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Forget the money, Andy, just play « on: January 22, 2006, 12:13 PM »
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Source: Times Online
Murray has enormous potential. That is not a statement designed to add to the load on his youthful shoulders; it’s a fact. He could ultimately become a top-10 player and win Grand Slam titles. However, I use the word could rather than will. Some of the early evidence I have seen brings doubt into my thinking.
Admittedly he complained about the press, but you know, everyones over that now, and now Pat Cash is having a go at him for focussing too much on the money and doing too many press interviews. If he refused to do interviews he'd be ripped apart by the British press - its a no win situation.
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The Scot is already as good as if not better than many of those ranked above him — and regardless of the emphatic nature of Juan Ignacio Chela’s straight-sets win and subsequent success over Lleyton Hewitt in the Australian Open, I include the Argentinian in that equation. Murray’s game is perfectly equipped for the demands of 2006 and the stronger and fitter he becomes, the more likely he is to improve.

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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2006, 01:03 PM »
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Dear me, Andy can't win can he?
Admittedly he complained about the press, but you know, everyones over that now, and now Pat Cash is having a go at him for focussing too much on the money and doing too many press interviews. If he refused to do interviews he'd be ripped apart by the British press - its a no win situation. Of course he was going to do lots of interviews during Wimbledon - I mean it hardly caused problems there did it? he was brand new on the main tennis scene and he needed to get sponsorship, management and a new coach....

Oh blah....I dont know what I'm saying....I just think its a bit rich (ha!) to tell him not to focus on the money when hes showed no intention of doing so....
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2006, 01:11 PM »
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yeah i agree.i dont think hes really been trying to do lots of money making spin (pardon the pun) offs all of a sudden.now the williams sisters on the other hand......
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2006, 05:49 PM »
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I think he was mainly having a go at Andy having signed to write for  The Sun (or any other newspaper)   On the one hand happy to take the money from one side of the press and on the other having a bit of a moan at the rest of the press taking too much of an interest in him.  Not saying Pat is right, this is just my interpretation of one point he is trying to make.
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2006, 05:54 PM »
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Understandable some people are not happy with him signing up with The Sun. I personally don't enjoy reading a column that seems to be from a lowlife chav and an upper class ponce all in one. Not having ago at you Andy, just the editors.
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #5 on: January 22, 2006, 06:05 PM »
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ranting  With you both on this one. The poor kid doesn't stand a chance if Cashy etc start putting the boot in. (Mind, I adore Pat Cash (as oppose to being totally in love /lust with the OTHER Aussie Pat....Rafter Wink  ) wub  wub  wub

I was impressed with the Press Coverage. I thought it was nigh on 100% fair and very humorous. Light hearted yet encouraging.


I remember how Lleyton had the most vicious press ever from his fellow Aussies when he was Andy's age. It must have upset him. While I can cope and laugh at fuzzy's hilarious put downs, Cashy should keep his mouth shut for 18 months. It's different. Why do they have to start so soon? Anything for a story? What will sell more papers, any spin they want to put on a rookie or the day he wins a Major? Bide your times you vultures. Grrrrrrrr.



Leyton managed a couple of slams, I'm rapidly thinking Andy needs to get his (hopefuly and most realisticaly The US Open), before he's 21. The pressure would be off.)


I am sure he is mentally tough, but ( as I glance back through the mists of time to when  was 18 and try and remember just how much I took everything to heart....Wink it's hazy, bear with me)... I hope he takes the sound advice of never reading his own press.

For the first time in decades (fuzzy notwithstanding, and despite Tim never having had quite that "something" that makes a Champion, I think, this time, we ARE seeing a special talent.

Of course he's infinitely newsworthy. Just be positive for a bit, please.

OMG  (I'm ranting at Pat Cash on an  internet forum *shakes head* I cant believe myself. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes I seriously am far too involved.)


Although I'm totally against his involvement with The Sun  I find it uderstandable when you've had years of financially strapped  times and had to work your butt up to get to his position today, I can understand it.

Oh heck, I'm not going to worry. Our boy is tough. It's all a learning process. I'm trying to fight off memories of a few like Anna K and (prepares to be shot down) maybe Andy Roddick?
Plus, of course, Cash's mention of Jan Michael Gambill

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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #6 on: January 22, 2006, 06:06 PM »
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Understandable some people are not happy with him signing up with The Sun. I personally don't enjoy reading a column that seems to be from a lowlife chav and an upper class ponce all in one. Not having ago at you Andy, just the editors.

Damn, I was writing my screed when you posted this. Sums up much more succintly what I wanted to say. Very Happy
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #7 on: January 22, 2006, 08:37 PM »
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Petch's reactions and the BBCs reporting of Cash

Wise words from petch. But as for Cash....

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It is always better to spend an extra half-hour gathering your thoughts after a tough defeat than to rush into the interview room and vent your anger on those asking questions.


Do they have a choice?
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2006, 12:35 AM »
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yeah i think the sunday herald had a good article today about the pressure on young sportspeople.someone from octagon was pointing out that tennis is the only sport in the world where u have to give a press conference after a game.fair enough football teams have to as well but no one person is required to be there
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2006, 01:59 AM »
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Petch's reactions and the BBCs reporting of Cash

Wise words from petch. But as for Cash....

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It is always better to spend an extra half-hour gathering your thoughts after a tough defeat than to rush into the interview room and vent your anger on those asking questions.


Do they have a choice?


At this early stage in his career I would say "No".

Reading Pat's words on that link is better. Perhaps I've misjudged him ( Very Happy though Pat is hardly a bastion of tact himself. )

But that sounds much fairer. And to be honest, apart from his bank manager and the makers of iPod, who actually thinks a ghost written article in Britain's most downbeat tabloid is a good thing?  confused

They should have stuck to Judy's excellent "dairies" of his times at the Majors. She is a natural at conveying the teenage "Kevinisms" with the sheer speed of the expectations and public scrutiny being heaped on him following his rise through the rankings.

Pat Cash does have a relevant point. it's not (nor would I think Andy would disagree) about the money. It's about a long term, potentially great career.

Aww shucks, Andy. let your racquet do the talking.



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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #10 on: January 23, 2006, 10:34 AM »
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"If he believes the press is scrutinising his every move he should stop reading newspapers and he should tell those around him he doesn't want to know what his critics are saying.


This seems to me to be the best thing Andy could do right now.   goodjob
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #11 on: January 23, 2006, 10:42 AM »
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This is such a minefield, isn't it??

I thought Mark Petchey was very sensible in his audio interview - I can think of loads of things I cringe at now that I said when I was 18 (and older!!) If Andy listens to Petch more and reads the papers less, I think he'll do well.

Although I am also not a huge fan of the Sun  :P

In fact, I won't get Sky TV although I'd love to watch the tennis, because I have this anti- Sun, anti- Murdoch thing going. Just don't get me started.
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2006, 11:06 AM »
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yeah ditto.i hope u dont read the times either
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2006, 01:28 PM »
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Absolutely not, have never bought it  - not since I was about 16.

My husband is a member of the Sunday Times Wine Club though, and I do read the Times online articles that are posted on here. Do you think that counts??
Feel guilty about it!!!
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Forget the money, Andy, just play « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2006, 05:02 PM »
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i occasionally read the times online as well.i suppose in someways though its not that bad cos were getting something from murdoch without paying him
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