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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #15 on: February 15, 2011, 07:38 PM »
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It doesn't state which wrist, but he was rubbing his right wrist during the last match with Baggy. . He apologies to his fans and the tournament arrangers.

Poor Andy. Get well soon. Not a bad idea to have a good break perhaps either.

That's very sad.  The right wrist is the one that came to grief earlier in his career while he was with BG.  Let's hope it's nothing serious and that he doesn't end up having to have surgery like del Potro, Agassi et al - several months out of the game, if it required surgery.  Delpo has been out of it for the better part of 12 months.  Long way back.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #16 on: February 15, 2011, 07:45 PM »
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Hope it is nothing serious and he comes back all guns blazing.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #17 on: February 15, 2011, 08:01 PM »
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His wrists are like Nadal's knees, a walking excuse whenever he wants to use it as far as injury withdrawals are concerned.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 08:13 PM »
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His wrists are like Nadal's knees, a walking excuse whenever he wants to use it as far as injury withdrawals are concerned.
How dare you infer that Nadal and Andy pretend injury.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 08:17 PM »
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How dare you infer that Nadal and Andy pretend injury.

The point is they play injured constantly...
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #20 on: February 15, 2011, 11:52 PM »
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I see that Andy has withdrawn from Dubai, due to an injured wrist.
 Aileen has a crystal ball!!
I'm not with you here ... although I did have the feeling that opening a thread on Dubai was a bit prematue.

His wrists are like Nadal's knees, a walking excuse whenever he wants to use it as far as injury withdrawals are concerned.
With fans like you, who needs enemies?
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #21 on: February 16, 2011, 01:29 AM »
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His wrists are like Nadal's knees, a walking excuse whenever he wants to use it as far as injury withdrawals are concerned.
I'd like to think that it is genuine but ............hell knows. There never used to be all these injuries years ago. Have tennis players become too fit, too finely tuned so that the slightest twinge becomes a problem? Or do they just play when they feel like it and to hell with the fans,organisers etc? I don't like when Andy pulls out of anything. It's bad manners. Apart from anything I think he needs match practice to sort out his game.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #22 on: February 16, 2011, 02:03 AM »
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I'd like to think that it is genuine but ............hell knows. There never used to be all these injuries years ago. Have tennis players become too fit, too finely tuned so that the slightest twinge becomes a problem? Or do they just play when they feel like it and to hell with the fans,organisers etc? I don't like when Andy pulls out of anything. It's bad manners. Apart from anything I think he needs match practice to sort out his game.
I'm sorry, but so-called fans like you make me very angry.  I take it you'd be perfectly happy for Andy to risk aggravating injuries and thereby possibly shortening his career?  Look at Nadal - carried on playing when his knees were giving him hell.  The consultant who treated him gives him another two years at most before his knees pack in completely, unless he radically cuts down his playing schedule.

The reason there never used to be so many injuries years ago was because the ATP tour schedule consisted of fewer tournaments and was therefore less demanding.  Also tennis has become almost an all-year-round sport.  Thankfully from 2012 the off-season will be extended from 4 to 7 weeks so that players can get more of a break.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #23 on: February 16, 2011, 07:11 AM »
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I'd like to think that it is genuine but ............hell knows. There never used to be all these injuries years ago.

They were just as injured years ago. Only back then they didn't earn enough from just playing Slams, they actually gave a crap about the rest of the tour and the Tennis media hadn't glorified Slams to the point they could justify sucking in small tournaments.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #24 on: February 16, 2011, 07:15 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification, Allan. Smile

Yes, I get it now.  Thanks, Allan.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #25 on: February 16, 2011, 08:18 PM »
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I'm not with you here ... although I did have the feeling that opening a thread on Dubai was a bit premature. A pity Andy felt obliged to play in this tournament.  The result won't do him any good psychologically.
 

Aileen, on the 9th Feb. after Murray vs Baghdatis, you said "I foresee a withdrawal from Dubai coming up, if not for a longer term.".  
There, you see, you are clarvoyant!  I hope it's not for too long though.
Best wishes to our Andy, he must need a good rest wub
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #26 on: February 16, 2011, 11:19 PM »
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I'm sorry, but so-called fans like you make me very angry.  I take it you'd be perfectly happy for Andy to risk aggravating injuries and thereby possibly shortening his career?  Look at Nadal - carried on playing when his knees were giving him hell.  The consultant who treated him gives him another two years at most before his knees pack in completely, unless he radically cuts down his playing schedule.

The reason there never used to be so many injuries years ago was because the ATP tour schedule consisted of fewer tournaments and was therefore less demanding.  Also tennis has become almost an all-year-round sport.  Thankfully from 2012 the off-season will be extended from 4 to 7 weeks so that players can get more of a break.

I don't think that's fair. I'm not a so called fan. I am probably one of his greatest fans and have always supported Andy right from the start. I am ecstatic when he wins and miserable when he loses. I have regular fights with the many people who can't stand him and I sit up all night to watch if I have to. However I don't actually know the man personally and can only go on what I see and hear. I didnt see the Rotterdam match but the comments on this website were universally condemnatory of his attitude and suggested he didn't try. Seemingy even his opponent said that. That isn't the Andy Murray I know and for the first time started me wondering about whether he has changed a little. Then when he pulled out of Dubai and the David Cup I was disappointed. Nobody should fake injury however amazing they are. Thats all I said and I should be allowed to express a view without getting the ultimate insult on MW - a"so called fan" - totally in the huff now!
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #27 on: February 17, 2011, 10:19 AM »
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Aileen, on the 9th Feb. after Murray vs Baghdatis, you said "I foresee a withdrawal from Dubai coming up, if not for a longer term.". 
There, you see, you are clarvoyant!  I hope it's not for too long though.
Best wishes to our Andy, he must need a good rest wub
Your memory's better than mine - but maybe I should keep quiet in future!

I don't think that's fair. I'm not a so called fan. I am probably one of his greatest fans and have always supported Andy right from the start. I am ecstatic when he wins and miserable when he loses. I have regular fights with the many people who can't stand him and I sit up all night to watch if I have to. However I don't actually know the man personally and can only go on what I see and hear. I didnt see the Rotterdam match but the comments on this website were universally condemnatory of his attitude and suggested he didn't try. Seemingy even his opponent said that. That isn't the Andy Murray I know and for the first time started me wondering about whether he has changed a little. Then when he pulled out of Dubai and the David Cup I was disappointed. Nobody should fake injury however amazing they are. Thats all I said and I should be allowed to express a view without getting the ultimate insult on MW - a"so called fan" - totally in the huff now!
MT - I'm very sorry for upsetting you, but it was just such a bald statement that it got me a bit ruffled because it just seemed like yet more of the baseless negativity which is so often spouted on MW, in this case people who didn't see the match but who seemed to be content to believe the views of others and profer their opinions accordingly, so please accept my apologies.

Now that you've clarified the situation I can see exactly where you're coming from.  I didn't watch the match because I had an instinctive feeling it would be a disaster coming as soon as it did after the AO, so I'm in no position to comment as to whether his performance was, as I had expected it might be, just plain bad due to lack of preparation/jetlag/tiredness, or whether he indeed didn't try because ultimately he was in Rotterdam to play doubles with Jamie.  I guess you hit the same raw nerve with me as I hit with you because I too wasn't entirely happy about his attitude following his AO defeat.  After last year's prolonged slump, is it a case of "here we go again"?  I liked to think that he had got mentally stronger after that experience, but now I'm not so sure, and that is a very unhappy situation for himself and his fans.

Quite frankly I'd have felt at lot happier if he had just said after the AO that he was pulling out of both Rottterdam and Dubai in order to have a break, and I'm sure Jamie would have agreed with him, instead of stringing everyone along, if indeed that's what he's been doing - and I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt because a possible injury problem was referred to in his post-match singles' interview, and also after the SF he seemed to be genuine about playing in Dubai.  I'm not naive by any means but I do not believe that Andy has resorted to telling blatant lies.
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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #28 on: February 17, 2011, 10:16 PM »
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Thanks Aileen. I'm completely dehuffed now

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Re: Andy and Jamie defeated in Rotterdam « Reply #29 on: February 17, 2011, 11:53 PM »
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Thanks Aileen. I'm completely dehuffed now

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I'm glad to hear that, because I don't like falling out with people.  Life's too short! Smile
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