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Re: The Secret « Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 11:07 PM »
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I like them all  Very Happy
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Re: The Secret « Reply #31 on: February 08, 2010, 11:27 PM »
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Interesting how this topic gets brought up now and again.

I'm not a believer in the whole law of attraction theory because that's all it is, an idea with no evidence. However, I do think that being positive and confident can naturally lead you to living a better life but not because of some special outside force.

Is it fair to call 'The Secret' a religion?
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Re: The Secret « Reply #32 on: February 09, 2010, 11:04 PM »
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Interesting how this topic gets brought up now and again.

I'm not a believer in the whole law of attraction theory because that's all it is, an idea with no evidence. However, I do think that being positive and confident can naturally lead you to living a better life but not because of some special outside force.

Is it fair to call 'The Secret' a religion?

Before we start discussing, it would be great if you can download this ebook and have a quick browse of its principles.  Then we can have a chat.  It explains the theory much clearer than I can.  There is a danger that by not being fully aware of the details, you are dismissing this gem out of hand which would be a great shame.

Thanks.  It is under the "gifts for you" menu if this link doesn't pop up properly.

http://thesecret.tv/secret-treasures-ebooks.html
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Re: The Secret « Reply #33 on: February 09, 2010, 11:11 PM »
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I appreciate the point you're making and accept that I may not give the theory the respect it deserves. But surely regardless of how much I research about 'The Secret', it still ends up coming down to faith rather than scentific evidence.

I can barely get through a book on a subject I'm incredibly interested in so I no chance with that Smile
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Re: The Secret « Reply #34 on: February 09, 2010, 11:23 PM »
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I understand and totally respect that Smile.

It is inaccurate to say that there is no evidence.  I have watched the Video on this, and there is a section where a man is hooked to an ECG and as he thinks a thought,  a brain pattern appears.  Different kinds of thoughts produce different brain patterns.   

In the video, it explains that when they hook up an athlete to the ECG and ask them to run an imaginery race in their mind, incredibly their muscles activated the same way as if they ran the real race itself.

This is the reason why the Olympic Gold medal athletes practise visualisation, running the perfect race to hone their mind and muscles to their optimum performance.

Also, check this guy out.  The miracle man.  His story is amazing.
http://www.themiracleman.org/MichaelsStory.htm

Anyway, I prefer not to discuss this topic further.  When I have successfully integrated and activated the material with strong demonstrable results, I think it will then be a better time to discuss Smile.
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Re: The Secret « Reply #35 on: February 09, 2010, 11:28 PM »
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I was referring to the fact that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that the universe helps us if we think in a certian way.
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Re: The Secret « Reply #36 on: February 09, 2010, 11:31 PM »
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Visualisations are extremely powerful, as are the thoughts we think.  We are all 'energy' in a human form.  It makes sense that the energy you give out, will attract similar energy back. 
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Re: The Secret « Reply #37 on: February 09, 2010, 11:35 PM »
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Visualisations are extremely powerful, as are the thoughts we think.  We are all 'energy' in a human form.  It makes sense that the energy you give out, will attract similar energy back. 
You think it makes sense that if we repeatedly think of a particular materialistic object that is financially well beyond our reach, we'll end up with it from nothing but thought?
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Re: The Secret « Reply #38 on: February 09, 2010, 11:35 PM »
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http://ezinearticles.com/?Power-of-Thought-and-the-Princeton-Eggs&id=694178

Check this out.  As I mentioned earlier, the principles are very well described in the ebook link provided earlier.  I would not be doing it justice summarising it using my own words.
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Re: The Secret « Reply #39 on: February 09, 2010, 11:42 PM »
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You think it makes sense that if we keep thinking of a particular materialistic object that is well beyong our reach finaiciially, we'll naturally end up with it from nothing by thought?
I'm not sure if it's that specific, and I've no evidence to give you, Mark.  I suppose it does come down to an inner belief, and being open to it. 

Another great book on this subject is 'The Guide' by Dr. William Holden.  As Philip says, you should read up on some stuff and see if it makes any sense to you.
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Re: The Secret « Reply #40 on: February 09, 2010, 11:50 PM »
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It's about laws of attraction and I once read 'Think and Grow Rich' (can't remember if I finished it) so I know enough about this to believe my question to you was a fair one.

Simple fact is there is no evidence, that's all I was saying. It's faith based.
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Re: The Secret « Reply #41 on: February 09, 2010, 11:51 PM »
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It's about laws of attraction and I once read 'Think and Grow Rich' (can't remember if I finished it) so I know enough about this to believe my question to you was a fair one.

Simple fact is there is no evidence, that's all I was saying. It's faith based.
I'm not suggesting your question wasn't fair.  Each to his and her own.  Smile
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Re: The Secret « Reply #42 on: February 10, 2010, 12:03 AM »
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OK cool and I'm not saying it's a bad theory, quantum physics makes everything sound possible to me so I'm open to it at least Very Happy
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Re: The Secret « Reply #43 on: February 10, 2010, 12:04 AM »
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OK cool and I'm not saying it's a bad theory, quantum physics makes everything sound possible to me so I'm open to it at least Very Happy
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Re: The Secret « Reply #44 on: February 11, 2010, 08:52 PM »
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I managed at last to find a download that allows me to copy the Summary for anyone who is interested.

http://blackhawkpartners.com/images/The%20Science%20of%20Getting%20Rich.pdf

CHAPTER 17 - Summary of the Science of Getting Rich
There is a thinking stuff from which all things are made, and which, in its
original state, permeates, penetrates, and fills the interspaces of the universe.  A thought in this substance produces the thing that is imaged by the thought.

Man can form things in his thought, and by impressing his thought upon formless substance can cause the thing he thinks about to be created. In order to do this, man must pass from the competitive to the creative mind; otherwise he cannot be in harmony with the Formless Intelligence, which is always creative and never competitive in spirit.

Man may come into full harmony with the Formless Substance by entertaining a lively and sincere gratitude for the blessings it bestows upon him. Gratitude unifies the mind of man with the intelligence of Substance, so that man's thoughts are received by the Formless. Man can remain upon the creative plane only by uniting himself with the Formless Intelligence through a deep and continuous feeling of gratitude.

Man must form a clear and definite mental image of the things he wishes to have, to do, or to become; and he must hold this mental image in his thoughts, while being deeply grateful to the Supreme that all his desires are granted to him. The man who wishes to get rich must spend his leisure hours in contemplating his Vision, and in earnest thanksgiving that the reality is being given to him. Too much stress cannot be laid on the importance of frequent contemplation of the mental image, coupled with unwavering faith and devout gratitude.  This is the process by which the impression is given to the Formless, and the creative forces set in motion.

The creative energy works through the established channels of natural growth, and of the industrial and social order. All that is included in his mental image will surely be brought to the man who follows the instructions given above, and whose faith does not waver. What he wants will come to him through the ways of established trade and commerce. In order to receive his own when it shall come to him, man must be active; and this activity can only consist in more than filling his present place. He must keep in mind the Purpose to get rich through the realization of his mental image.

And he must do, every day, all that can be done that day, taking care to do each act in a successful manner. He must give to every man a use value in excess of the cash value he receives, so that each transaction makes for more life; and he must so hold the Advancing Thought that
the impression of increase will be communicated to all with whom he comes in contact.

The men and women who practice the foregoing instructions will certainly get rich; and the riches they receive will be in exact proportion to the definiteness of their vision, the fixity of their purpose, the steadiness of their faith, and the depth of their gratitude.
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