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 on: Yesterday at 12:42 PM 
Started by Masaka - Last post by dave_ladder
The idea that Scotland and England stand as equal partners is ridiculous. It may be that in 1707 this was the notion but it has never been the case. When a much larger Nation is joined to a much smaller one, they are never equal. In the UK; money, jobs, industry and power have been increasingly concentrated in the South East for many years, only now are we hearing discussion of allowing some of these powers to be spread across the regions of England. As an example, in London they are presently building a cross London rail system at a cost of 15 billion pounds, in Scotland we can't even get a Glasgow airport link at 200 million pounds. Capital spending is not part of the money given to the Scottish Government, we get what Westminster decides to give us which is next to nothing.

I try not to argue about this subject too much on here, but I'll admit I get a little angry reading things like this. You've said that jobs are increasingly concentrated in the South-East, for instance, but Scotland has a lower unemployment rate than the rest of the UK. In fact, Scotland has one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe.

That's the problem I have with these arguments - it's the politics of grievance and the facts of the matter seem to get overlooked in favour of emotional appeals about London stealing all our resources and whatever else. We regularly hear about us generating more tax revenue than we receive in spending (complete with emotive examples such as Crossrail), but the Scottish Government's own figures had us generating 9.1% of UK taxation revenue last year and receiving 9.3% of UK spending. Of course that varies year on year, but it's pretty difficult to take that argument seriously going forward when the very last year had us in a surplus (and oil revenues are on a downward trend by anyone's estimate so that's hardly going to move in the opposite direction long-term).

I voted No, but I don't have anything against practical arguments for independence. It's an open debate - some people think we should go our own way, some people think we're better off in the UK. That's completely fine as a practical argument, but I have a real problem with the kind of divisive blame politics that we keep hearing about - arguments where we pretend we're some downtrodden minority being exploited by our bigger neighbour, our resources are being siphoned off, and Westminster/London are essentially the root cause of every ill in society.

That's not a practical argument, it's just nationalist scapegoating and I think we'd all benefit (independent or not) from putting that kind of populism to one side and just judging things on a level headed, rational basis. You'll find people in Scotland agree on a lot more than they disagree on if we just get round a table and start talking about the details of devolution.

 on: Yesterday at 10:59 AM 
Started by Elly - Last post by ChrisMac
Love Is All Around...Wet Wet Wet

 on: Yesterday at 10:58 AM 
Started by MurrayRocks!! - Last post by ChrisMac
Fats Domino

 on: Yesterday at 10:57 AM 
Started by Shooting Star - Last post by ChrisMac
Feliciano Lopez

 on: Yesterday at 10:56 AM 
Started by Mark - Last post by ChrisMac

 on: Yesterday at 10:56 AM 
Started by rafa - Last post by ChrisMac

 on: Yesterday at 10:01 AM 
Started by Connor - Last post by Fiverings
   I'm more concerned about the sports-science criminals among the elite, to be honest. The top guys ain't going to throw a game for anyone.

 on: Yesterday at 09:43 AM 
Started by ProdigyEng - Last post by merlynne
Wonderful news  . Congratulations

 on: Yesterday at 08:58 AM 
Started by ProdigyEng - Last post by angiebabez
Apparantly this is Kims ring

 on: Yesterday at 07:27 AM 
Started by Connor - Last post by blueberryhill

Supporting what Grab's been saying for yoinks.

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