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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #30 on: September 25, 2006, 10:17 PM »
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if i know anything about military strategy i know this... its better to beat the enemy down sooner rather than later... overwhelming force to start and they just might say, "whoa hold on a sec..." but military tactics are still not where they should be...

Very true David, but tell me are Iran really the enemy? That's the question you have to ask.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #31 on: September 25, 2006, 10:18 PM »
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But that's just not going to happen. They thought that that would happen in WW1 and look what happened there, more recently (because WW1 is perhaps not the best example....), look at the Israel - Lebanon conflict - Israel's perhaps disproportionate response just warranted more aggression from Hezbollah.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #32 on: September 25, 2006, 10:18 PM »
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i dont think Iran is really the enemy at all. there isnt one... the US is making them up to beat its haters into submission, but that will only make it worse...
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #33 on: September 25, 2006, 10:20 PM »
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Very true David, but tell me are Iran really the enemy? That's the question you have to ask.

I really think people focuse too much on how bad Americans are. There's two sides to the story and I won't join the "America is bad" side.
I hate all those films who don't show the two sides.
I know I'm probably the only one who thinks like this. I do know Bush is an idiot, but what would have happened if the Americans didn't take thousands of lives? Perhaps the world would be even worse.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #34 on: September 25, 2006, 10:23 PM »
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if the USA hadn't stepped in at WW 2 the world would be a very different place now... if the USA hadnt stepped in at desert storm and also more recently??? well, for all we know the world could be better...
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #35 on: September 25, 2006, 10:24 PM »
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if the USA hadn't stepped in at WW 2 the world would be a very different place now...

They saved our arses, but everyone seems to have forgotten it.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #36 on: September 25, 2006, 10:24 PM »
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I really think people focuse too much on how bad Americans are. There's two sides to the story and I won't join the "America is bad" side.
I hate all those films who don't show the two sides.
I know I'm probably the only one who thinks like this. I do know Bush is an idiot, but what would have happened if the Americans didn't take thousands of lives? Perhaps the world would be even worse.

Genuinly have no idea what makes you believe there is another side to this story. America really is bad Dentie and if you try and do your own research then I'm convinced you'll see them as such.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #37 on: September 25, 2006, 10:25 PM »
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america is bad... not all americans are bad... but the side itself is yes... quite bad.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #38 on: September 25, 2006, 10:25 PM »
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Genuinly have no idea what makes you believe there is another side to this story. America really is bad Dentie and if you try and do your own research then I'm convinced you'll see them as such.

There's always two parts to make a war.
That's just your opinion Mark, it's not because you believe it, it is correct.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #39 on: September 25, 2006, 10:25 PM »
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They saved our arses, but everyone seems to have forgotten it.

That's surely irrelevant? We are talking about the current state of America. I'm sure some of the most unethical countries in the world have done great things in the past.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #40 on: September 25, 2006, 10:26 PM »
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If the Russian Revolution hadn't happened in 1917 we'd probably be speaking German, but there probably wouldn't have been WW2.
If Versailles hadn't been signed, we probably wouldn't have had Hitler.
Just a comment....not really related.

(But, seriously the America idea of their contribution to Europe in the 20th Century is SO annoying - I'm not having a go at you Dave, because what you said was spot on, but it's just the attitude in the class I'm taking....dear lord....)
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #41 on: September 25, 2006, 10:27 PM »
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That's surely irrelevant? We are talking about the current state of America. I'm sure some of the most unethical countries in the world have done great things in the past.

Maybe, but I'm just thankful for that.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #42 on: September 25, 2006, 10:27 PM »
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Genuinly have no idea what makes you believe there is another side to this story. America really is bad Dentie and if you try and do your own research then I'm convinced you'll see them as such.

But you're just proving what Dentie said - we're all undermined by our lack of ability to see the other side of the story. You can't classify a nation as 'bad'.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #43 on: September 25, 2006, 10:28 PM »
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I don't think we should ever bring up these past events in history when we are having a discussion about this.

If I saved a life by putting myself in danger 10 years ago but went about killing innocent children then the past is irrelevant, I'm an evil sick ******* right here and now.
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Re: US to attack Iran « Reply #44 on: September 25, 2006, 10:28 PM »
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But you're just proving what Dentie said - we're all undermined by our lack of ability to see the other side of the story. You can't classify a nation as 'bad'.

Apologies - although I referred to 'America' as bad I actually meant the current administration.
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