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 on: Yesterday at 06:49 PM 
Started by althusser - Last post by Aileen
How can Corbyn stay with any support when his MPs voted 172 to 40 against ? If a general election takes place now, Labour will get massacred with internal division.
I can't decide whether Corbyn is just plain stupid or has the hide of a rhinoceros.

As far as the parties go the only one that has any stability and credibility is the SNP, although I could do without their constant protestations of love for the EU in the vain hope that we might be able to continue being part of it while we're still part of the UK,

 52 
 on: Yesterday at 06:33 PM 
Started by althusser - Last post by amongsttheleaves
How can Corbyn stay with any support when his MPs voted 172 to 40 against ? If a general election takes place now, Labour will get massacred with internal division.

He can't. He's lost the support of about 80% of his MPs. He either needs to resign by lunchtime tomorrow or someone in the PLP needs to challenge for leadership. The rot needs to be stopped.

The problems in Labour are greater than Corbyn though. He needs to go from the leadership and go off to do the grassroots work, but needs to play ball with whoever is the next leader. Not sure he can do that.

Andy Burnham needs to do what he was thinking of doing and go and run for Mayor of Manchester because someone in the party needs to reconnect with the North, but from outwith Westminster.

From within the PLP they need someone who can stop the rot and unite the party. Ideally that needs to come from the soft left middle of the party. Whether that person is there for the long term to stand for PM in a GE I don't know. There are people who could unite the party but probably won't been keen on running for PM.

 53 
 on: Yesterday at 06:19 PM 
Started by althusser - Last post by Philip
How can Corbyn stay with any support when his MPs voted 172 to 40 against ? If a general election takes place now, Labour will get massacred with internal division.


 54 
 on: Yesterday at 05:44 PM 
Started by Matthew2408 - Last post by laundry
Simon
Ferrer
Herbert
Dolgo
Sock
Chardy
Istomin
Cilic

 55 
 on: Yesterday at 05:11 PM 
Started by amongsttheleaves - Last post by ABF
Decent performance from Andy for the 1st round. Some mistakes when he was coasting but overall I thought his shot selection was actually better than at queens....marginally short and long on occasion let the game seem closer than it really was.

Liam played pretty well.... above his ranking anyway. Seems like a decent lad too.

 56 
 on: Yesterday at 04:54 PM 
Started by Matthew2408 - Last post by Matthew2408
Simon
Ferrer
Herbert
Evans
Sock
Johnson
Istomin
Cilic

 57 
 on: Yesterday at 04:53 PM 
Started by Matthew2408 - Last post by Matthew2408
Pick the 8 winners:

Grigor Dimitrov (20 Pts) vs Gilles Simon (20 Pts)
Nicolas Mahut (24 Pts) vs David Ferrer (17 Pts)
Pierre-Hugues Herbert (13 Pts) vs Damir Dzumhur (43 Pts)
Daniel Evans (34 Pts) vs Alexandr Dolgopolov (14 Pts)
Jack Sock (13 Pts) vs Robin Haase (46 Pts)
Jeremy Chardy (27 Pts) vs Steve Johnson (16 Pts)
Nicolas Almagro (33 Pts) vs Denis Istomin (14 Pts)
Marin Cilic (12 Pts) vs Sergiy Stakhovsky (50 Pts)

Deadline is 11:30 UK time.

 58 
 on: Yesterday at 04:51 PM 
Started by Aileen - Last post by blueberryhill
Inverfail with a spectacularly awful interview with Nick K yuk

 59 
 on: Yesterday at 04:41 PM 
Started by amongsttheleaves - Last post by Aileen
I'm glad that the match got finished before the rain started.   Roof being closed now.

 60 
 on: Yesterday at 04:38 PM 
Started by althusser - Last post by amongsttheleaves
Stephen Crabb has declared he'll run for Tory leadership. Likely ally in Sajid Javid.

While I've been typing that the vote of no confidence against Corbyn has paassed 172 to 40 with 4 abstentions.

Shouts of 'Blairite Coup' increase, but given that so many of the Blairites already got purged the 176 can't all be Blairites, plenty of them are from the soft left and there are senior figures from soft left to provide someone for them to rally behind.

Meanwhile, seems Diane Abbott already got shifted out of Shadow foreign secretary and into Shadow health secretary.

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