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 on: Today at 05:37 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by althusser
? lol ? how is that sexist, i'm calling girls chicks all the time. How is that sexist? come on, i'm not a grandpa, all my friends use that word.   

Aw well, you should have said!!   But why assume a woman converting to Islam does it to get a husband's money? That is a sexist assumption.

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 on: Today at 05:20 PM 
Started by Philip - Last post by amongsttheleaves
Big congrats to Gordon Reid for ending the season as number 1 in the men's wheelchair singles, and to Andy Lapthorne for year end #1 in the men's Quads doubles.

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 on: Today at 05:17 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by althusser
As some of the radicalisation seems to take place in the mosques, they can counter it if it happens in the mosque they attend.
Sure, though worth saying most Muslims in the uk don't frequent mosques

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 on: Today at 04:43 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Iluvandy
Contextually, sure, some may.  But generally I'm not sure my Muslim neighbours can do any more to counter radicalisation than me

As some of the radicalisation seems to take place in the mosques, they can counter it if it happens in the mosque they attend.

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 on: Today at 04:39 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Iluvandy
PPP  @ 3.07

I'm with you on how the people with common sense would behave but  I can think of Christian divisions where common sense flies out of the window.     I can think of a circumstance where one Christian sect helped the authorities to attack another Christian sect and where walls have been built to keep two Christian sects apart.     We are anything but perfect.

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 on: Today at 04:34 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by PompousPitchforkPeasant
'Some Western chick' - and you immediately assume I'm talking of cases of women seeking men's money. That's very clear sexism
? lol ? how is that sexist, i'm calling girls chicks all the time. How is that sexist? come on, i'm not a grandpa, all my friends use that word.   What? I had to find where i was sexist, and since chick was so out of the question that was the only other thing i could come up with lol

Only two? All the Abrahamic holy books are replete with misogny - Bible and Torah too.

That doesn't counter my point that there are very mixed practices within the multiple forms of these religions.
Who said only those two? I chose those stories from Arabian Nights cause they're for youngsters with teaching purpose and they are obviously sexist, i don't have to nitpick like you to find the sexism...... 

And that's what you're doing now, nitpicking and trying to find things in my posts that i didn't say.....


Ok then tell me, and don't evade the question, if muslims are not sexist and if there's so much sexism in the Bible and The Torah how come there are the stonings, beatings, public executions in muslim countries, there are numberless videos of these out there, where all the victims are women and strangely in Christian and Jewish countries these things don't exist? (yeah and don't come up with mexican drug gang killings please thanks in advance) I'm talking about the fact that executing women in muslim countries for cheating and other minor offences is business as usual. How come christians don't do this? How come the only person that i know that married an arab guy got abused by him? is it an accident? Tell me about this? Are these things parts of a conspiracy against muslims?

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 on: Today at 04:17 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by althusser
I didn't say they had more responsibility but they presumably have more influence and more opportunity to use their influence.   

Contextually, sure, some may.  But generally I'm not sure my Muslim neighbours can do any more to counter radicalisation than me

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 on: Today at 03:58 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by althusser


So i read not only the Quran but also the Arabian Nights, and i remember clearly 2 very sexist stories,

Only two? All the Abrahamic holy books are replete with misogny - Bible and Torah too.

That doesn't counter my point that there are very mixed practices within the multiple forms of these religions.

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 on: Today at 03:54 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by althusser
How was my response sexist? Some people can be bought with money, both men and women, what i said wasn't sexist at all.

'Some Western chick' - and you immediately assume I'm talking of cases of women seeking men's money. That's very clear sexism

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 on: Today at 03:07 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by PompousPitchforkPeasant
What a flippant, sexist response. I was speaking of women who believe that typres of Islam afford more respect to women, in contrast to the objectification etc in much Western culture. Of course, there are forms of slam where women ate treated horrendously. But this is back to my first point -there is no one 'Islam' but innumerable beliefs and practices that associate with the term. Often they can contradict one another flatly, as with Christianity too.
How was my response sexist? Some people can be bought with money, both men and women, what i said wasn't sexist at all.

I'll show you real sexism, from Islamic literature and i'll show you these people bring up their children to be sexists from early age.

So i read not only the Quran but also the Arabian Nights, and i remember clearly 2 very sexist stories, i forgot some minor details but those don't influence the storyline or the message.

1. In the first one a rich arab's wife had this daily routine: when hub went to work she started partying , she had a favourite black servant and had orgies with him regularly. One day the guy returned suddenly and saw what was going on. So he got very sad, didn't have appetite. His brother noticed it and asked him what the problem was so his bro suggested a big trip to heal the wounds. While they were walking a Jinn came from somewhere and they climbed on a tree to hide from him. The Jinn had his woman with him, closed in a cage? anyway, he kept her locked away and now he let her out a bit, however he fell asleep. The Jinn's woman noticed the 2 hiding arabs and was so horny she blackmailed them that if they didn't pleasure her she would wake up the Jinn, so they had sex with her. After this incident the brother said to the guy: You see, that Jinn kept her closed from the world and she still cheated him because women are like this. The arab thought about this and cheered up, went home, beheaded both his wife and the black servant and lived happily ever after.

2. A guy got a gift from Allah, he could understand what the animals were saying. And ofc this made him special, and his wife smelled something and started to harass him to tell her what his secret was. However, he got the gift on the condition that if he told anyone he was going to die. He told his wife that but she continued asking him. So the guy went to meditate about it and asked one of the animals? or a sage what to do. And he got told: this is what women are like, he could see she didn't care he would die, she's so corrupt, and advised the man to give her a good beating. And that's what the guy did, gave his wife a good beating and all got fixed. Happy ending.

PPP @ 1.13 p.m.

Not too sure about the peaceful Christians exercising restraint.    I would say it depends on the circumstances.    Or the particular branch of Christianity?    
The Christians I know would have done that, or even people with just a little bit of common sense would have done that no matter what their religion is. Lol if you check out the pictures they got the zorro masks ready, loudspeaker to heat up the party, bandit facehide and let's roll. When do you see christians doing this at borders or anywhere? Especially in a situation like this, when the authorities are just doing their job. Who promised these people they could get inside without documents or examination?

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