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Ruthie
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2012, 10:23 PM »
Nice positive posting Philip. I hope you're right. My only one doubt is the one Petch expressed ie the lack of hard court match practice. Still that proved not to be a problem at Wimbledon where we all had exactly the same fears.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2012, 10:25 PM »
Quote from: Philip on August 16, 2012, 10:19 PM
I personally think this is a blessing in disguise.
Imagine if Andy had won and gone on to beat Delpo, Nole and Fed, he would be knackered comes Sunday and then flying to New York will leave insufficient time to be fully prepared for the USO.
This way Andy gets a chance to reach NY by Friday/Saturday, spend a couple of days / a week working on various strokes (FHs, serve, ...) and time to relax and unwind and savour the Olympic Gold & Silver achievements, and be fresh and fully ready for the USO. The poor guy hasn't had time to even put the medals in his trophy cabinet for God's sake and lack of sleep must be catching up. His head is probably still buzzing from the olympic matches and from team GB performance.
Thank you Philip for these sensible comments.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2012, 10:26 PM »
Quote from: Tessie on August 16, 2012, 09:30 PM
Think something wasnt right and this isnt based on watching Andy but the reaction of his team. Normally they will yell, jump up and down right to the last point. They showed several shots of them during that last set and at no point were they doing that, they looked resigned to a loss. What did they know?
I've just watched the match back on fast forward , and your right, how astute and I agree with Ruthie he would never say if he was feeling unwell, but a huge difference today from yesterday.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2012, 10:29 PM »
Quote from: Philip on August 16, 2012, 10:19 PM
I personally think this is a blessing in disguise.
Imagine if Andy had won and gone on to beat Delpo, Nole and Fed, he would be knackered comes Sunday and then flying to New York will leave insufficient time to be fully prepared for the USO.
This way Andy gets a chance to reach NY by Friday/Saturday, spend a couple of days / a week working on various strokes (FHs, serve, ...) and time to relax and unwind and savour the Olympic Gold & Silver monumental achievements, and be fresh and fully ready for the USO. The poor guy hasn't had time to even put the medals in his trophy cabinet for God's sake and lack of sleep must be catching up. His head is probably still buzzing from the olympic matches and from team GB performance.
Based on what I saw at the Olympic SF & Final, I firmly believe that this website Gold medal will be adorned with a GS trophy within the next 12 months, possibly even at this USO.
Totally agree, have a good feeling about the USO .
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2012, 10:55 PM »
He lost a match today - it really is not the end of the world. Let's not forget that Lendl is still very much a work in progress. It has not suddenly stopped because he has got a gold medal. I am not totally convinced of the US Open this year. However I remain convinced that he will get his Grand Slam. I think after the last couple of months he is physically and mentally exhausted. Let's not read too much doom and gloom into this. Quite honestly if he didn't win anything else ever again, which is not going to happen, the joy of the Olympics would be more than adequate repayment for supporting him. Perhaps he needs time to retreat, retrench and rearm.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2012, 10:56 PM »
I agree with most of the comments posted, I think it is coming down from the high of the Olympics together with getting used to the heat and different playing surface has taken its toll. We don't know what is going on in Andy's private life which would affect him if there were problems. I agree with Philip, why knock himself out playing Delpo, Djokovic, etc. and risk injury and not competing in the US Open, perhaps that had a psychological impact, who knows. I am sure that Andy is focused on the US Open and will want to get to NY as soon as he can and meet up with Ivan Lendl to discuss the Open, I very much doubt the Cincy match will be high on the agenda. I would be interested to hear if Lendl would have stuck to the schedule Andy had and noticed that he is now in charge of Andy's schedule for the future, does this mean the schedule was wrong in the past?
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2012, 10:56 PM »
Still say it will be the Australian Open that will be Andy's first GS.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2012, 10:59 PM »
Somebody send for Andy's medals! I'm sure just fondling them before an important tournament, like US Open will focus his mind and fill his body with feel good, positive vibes!
As far as getting used to the hard courts, well it's his favourite surface, so it won't take long.
What would be nice, would be an easy opening match or two and a decent draw for his half. 'Cause after all -
now! The sort of draw that
Roger usually gets would do.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2012, 11:04 PM »
Quote from: Joe on August 16, 2012, 09:00 PM
I see - I thought it involved organising nights out!
That could cause more problems then it would solve
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« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2012, 11:18 PM »
Quote from: deb on August 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
I've just watched the match back on fast forward , and your right, how astute and I agree with Ruthie he would never say if he was feeling unwell, but a huge difference today from yesterday.
I think the reason is that Andy must have been knackered after the Olympics, both physically and mentally and, as Philip says, has never had time to recover. Coming down off a huge adrenaline high like that takes time. How many other medal-winning athletes were going straight on to another competition and having to fly to a different time zone as well? All the ones I heard said were going to have a long holiday!
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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2012, 12:24 AM »
Here we go again,,,roller coaster Murray Mania....Federer gave England a gift by letting Murray win the Gold Medal...ask anyone who knows tennis...and they will deep inside agree Federer gifted England the Gold!
Now all Murry maniacs can answer and attack back! Ha Ha
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2012, 12:28 AM »
Quote from: Aileen on August 16, 2012, 11:18 PM
I think the reason is that Andy must have been knackered after the Olympics, both physically and mentally and, as Philip says, has never had time to recover. Coming down off a huge adrenaline high like that takes time. How many other medal-winning athletes were going straight on to another competition and having to fly to a different time zone as well? All the ones I heard said were going to have a long holiday!
I agree that he must be tired. I hope he gets to New York quickly, takes a few days off and then starts getting for what it's all about .. the US Open.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2012, 12:33 AM »
Quote from: TeamMurrayyyyy on August 17, 2012, 12:24 AM
Here we go again,,,roller coaster Murray Mania....Federer gave England a gift by letting Murray win the Gold Medal...ask anyone who knows tennis...and they will deep inside agree Federer gifted England the Gold!
Now all Murry maniacs can answer and attack back! Ha Ha
Jeez - you're so thick that you can't even differentiate between England and Great Britain, so what can you possibly know about tennis?!
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2012, 12:34 AM »
Quote from: Philip on August 16, 2012, 10:19 PM
I personally think this is a blessing in disguise.
Imagine if Andy had won and gone on to beat Delpo, Nole and Fed, he would be knackered comes Sunday and then flying to New York will leave insufficient time to be fully prepared for the USO.
This way Andy gets a chance to reach NY by Friday/Saturday, spend a couple of days / a week working on various strokes (FHs, serve, ...) and time to relax and unwind and savour the Olympic Gold & Silver monumental achievements, and be fresh and fully ready for the USO. The poor guy hasn't had time to even put the medals in his trophy cabinet for God's sake and lack of sleep must be catching up. His head is probably still buzzing from the olympic matches and from team GB performance.
Based on what I saw at the Olympic SF & Final, I firmly believe that this website Gold medal will be adorned with a GS trophy within the next 12 months, possibly even at this USO.
Ditto that. Everything happens for the best. Would've been nice to win again in Cincinnati but never mind. (Hot, humid, muggy there now, unless you can play in the cooler evening). All will be better in a week and a half in New York.
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Re: Dismal Murray falls to Chardy
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2012, 12:36 AM »
Quote from: TeamMurrayyyyy on August 17, 2012, 12:24 AM
Here we go again,,,roller coaster Murray Mania....Federer gave England a gift by letting Murray win the Gold Medal...ask anyone who knows tennis...and they will deep inside agree Federer gifted England the Gold!
Now all Murry maniacs can answer and attack back! Ha Ha
Quote from: Aileen on August 17, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jeez - you're so thick that you can't even differentiate between England and Great Britain, so what can you possibly know about tennis?!
Geography is obviously not their strong point. Although, tennis doesn't seem to be either.
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