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 on: Today at 09:58 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Aileen
What would an acceptable Brexit look like to you, Aileen?

For example, many of the more cretinous members of the Tory party are advocating a hard Brexit. Leaving without a trade deal, and without financial passporting.

This would, needless to say, be utterly catastrophic economically.

Invoking Article 50 without a plan would be very foolish indeed - once it's invoked we literally have no negotiating power.

I still maintain that May has no intention of invoking it, so why should I bother thinking up an 'acceptable' Brexit?

Actually, the whole thing makes me really angry. The only thing stopping us from minimising the damage (eg. an EEA membership) is the retarded demand that we somehow "regain control of our borders". We are literally throwing away the future of the country because idiots are scared of foreigners.
And people like you make me angry because you refuse to recognise the outcome of the referendum.  Also I am not an idiot and nor were my reasons for voting Leave based on fear of foreigners, although I do feel that a good degree of future immigration control is necessary to stop an already over-populated country becoming even more so.

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 on: Today at 09:44 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
Whether Trump believes certain races or groups are inferior, i don't know but i accept it is plausible he does not.
That's all I ask. I just want people to be open to the possibility he isn't racist. I know there isn't enough evidence to prove it but I think there's enough anecdotal evidence to bring doubt to the claim.

He would not be the first politician to play on racism and xenophobia, whilst not subscribing to it privately. But it is no less contemptible for that, since he would know how wrong and dangerous much of the prejudice he panders to actually is.
Yeah, I get that.

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 on: Today at 09:34 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by althusser
It's one particular example and it's pretty obvious as to why I chose it. The fact it happened 16 years ago is irrelevant unless you think people's personalities drastically change at 56 years of age. More recent examples would be Joe Scarborough and Donny Deutsch who are anti-Trumpers and have known him for a couple of decades but insist he isn't racist. Go back a little further back and you then have Larry King depending Trump on this issue.

Trump who has been massively in the public eye of American's was never considered racist until this election.. It's worth remembering that.

But you are missing a key point. Whether Trump believes certain races or groups are inferior, i don't know but i accept it is plausible he does not.

He would not be the first politician to play on racism and xenophobia, whilst not subscribing to it privately. But it is no less contemptible for that, since he would know how wrong and dangerous much of the prejudice he panders to actually is.

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 on: Today at 09:23 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
A black politician praised him 16 years ago - so hey he can't be that racist. Beyond, that a surprising relativism.
It's one particular example and it's pretty obvious as to why I chose it. The fact it happened 16 years ago is irrelevant unless you think people's personalities drastically change at 54 years of age. More recent examples would be Larry King, and then you have Joe Scarborough and Donny Deutsch who have known him for a couple of decades and are utterly anti-Trump but insist he isn't racist.

Trump who has been massively in the public eye of America was never considered racist until this election. It's worth remembering that.

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 on: Today at 09:18 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by althusser


I also doubt Jesse Jackson who considers Trump a friend would go on TV and praise him for helping the African American community if he was in fact a racist.

I don't care if Trump has said things that can be interpreted as racist. I probably say something every day that could be interpreted as racist but what matters is how you actually feel.

You usually come up with something better than this Mark!

A black politician praised him 16 years ago - so hey he can't be that racist. Beyond, that a surprising relativism.

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 on: Today at 09:14 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
Indeed lol

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 on: Today at 09:13 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Joe
Ha ha, I see you must have thought the same, Mark! lol

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 on: Today at 09:13 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Joe
what matters is what is in your heart.

vomit

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 on: Today at 08:56 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
Ha ha -I knew one of you Trump apologists would would crack eventually. This is your 'a few good men' moment. All the denials take their toll eh?
Depends if you think he's racist. The people I've seen on TV who have known Trump for years and are emotionally imploring people not to vote for him often mention one little thing in his defence, he isn't actually racist. 

I also doubt Jesse Jackson who considers Trump a friend would go on TV and praise him for helping the African American community if he was in fact a racist.

I don't care if Trump has said things that can be interpreted as racist. I probably say something every day that could be interpreted as racist but what matters is how you actually feel. I'm convinced that like me Trump is colour blind and not out of decency but instead from simply not giving a ****.

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 on: Today at 08:48 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Aileen
"Washington state attack: Manhunt after Burlington shootings" - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37462235

The latest of many unfortunately, so does either Clinton or Trump have any opinions on this continuing slaughter?

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