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 on: April 29, 2016, 09:08 PM 
Started by Allan - Last post by Tamaragl
Heather and Naomi Broady both won in the first qualifying round in Madrid! Naomi beat Océane Dodin, 6-2, 6-4, and impressively, Heather managed to outlast Lucie Hradecka in two tiebreak sets.

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 on: April 29, 2016, 09:05 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Aileen
I love this. Out of interest I am meeting more people committed to vote leave now than those who want to stay.  An age related thing perhaps?
Same here MA, but as far as the age-related thing goes, I think you'll find this article, and the polls in it, in The Guardian of 2 April interesting: "Poll shows young voters could hold key in June vote" - http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/02/eu-referendum-young-voters-brexit-leave

Basically, yes they could hold the key by voting Remain, but how many of them will actually go to the polling booths to do so?

There's a parallel here with the IndyRef when a big fuss was made of 16-18 year olds being given the vote, and many of them did express quite strong opinions, particularly when it came to voting Yes, but I understand that come the day of the referendum very few of them actually turned up to vote, which doesn't surprise me given what was at stake here.  Yes, I know they can get married, join the army, etc, and I have no objection to them voting in parliamentary elections, which they can do in the Holyrood elections, but not on issues where the outcome could well be irrevocable, so in that respect I think Cameron was right to exclude them from voting in this referendum.  However, I think Westminster should reconsider their stance which is to exclude them from voting in General and Council elections.

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 on: April 29, 2016, 07:42 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by marathonarthur

I love this. Out of interest I am meeting more people committed to vote leave now than those who want to stay.  An age related thing perhaps?

Justice means different things in different cultures but in this case only prosecution and punishment can deliver fair play, equity etc,

There's a difference. Justice is just treatment. I see little gain for the relatives in the punishment bit.

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 on: April 29, 2016, 07:38 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by boogers

The bulk of the polls suggest that Remain is still a fair bit in the lead, and most movement since Obama's intervention has been well within the margin of error.

Interestingly the perceived economic risk associated with leaving has increased a great deal which may well start to turn into more movement towards Remain in the next few weeks.

This is, obviously, why the Leave campaign has been desperately trying to turn the debate back towards immigration.

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 on: April 29, 2016, 07:36 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by boogers
This is really off topic.    Justice means different things in different cultures but in this case only prosecution and punishment can deliver fair play, equity etc,

Justice should be about rehabilitation.

 76 
 on: April 29, 2016, 07:31 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Aileen
Article in yesterday's International Business Times -

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eu-referendum-barack-obamas-brexit-plea-failed-leave-takes-opinion-poll-lead-1557185

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 on: April 29, 2016, 07:24 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by Iluvandy
This is really off topic.    Justice means different things in different cultures but in this case only prosecution and punishment can deliver fair play, equity etc,

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 on: April 29, 2016, 06:56 PM 
Started by laundry - Last post by Aileen
 
Yes.   I didn't know it was a word until a few weeks ago when I came across it in a crossword!!!
I even checked it in the dictionary.   New word?
I'd never heard it before either, but found it through scrabble word-finder, and it is a recognised word because I then googled it and found it in at least three dictionaries, including dictionary.com.



R_ _ TA_G_E

 79 
 on: April 29, 2016, 06:28 PM 
Started by Caz - Last post by marathonarthur
Caz, if our justice system is so superior why did it take the Hillsborough families 27 years of fighting the establishment to get to the truth?   The justice is still to come.

Just an observation.   Justice is not really what is left.  Justice is something akin to fair play, equity, objectivity and honesty related to morality and principle rather than any criminal process. What is left now is prosecution and punishment which is very different. However I do understand your point that the process to your mind is still unfinished! 

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 on: April 29, 2016, 06:26 PM 
Started by laundry - Last post by Iluvandy
 
GRUNTLED ?

Yes.   I didn't know it was a word until a few weeks ago when I came across it in a crossword!!!
I even checked it in the dictionary.   New word?

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