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Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « on: February 13, 2011, 02:17 AM »
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Andy and Jamie Murray failed to make it to the finals of the World Tennis Tournament doubles after losing 4-6 4-6 to Jurgen Melzer and Philipp Petzschner in their semi-final encounter.

Breaks were exchanged in the opening set before Melzer and Petzschner broke decisively in the seventh game. The second seeds then broke again at the same stage in the second set to take the win.

Jamie will now gain 180 points in the doubles rankings.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 06:11 AM »
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I 'watched' this match on livescore.

Pity that they didn't make it to the final but I hope that it's been enjoyable for them both and Jamie has the added bonus of gaining some ranking points too.

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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 08:48 AM »
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Andy wanted to help Jamie gain some points and thats been achieved. Im sure they would have liked to have gone on to the final but they have played some good tennis and enjoyed themselves. There is always next time - good luck to them both.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 09:40 AM »
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Just looked at the report on the Beeb.

I'm so disappointed for them, but given their opponents, it sounds like they made a pretty good fist of it.  I understand Jamie has now made the top 50, so that at least is an achievement.

As for Andy, I hope he'll have taken some positivity from the experience and the pleasure he so obviously had in playing with his brother and helping him to move up the rankings.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 10:46 AM »
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As stated earlier, playing doubles with his brother and enjoying tennis was Andy's goal - well done murrays.........job done, being a brother and working for the family is sometimes far more important
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 11:22 AM »
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As stated earlier, playing doubles with his brother and enjoying tennis was Andy's goal - well done murrays.........job done, being a brother and working for the family is sometimes far more important

Which is were Andy's feelings are - namely family and friends FIRST. Good on you Murrays
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 06:38 PM »
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Jamie will now gain 180 points in the doubles rankings.

How do doubles ranking points work?  I was under the impression the ranking points were for teams rather than individuals so I'm confused now.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 01:09 AM »
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How do doubles ranking points work?  I was under the impression the ranking points were for teams rather than individuals so I'm confused now.
This might help.  It's taken from the ATP website's Rankings' section - Frequently asked Questions:

Q. How does the ATP Doubles Rankings work?

A. The ATP Doubles Ranking is based on calculating, for each player, his total points from his best 18 results from all eligible tournaments, including the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals (Doubles) played in the 52-week ranking period. For entry purposes there are no mandatory events, however, once a player is accepted in the main draw of one of these 12 tournaments, as a direct acceptance,a qualifier or a lucky loser or having accepted a wild card, his result in this tournament shall count for his ranking, whether or not he participates.

Q. How does the ATP Doubles Team Rankings work?

A. Each team is ranked according to its total points from its best 18 results from all eligible tournaments (Grand Slam, ATP World Tour, including the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals) played in the calendar year. Loser points for the rounds achieved are awarded to players in any tournament not completed. The ATP Doubles Team Rankings are used to determine the year-end World No. 1 team and which eight teams qualify for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.



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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 04:51 PM »
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This might help.

 confused  Sorry to be so thick.  It doesn't explain how Jamie can play with Andy one day and someone else the next.  Do they add the two players ranking points together to get an average or something?
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 09:58 PM »
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confused  Sorry to be so thick.  It doesn't explain how Jamie can play with Andy one day and someone else the next.  Do they add the two players ranking points together to get an average or something?
Glad somebody else couldn't make sense of it! Smile  The whole ranking system is a bit of a mystery to me anyway, and I'm so glad the ATP/WTA have stopped the Champions Race in addition to the rankings' system, because that confused me even further.

As far as I can make out, team rankings are only based on the performances of that particular team ... but ... oh heck - I give up!! lol

If anyone else can contribute a clearer explanation, feel free!
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 10:35 PM »
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For the doubles rankings each player earns the points from each tournament eg. for Rotterdam Andy would get 180 and Jamie would also get 180.

The teams rankings decided which teams go to the WTF at the end of the year and is based on the points earned when each pairing plays together. This year so far Jamie's at 65 with Santiago Gonzalez; 58 with Malisse ; 42 with Peya and 23 with Andy
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 11:27 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification, Allan. Smile
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 07:30 PM »
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I see that Andy has withdrawn from Dubai, due to an injured wrist.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #13 on: February 15, 2011, 07:31 PM »
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Which wrist?
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #14 on: February 15, 2011, 07:35 PM »
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Which wrist?
It doesn't state which wrist, but he was rubbing his right wrist during the last match with Baggy. . He apologies to his fans and the tournament arrangers.

Poor Andy. Get well soon. Not a bad idea to have a good break perhaps either.
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