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 51 
 on: Today at 10:54 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by boogers
Aye....the only ones who swallowed that are the NO voters and now the rest of us are paying the price! After being told the wonderful promised changes would happen immediately after a 'NO' vote, we're now told nothing will happen until after the 2015 election! Promise number one broken already! TICK

Stop lying.

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A timetable to deliver change was set out by former prime minister - and Scottish MP - Gordon Brown. It was quickly endorsed by the UK-wide parties.

Immediately after the result became clear, Prime Minister David Cameron aimed to show the UK government was grabbing the initiative by announcing Lord Smith of Kelvin, a former BBC governor, to oversee the implementation of more devolution on tax, spending and welfare.

He said draft legislation would be ready by January, as per the timetable laid out by Brown.

 52 
 on: Today at 10:53 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Mark
Anyway the reason I think he was brave Mark was that it seems he wasn't prepared to put his own career over what he believed was right, at least that's how I see it.
I don't feel it has anything to do with doing what is "right" - that makes it sound like he had a moral drive behind his decision. It was a political opinion supporting a side that had plenty of support and attention through a fair public debate.

 53 
 on: Today at 10:53 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Caz
All I can say is that if anyone actually believed his 'promises' then they were seriously deluding themselves.  That and his I love and care for you shite as well!
All I can say is that if anyone actually believed his 'promises' then they were seriously deluding themselves.  That and his I love and care for you shite as well!
Aye....the only ones who swallowed that are the NO voters and now the rest of us are paying the price! After being told the wonderful promised changes would happen immediately after a 'NO' vote, we're now told nothing will happen until after the 2015 election! Promise number one broken already! TICK

 54 
 on: Today at 10:52 AM 
Started by scot-boy - Last post by marathonarthur
I don't think I can even bring myself to read the MO comments.  It all shows how skin deep was the support Andy enjoyed among some of his English fans.   And people don't seem to understand that most of those who supported yes are in no way anti-English even though many may be alienated from the Westminster elite but then so are many English people!   

I stress SOME of his English fans only. True tennis fans will not allow political matters to influence their sport and support of players.

Your last sentence on disenchantment and alienation is very true. I have watched for 50 years the promises of power to be devolved to a local level and seen a total mish-mash of structures set up. Simple solution. Make existing MPs do their work at two levels, national policy related to the country of the constituency that they represent and governance structural matters at the Union level. No need for expensive parallel bodies?

The "West Lothian question" will, in my opinion, be the major topic up to the next election mainly because the coalition has not met its promises (good ones in 2009) to give power to local level not because the Scots said NO. It would have been if you guys had said YES or NO. It also perhaps should be considered as a Cardiff, Belfast or London question as this goes four ways!

 55 
 on: Today at 10:48 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Littlebuddha
Well the vote is over and YES lost. We will wait and see what the extra powers are supposed to be and if they ever come to fruition. As far as I am concerned they should have been known. Cameron ,Milliband and Clegg are going to have problems with their MP's  in getting those new powers through. Don't think that the SNP  will vanish from Scotland they are still the biggest party in the Scottish Parliament the YES camp showed remarkable energy and I hope this will continue to be shown. As for Andy he was very brave to voice his conviction towards the YES vote. To me that was a personal choice and I certainly support him. If there is a backlash I am sure he will cope with it. He is entitled to voice his views. I bet we will get the usual backbiters and their nasty comments but that's not new. The tories want an English Parliament that's for the English to decide, personally I don't really care as it should not affect Scotland. The other thing will be the West Lothian question Scotland sends 40 MP's to Westminster they should only vote on bills that cover the UK as a whole. Then maybe that will shut up all the moaners, also if there is a bill to come out of the EU Scots will be up in arms and it could cause a lot of problems. Good luck Cameron that's if you are still power and have not been stabbed in the back by your fellow MP's. Scotland wants to remain in the EU and that is going to be a big problem for him.

 56 
 on: Today at 10:46 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Aileen
Lies and more lies! Just what we expected after a NO vote!  Business as usual!
All I can say is that if anyone actually believed his 'promises' then they were seriously deluding themselves.  That and his I love and care for you shite as well!

 57 
 on: Today at 10:44 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Sabine
I know you don't Sabine. You don't have a clue!

Exactly. Very Happy

 58 
 on: Today at 10:43 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Sabine
Some people are also upset that he made a battle cry on such a sacrosanct day where campaigns had ended and people had made their decision. He has a lot of followers and he knows that. It's not just an opinion, it's an opinion with influence.

I don't understand. Are you trying to say that he expected to influence his followers or fans to vote differently after his tweet?

 59 
 on: Today at 10:41 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by boogers
Lies and more lies! Just what we expected after a NO vote!  Business as usual!

He didn't say that.

 60 
 on: Today at 10:41 AM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by Caz
As I've said before, I don't have any problem with his opinion. Or even the fact that he stated it publicly. But if he knew this would be the consequence, then I don't see why he should have done it. Especially with what has happened before with the football comment.

Anyway, let's leave it at that. Doesn't change anything if we go on about this. Let's hope the next year is an extremely good one for him. Smile
I know you don't Sabine. You don't have a clue!

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