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 on: Yesterday at 03:07 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by amongsttheleaves
Thought this was an interesting read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trumps-abdication-of-personal-responsibility/501893/

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 on: Yesterday at 03:01 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Joe
I don't think he is.

Clinton's opposition isn't Trump, it is a movement that has people in favour of it for all sorts of different reasons with no place in identity politics. The fact it's not actually about Trump is why he is constantly forgiven for so much nonsense. Much of the movement is admittedly just emotion but that's what elections are often about. The side that has the emotion gets the turnout and we know what that usually means.
I pretty much agree with you on that - it is the most significant movement in US politics for 30 years imo

A fascinating point - but what is this movement called? It's surely not the Tea Party anymore, is it?

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 on: Yesterday at 02:06 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by althusser
I don't think he is.

Clinton's opposition isn't Trump, it is a movement that has people in favour of it for all sorts of different reasons with no place in identity politics. The fact it's not actually about Trump is why he is forgiven for so much.  Much of the movement is admittedly just emotion but that's what elections are often about. The side that has the emotion gets the turnout and we know what that usually means.

I pretty much agree with you on that - it is the most significant movement in US politics for 30 years imo

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 on: Yesterday at 01:46 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
but anyone who thinks that Trump is more fit for or deserving of the office than Clinton
I don't think he is.

Clinton's opposition isn't Trump, it is a movement that has people in favour of it for all sorts of different reasons with no place in identity politics. The fact it's not actually about Trump is why he is constantly forgiven for so much nonsense. Much of the movement is admittedly just emotion but that's what elections are often about. The side that has the emotion gets the turnout and we know what that usually means.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:41 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Joe
Truth be told, Trump is crazy, sexist and racist. I don't think those things should be ignored or denied.

I just found the slightly barbed "he likes to sponsor these things and hang around women" line a bit funny, and maybe not best advised.

It was a bit 'unpresidential', but pales in comparison to Trump's long list of disgusting remarks.

I wish they'd just hold the election tomorrow, I can't stand another month or so of this crap. Trumpkins will vote for Trump no matter what.

The choice is clearly between two candidates who are flawed - but anyone who thinks that Trump is more fit for or deserving of the office than Clinton needs their intelligence/critical thinking checked. AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU HERE, MARK. lol

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 on: Yesterday at 01:41 PM 
Started by amongsttheleaves - Last post by iamabritt
Jo did really well.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:38 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by strider
Truth be told, Trump is crazy, sexist and racist. I don't think those things should be ignored or denied.

I just found the slightly barbed "he likes to sponsor these things and hang around women" line a bit funny, and maybe not best advised.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:10 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by Mark
Yeah, I thought it was fine for Trump to point out how he could have indeed gone down that road but didn't. In the debate Hillary called him crazy, sexist and racist while Trump called her Secretary Clinton.

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 on: Yesterday at 01:02 PM 
Started by boogers - Last post by strider
No one else find it funny that Clinton dropped a little aspersion on Trump's character for "hanging around women at beauty pageants"?

The wife of Bill Clinton having a go at a man for that?

Not sure she wants to go down that road! Very Happy

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 on: Yesterday at 12:53 PM 
Started by amongsttheleaves - Last post by Tamaragl
Glad Jo beat Carla! I watched the replay of her match against Zhang and she looked pretty solid although she did wobble on her serve when ahead 4-2 in the second set and let Zhang get back on serve. But then she just broke her again, so it didn't matter.

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