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Andy Murray vs Fabio Fognini, Thursday, Estimated time - 1:45pm BST - Discuss the match
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 on: Yesterday at 04:34 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by TheMadHatter
What with Nishikori's withdrawal, Berdych's upset and Murray and Ferrer being the top two seeds left in the draw, it really puts the pressure right back on the first two who seemed all but safe before today.

Murray needs to make the win the tournament to surpass Berdych in the race, as I make it he'll only make up 210 points if he makes the final (300 - 90 for Rotterdam), leaving him 10 behind.

Ferrer will jump above Murray if he wins the tournament, even if Andy makes the final.

Big week this. Raonic could make big ground if he makes the final in Basel (Young, Goffin and a seemingly slightly-more-in-shape Nadal stand in his way), whilst Dimitrov will probably have to beat Federer in the QFs to make significant gains.

It's much more open in Valencia, so Murray really needs to be winning the whole thing - this would not only prevent Ferrer from making big gains and leaping him, but also propel himself away from the other contenders. If he doesn't, we can only hope Ferrer doesn't win the whole thing.

As it stands (points in brackets is how many they will have if they beat respective opponent):

5 Nishikori 4265 - WITHDREW
6 Cilic 4150 - Qualified
7 Berdych 4105 - OUT
8 Murray 3885 - Valencia R2 - route is Fognini (3885) - Anderson (3975) - Ferrer (4095) - Lopez/Dolgopolov/Robredo (4295)
9 Raonic 3795 - Basel R2 - route is Young (3840) - Goffin (3930) - Nadal (4050) - Federer (4250)
10 Ferrer 3775 - Valencia R2 - route is Verdasco (3775) - Bautista/Bellucci (3865) - Murray (3985) - Lopez/Dolgopolov/Robredo (4185)
11 Dimitrov 3555 - Basel R1 - route is Zverev (3555) - Pospisil (3555) - Federer (3645) - Karlovic (3765) - Nadal/Raonic (3965)

 82 
 on: Yesterday at 04:26 PM 
Started by Katie - Last post by counter_ puncher
I am on holidays until tomorrow (very welcome after Sunday's final). As soon as I returned to the hotel after a long walk on the beach, I checked today's result. The scoreline suggests a straightforward win, the match report gives me an idea of the ups and downs. Thanks for that. I really hope Andy has settled so that he has a decent chance against Fognini.Every round counts.

 83 
 on: Yesterday at 04:26 PM 
Started by Aileen - Last post by The Gnome
Well that certainly wasn't one for the tennis purists. In fact, if I wasn't so heavily invested in the outcome, i would have switched that off in disgust.

Still, a win is a win i suppose.

 84 
 on: Yesterday at 04:22 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by marathonarthur
And it all just gradually vanished as Ferrer upped his game to take the set 7-5. Frown

SAD but expected?

 85 
 on: Yesterday at 04:07 PM 
Started by Katie - Last post by Thevalley
Great report and great win for Andy - just wish he could get his serve together - he needs that to beat the top guys.  I wonder if there are any stats for top players losing their first service game after winning a set - I am sure Andy must be near the top.

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 on: Yesterday at 04:07 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by Aileen
now 5 - 2 to Seppi Smile
And it all just gradually vanished as Ferrer upped his game to take the set 7-5. Frown

 87 
 on: Yesterday at 03:56 PM 
Started by Aileen - Last post by nikko
Maybe it's just a lost cause?  Not that I ever got anywhere near Andy's level in tennis, but my serve was a bit like his - 1st one erratic, 2nd one weak!  Yet I worked on it a lot but it didn't make much difference.  Andy may be a pro, but my feeling is that after all these years, if it hasn't kicked in by now, then it probably never will.  Fortunately he has the game to dig himself out of trouble, but it's often trouble he could have avoided had his serve been up to scratch - and I still get the shivvers when I think about these 3 CPs on his serve in the Wimbledon final that he couldn't capitalise on!

I follow a lot of tennis so  I understand the game but don't play it. So, what's the real point about the 1st and 2nd serve ?

Some players who have a good 2nd seem to behave like "2nd serve ! *boom* yeah of course it's in".
Andy is sometimes more like "2nd serve... (grumble)... pop... ooooohh nooooo a doub.... whew it's in..."

What I mean by that is, is it essentialy a technical problem or more mental ?

 88 
 on: Yesterday at 03:44 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by lashurst
Ferrer a set up but a break down in the second. Dare we hope?
now 5 - 2 to Seppi Smile

 89 
 on: Yesterday at 03:36 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by Aileen
Andy has to reach the Semis to get 90 pts in order to keep ahead of the pack-of-dogs.
In theory he should be able to do it, but the inconsistencies in his game continue to be a concern unless Amelie can somehow manage to press the magic button.

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 on: Yesterday at 03:29 PM 
Started by angiebabez - Last post by marathonarthur
Ferrer a set up but a break down in the second. Dare we hope?

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