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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #15 on: July 03, 2009, 09:40 PM »
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I agree with you on it being a really tough tournament. I can't wait to see how he reacts in the tournaments leading up to the open, but how much significance they will hold come the tournament itself is up for debate. It's hard courts. I still have to back Andy to reach the final, because he's so damn good, there especially. One could argue that Fed will have 15 slams in the bag by then and not be too concerned with winning, that he will be occupied with being a dad/expecting a baby, that his job for the year is done. That Nadal won't be nearly close to full fitness, that Djoko will still be struggling and that Roddick will be weighed down by the expectation back home after maybe running Federer close. Andy could be buoyed by a first Wimby SF, a career high rank of 2 or 3, a best ever year, etc. Of course it could all be completely the opposite. Fed playing with no pressure and back to his brilliant best, Nadal (as you said) desperate to reassert himself, Roddick back to his best and full confidence and Djokovic playing with less expectation/something to prove. Andy could be weighed down by the growing burdon of not winning a slam. I'm not sure it will be that big of an issue for him. If the situation is the same in 12 months? Definitely. This year I'm not sure? Like I said, the US and Australian are the clutch. I'm really excited and nervous.
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #16 on: July 03, 2009, 09:40 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on July 03, 2009, 09:29 PM
Has today's performance convinced you that this belief is more or less erroneous?

No, it hasn't.

Though todays performance was disappointing, I was pleased with his 12 day performance as a whole.

I agree, that the age thing is being a little tiresome, 22 is not young in tennis terms. However, his body is still to peak, I think he will be playing his best tennis from 2010-2013.

Federer will disappear in less than 24 months time, when the bambino is born, his dedication levels will plummet. As for Nadal, I'm not even sure if his knees will get better, tendonitis doesn't disappear.

Yes, there will be new challengers, but I still believe Murray is good enough to win a GS, and several at that. Players past and present hold the same opinion, you are in the minority Fuzzy.

Andy has only lost 7 times this year now, what do you think of that form?
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #17 on: July 03, 2009, 09:45 PM »
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Quote from: Sir Panda on July 03, 2009, 09:40 PM
No, it hasn't.

Though todays performance was disappointing, I was pleased with his 12 day performance as a whole.

I agree, that the age thing is being a little tiresome, 22 is not young in tennis terms. However, his body is still to peak, I think he will be playing his best tennis from 2010-2013.

Federer will disappear in less than 24 months time, when the bambino is born, his dedication levels will plummet. As for Nadal, I'm not even sure if his knees will get better, tendonitis doesn't disappear.

Yes, there will be new challengers, but I still believe Murray is good enough to win a GS, and several at that. Players past and present hold the same opinion, you are in the minority Fuzzy.

Andy has only lost 7 times this year now, what do you think of that form?

But 3 of those losses have been in slams. It says a lot about your belief in Murray they you are factoring in Federer losing motivation and Nadal remaining below par for Murray to win slams. The fact is Federer mops up slams with so little effort thee days that I think he's going to hang around a long time.
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 10:05 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on July 03, 2009, 09:34 PM
Fair enough.

Did his AO performance convince you that this view in any more erroneous, how about the FO?  Even the slam final he made he disgraced himself with a woeful effort against Federer. He's beaten Federer many times since, but when it really mattered once again he fell to bits. Are you seeing a pattern emerge?

AO = ill
FO = clay
USO = first slam final, played two previous days

I'll give you today, that one was an anomaly, but you're seeing it in black and white.
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #19 on: July 03, 2009, 10:14 PM »
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Quote from: Joe on July 03, 2009, 10:05 PM
AO = ill
FO = clay
USO = first slam final, played two previous days

I'll give you today, that one was an anomaly, but you're seeing it in black and white.

Here are a few suggestions...

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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #20 on: July 03, 2009, 10:24 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on July 03, 2009, 10:14 PM
Here are a few suggestions...

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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #21 on: July 03, 2009, 11:11 PM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on July 03, 2009, 10:14 PM
Mourning the death of Michael Jackson
I'll take that one! roflmao
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #22 on: July 03, 2009, 11:14 PM »
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Oh Fuzzys back!
Man I missed you Very Happy
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #23 on: July 06, 2009, 11:39 PM »
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Honestly I think fuzzyballs has a point on this one.  I always thought that Andy would win the final IF he got there, but figured all it took was for an underdog to give an elevated performance for him to be knocked out before, and nowadays Murray's reputation makes almost all his opponents underdogs.  What's worse is that he got away with it against Wawrinka and still proceeded to let it happen again. 

Indeed, this is far from the first time it's happened to him and I'm certainly more sceptical about his chances coming up to the US Open than I was pre-Wimbledon, where I put him as joint-favourite. 

Still think he'll nab a slam or two eventually though.
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #24 on: July 07, 2009, 12:23 AM »
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Quote from: fuzzyballs on July 03, 2009, 09:32 PM

With Federer back to his best,

Did I miss something, have you been watching a different Federer from me?
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #25 on: July 07, 2009, 01:35 AM »
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Quote from: Sir Panda on July 03, 2009, 09:21 PM
So you think he'll never win a slam?

Fuzz thinks he'll never win a set.
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #26 on: July 07, 2009, 12:32 PM »
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Fuzz has just given it the golden touch. Said Murray would never make top 100/top 50/top 20/top 10/ top 5/win a title/win a masters/win anything/defend and points/return from injury etc etc etc. All presented with good arguments, all wrong! So it looks like Andy's winning US!!!!
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #27 on: July 07, 2009, 12:49 PM »
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Quote from: ljsmall on July 07, 2009, 12:32 PM
Fuzz has just given it the golden touch. Said Murray would never make top 100/top 50/top 20/top 10/ top 5/win a title/win a masters/win anything/defend and points/return from injury etc etc etc. All presented with good arguments, all wrong! So it looks like Andy's winning US!!!!

Watch out for the other Andy !!  Whistle
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #28 on: July 07, 2009, 12:53 PM »
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Yeah, if they meet at flushing meadows oor Andy will anhialate him. Revenge is sweet. Home slam dumping for a home slam dumping!
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Re: Cometh the hour, wilteth the Murray « Reply #29 on: July 07, 2009, 12:56 PM »
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Quote from: ljsmall on July 07, 2009, 12:53 PM
Yeah, if they meet at flushing meadows oor Andy will anhialate him. Revenge is sweet. Home slam dumping for a home slam dumping!

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