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Posted on: July 29, 2013, 05:54 AM
Posted by: gamesmanshiponadal
And. Nadal's arrogant gamesmanship?
Posted on: November 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
Posted by: ProdigyEng
Seems like the phychologist paid off :P
Posted on: July 10, 2012, 10:24 PM
Posted by: kris
Andy can win without any bogus psychology ! He has got the heart and the talent .
Posted on: August 31, 2011, 09:12 AM
Posted by: Quackers
It's dole day, I think I might have a wager on today matches Smile
Posted on: June 28, 2011, 08:46 PM
Posted by: Aileen
From Andy's column,

The mental side of the game is something that I've consciously tried to improve, and it also comes a little easier as you get older. The most important thing is to stay calm when you're in the crunch time of a match and being really tested physically and mentally.

yes
Posted on: June 28, 2011, 02:58 PM
Posted by: Mark
From Andy's column,

The mental side of the game is something that I've consciously tried to improve, and it also comes a little easier as you get older. The most important thing is to stay calm when you're in the crunch time of a match and being really tested physically and mentally.
Posted on: April 15, 2011, 09:08 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
Haha...loved the remarks to Damien!!  I would never go to this person for help, of any kind.

Murray is a great player, you don't get to being #4 in the world without some great play.  Think of the pressure being from the UK and them not having a winner since Fred Perry.  Andy has some chinks in his armour and needs to believe in himself more.  I'm all for him finding someone who can help get better mentally. 

C'mon Andy you can do it!! yay

a true fan!!!

Keep posting Apollo, we need some more 'true fans'!!
Posted on: April 14, 2011, 07:50 PM
Posted by: apollo
Haha...loved the remarks to Damien!!  I would never go to this person for help, of any kind.

Murray is a great player, you don't get to being #4 in the world without some great play.  Think of the pressure being from the UK and them not having a winner since Fred Perry.  Andy has some chinks in his armour and needs to believe in himself more.  I'm all for him finding someone who can help get better mentally.  

C'mon Andy you can do it!! yay

a true fan!!!
Posted on: February 23, 2011, 12:56 PM
Posted by: lashurst
Just cos I suggest something doesn't mean it'll actually happen. Good though I am.
Well, I have always believed everything a fellow Lancastrian (Prestonian) says, of course!  roflmao
Hopefully  you're right and are  in fact not that good  Smile

Time will show, as we all continue to wait for Mr. Murray to reappear on the tennis scene.
Posted on: February 23, 2011, 02:03 AM
Posted by: Aileen
I'd forgotten that from his autobiography Aileen.  Given him being his own man,  I suppose it's possible that the more other people suggest he should see a sports psychologist the more he turns against the idea.  I have to say I was disappointed to read that he'd turned the question back to a Sky interviewer by asking how many sports psychologists had reached a GS final.  Perhaps it was just a way of deflecting a question I can quite understand he'd not want to answer but it could also mean he rather misses the point.  And I guess I thought one thing our friend PT could do would be to spell out the kind of help a sports or behavioural psychologist can provide, without purporting to analyse Andy or anything.
But as you say we have no idea whom he is talking to about what.  I'm hoping he might surprise us by springing a new coach on us (provided it's one we'd approve of!!)
I think you should find a chameleon for your avatar Aileen you change it so often!  I think you were the wise owl when I first joined if I remember correctly?
Yes I was the "wise owl" (maybe!) when you joined.  Have to say I'm not sure I like this one, it's a bit drab and it's a rather drab time of year, so look out for another change!  Anyway variety is the spice of life ... and we certainly get plenty of it as Andy's supporters. Whistle

I just wish people would get off Andy's back about the sports/behavioural psychologist thing now.  The topic has been flogged to death.  It doesn't suprise me that he turned the question back to the Sky interviewer.  Whether he does, or doesn't, speak to a sports psychologist is, quite frankly, nobody else's business, and I think most people would react in the same way.  I've admitted on here to having consulted a behavioural psychologist, but only because of this debate and the anonimity of NW.  It's not something I would want everyone in my life to know about.  Also my gut feeling is that Andy is not missing the point - he's too clever for that - but just prefers to keep his private life under wraps.  I bet Federer, Nadal & Co don't tell their websites everything that they do!

As for a new coach, well I think you hit the nail on the head.  If and when Andy makes an announcement, the coach in question will undoubtedly be scrutinized on this forum - but again, whoever Andy choses it's his decision and his alone.  I think that we all have to accept that HE feels he knows what he is best for him, whereas WE do not, however much some of us may like to think otherwise!

Have to say, though, that I think we'll all be glad when we hear about his departure for the US, and that should, in theory, happen next week ... pray
Posted on: February 22, 2011, 06:46 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Ruthie, for all we know those close to Andy might be telling him the same thing ... but whether he listens or not is another story.  He is, after all, very much his own man, but what I can't understand is that, from his autobiography, he seemed to find his early encounter with a sports psychologist to be a positive thing - so why the apparent reluctance now?  Of course we don't know who he might have been speaking to both re that and a new coach, although his arrangement with Corretja is reportedly to last at least until Wimbledon.



I'd forgotten that from his autobiography Aileen.  Given him being his own man,  I suppose it's possible that the more other people suggest he should see a sports psychologist the more he turns against the idea.  I have to say I was disappointed to read that he'd turned the question back to a Sky interviewer by asking how many sports psychologists had reached a GS final.  Perhaps it was just a way of deflecting a question I can quite understand he'd not want to answer but it could also mean he rather misses the point.  And I guess I thought one thing our friend PT could do would be to spell out the kind of help a sports or behavioural psychologist can provide, without purporting to analyse Andy or anything.
But as you say we have no idea whom he is talking to about what.  I'm hoping he might surprise us by springing a new coach on us (provided it's one we'd approve of!!)
I think you should find a chameleon for your avatar Aileen you change it so often!  I think you were the wise owl when I first joined if I remember correctly?
Whistle
Posted on: February 22, 2011, 07:03 AM
Posted by: Caz
Aileen....love the new avatar......wise old owl.......suits you! hug
Posted on: February 22, 2011, 02:08 AM
Posted by: Aileen
Just been reading this thread having been unable to follow MW for last week or so.  Mea culpa too as I was encouraging PT to contact Andy.  Actually I'd not so much had in mind you sending the column PT, good as it is, but possibly a personal letter - which was why I talked about being suitably respectful.   After I'd sent my previous post I thought I should have said something about an appropriate covering letter if you were sending the column itself.  Anyway that's water under the bridge now.  But my motivation was not to upset Andy obviously, as one of his more positive supporters on this MW, but I genuinely thought he might benefit from some of PT's observations.  And as someone who has benefited from therapy in the past I don't see anything wrong in needing it.  Most people could probably benefit from therapy of some kind or another so it didn't strike me as a negative thing to suggest this for Andy.  But, having read the various criticisms of this idea, I recognise that perhaps I hadn't thought it through sufficiently. I just wish someone close to Andy could provide him with these kinds of insights - and that's where a new coach for whom he has respect might come in.
Ruthie, for all we know those close to Andy might be telling him the same thing ... but whether he listens or not is another story.  He is, after all, very much his own man, but what I can't understand is that, from his autobiography, he seemed to find his early encounter with a sports psychologist to be a positive thing - so why the apparent reluctance now?  Of course we don't know who he might have been speaking to both re that and a new coach, although his arrangement with Corretja is reportedly to last at least until Wimbledon.

Posted on: February 21, 2011, 07:25 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Just been reading this thread having been unable to follow MW for last week or so.  Mea culpa too as I was encouraging PT to contact Andy.  Actually I'd not so much had in mind you sending the column PT, good as it is, but possibly a personal letter - which was why I talked about being suitably respectful.   After I'd sent my previous post I thought I should have said something about an appropriate covering letter if you were sending the column itself.  Anyway that's water under the bridge now.  But my motivation was not to upset Andy obviously, as one of his more positive supporters on this MW, but I genuinely thought he might benefit from some of PT's observations.  And as someone who has benefited from therapy in the past I don't see anything wrong in needing it.  Most people could probably benefit from therapy of some kind or another so it didn't strike me as a negative thing to suggest this for Andy.  But, having read the various criticisms of this idea, I recognise that perhaps I hadn't thought it through sufficiently. I just wish someone close to Andy could provide him with these kinds of insights - and that's where a new coach for whom he has respect might come in.
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 06:32 PM
Posted by: Aileen
No wonder I couldn't work it out! Thanks Aileen:hug:
Forgot to say, always leave a space between the printed text and the smiley!
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 06:06 PM
Posted by: Caz
What? hahaha
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 06:06 PM
Posted by: Caz
No wonder I couldn't work it out! Thanks Aileen:hug:
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 05:45 PM
Posted by: Aileen
I'm sure they'd get on like a house on fire Aileen.........I think she's a wonderful woman. I'm sure they'd do each other a power of good! Think we could arrange it?    Nah! ....only kidding! I wish I knew how to do smileys on quick reply.
You can, once you become familiar with the names of the more popularly used ones.  Go into the main reply box, click on a smiley, see what comes up in your draft post.  You can then type in the name of a smiley, remembering to use the : at either side of the word, and it'll show up as that smiley in your post. Smile
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 05:26 PM
Posted by: Caz
This thread seems to have got a bit off topic - but it occurs to me that, given the amount of ridicule and media-bashing Ms Widdecombe has had to cope with whilst preserving her own beliefs and personal privacy, she would be an ideal person for Andy to talk too.
I'm sure they'd get on like a house on fire Aileen.........I think she's a wonderful woman. I'm sure they'd do each other a power of good! Think we could arrange it?    Nah! ....only kidding! I wish I knew how to do smileys on quick reply.
Posted on: February 19, 2011, 04:55 PM
Posted by: Aileen
This thread seems to have got a bit off topic - but it occurs to me that, given the amount of ridicule and media-bashing Ms Widdecombe has had to cope with whilst preserving her own beliefs and personal privacy, she would be an ideal person for Andy to talk too.