scandals with politicians are nothing to do with their decision-making.
The difference is that they can be fired and they are held accountable. She is just
there
, leeching off of us and not doing anything significant.
And come on, Yamor, you know fine and well that you would be expected to treat the queen with more respect than the average punter.
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« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2010, 10:38 PM »
Yes, of course I'd have to. Doesn't mean I 'look up to her'.
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« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2010, 10:39 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on April 20, 2010, 10:37 PM
It's all an act - does the way you have to behave mean you should look up to someone?
I didn't say that I looked up to her. I said that we are
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to revere the royals. And we are.
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« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2010, 10:39 PM »
Half the country don't look up to her, and she still functions perfectly well as head of state. Half of the US don't look up to Obama, and he's still head of state.
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