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Posted on: September 26, 2011, 11:55 AM
Posted by: Alis
I believe Andy Roddick is making quite a bit of noise on the other side of the pond - talking of a player union independent of the ATP and confirming that there will be a meeting in Shanghai.  It might take a little of the flack away from oor Andy but I rather doubt it!
Posted on: September 26, 2011, 11:36 AM
Posted by: deb
Federer had a load of points to defend in Shanghai,
Good,
It further ensures Andy ending at number 3 this year.
Not that I had too many doubts about it.
Brilliant just what i wonted to hear, and Tessie and AFT, your right Fed will not be playing much longer and is sucking up to the ATP,  its very unfair Andy is taking the stick for all this as most of us are saying he didnt start it Nadal did, but they are all entitled to their opinion, and Andy will always get bad press dosnt matter what he says or does, even when he wins his first slam ( next year) it will be when will he win another!!
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 11:27 PM
Posted by: Allan
Yeah, Fed loses finalist points from Shanghai last year, and we keep forgetting that he won the 250 event in Stockholm the week after so he'll lose the points from there as well.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:58 PM
Posted by: iamabritt
I doubt it. Federer does not have a subtle bone in his make-up.
Well OSS I'l give him the benifit of the doubt.you never know.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:50 PM
Posted by: OldScotSupport
I wonder if his pulling out is just a bit more subtle way for him to make his point.

I doubt it. Federer does not have a subtle bone in his make-up.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:44 PM
Posted by: iamabritt
No iamabritt we certainly don't lol!
Andy needs to get to number 3 and give himself a boost.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:43 PM
Posted by: Patsy
No iamabritt we certainly don't lol!
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:39 PM
Posted by: iamabritt
Won't he lose a lot of points as Andy beat him in the final last year?
maybe but we don't mind that ...do we.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:38 PM
Posted by: Patsy
Won't he lose a lot of points as Andy beat him in the final last year?
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 08:08 PM
Posted by: iamabritt
That thought did cross my mind too.  Fed so rarely pulls out of tournaments that it just seemed a bit of a co-incidence.
I wonder if his pulling out is just a bit more subtle way for him to make his point.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 06:09 PM
Posted by: Tasmanian Devil
Fed has withdrawn from Shanghai Masters. Is it possible that the true reason for Federer's absence was that he did not want to be seen as a radical opposed to ATP and that it might have a detrimental effect on his faultless image.

That thought did cross my mind too.  Fed so rarely pulls out of tournaments that it just seemed a bit of a co-incidence.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 12:55 PM
Posted by: MT
 was trying to find this article by Amanda Platell but couldn't. Probably just as well as she really annoys me. This is the woman who advised John Major on his public image (!!) and presumably covered up his revolting little affair with Edwina Currie. I see she has written an article about the English rugby player who went for a beer after the game and said he has "let down rugby,  his country, the royal family and himself."  Clearly mad.   doh
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 12:15 PM
Posted by: FCR
Somehow I doubt that FCR......These kind of people seldom do! Why don't you give it a go anyway.......see what kind of response you get!

Is there any point when this appeared in The Mirror this week
"TO add to the world’s economic problems, Andy Murray and ­other leading tennis players are ­threatening to strike.

Murray, who will make about £8million this year, believes they’re being asked to play too many games and he’s ­exhausted, especially with all those multi-million pound endorsements he needs to fit in.

Right on Red Andy, forget the ­public sector pensions strike, this is the cause for me.

I’m getting down to whichever five-star hotel he’s staying in at the next tournament, with ­placards ­reading: “What do we want? Andy hitting fewer balls over nets. When do we want it? When his mum says so.”



Posted on: September 25, 2011, 12:11 PM
Posted by: Alis
May I digress on to another subject, which does involve Andy.

That well known master of the tennisworld, the Fed has withdrawn from Shanghai Masters. Andy has been often quoted as saying that the tennis big 4 and others would meet in Shanghai to discuss the probleme generated by playing too many tournaments on the ATP World tour. Is it possible that the true reason for Federer's absence was that he did not want to be seen as a radical opposed to ATP and that it might have a detrimental effect on his faultless image.

Any comments?

I'm afraid the cynic in me thought exactly the same OSS and with Djoko out too, that just leaves Rafa and Andy to bang the drum and be branded as 'trouble-makers'.  That's how it appears on the surface but perhaps Roger and Novak are giving their support behind the scenes.  Federer has been quoted as saying that the season is too long and something needs to be done.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 12:05 PM
Posted by: Alis
Alis, either I haven't made my comments clear, or you haven't read them properly, - but we  are making the same points!

Sorry MP - I think I must have clicked the wrong 'quote' button - I was actually intending to back up your post.  Another senior moment!
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 10:57 AM
Posted by: Caz
Somehow I doubt that FCR......These kind of people seldom do! Why don't you give it a go anyway.......see what kind of response you get!
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 09:02 AM
Posted by: FCR
Why don't you do it FCR........You seem to have all the info there and you are an Andy fan after all.......aren't you?

I don't mind being a voice in the wilderness, but if a whole lot more people write to her, she just might take some notice.
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 07:30 AM
Posted by: Caz
Ms Platell has a very simplistic way of looking at sport.  She has no clue what it takes to be an elite athlete. She's always shown a real dislike for Andy.  She wrote this after the epic Gasquet match at Wimbledon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030973/Great-win-Andy-Pity-yobbery.html
She mentions Andy along with Joey Barton and 2 rugby stars accused of rape.  I remember it because it was posted on the am.com forum and fans were talking about it for weeks.  A horrible article.  She does champion Tiger Woods in the article though.

Quite frankly she's a nasty piece of work.  Then again she writes for the DM so I shouldn't really be surprised.  A 'rag' of a paper.  If people are happy to believe everything they read in the 'rags' then that's their problem.  They're no loss to Andy.

I couldn't agree with you more Caz.
Thanks for your support IonaRed! This subject seemed to be 'hyjacked' for a while back there and turned into politics!
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 07:24 AM
Posted by: Caz
Don't shoot the messenger - I'm not Amanda Platell.  However, if folk on here with to challenge her opinion, or enlighten her as to the other side of Andy, then I guess you could always email her at [email protected] and see whether she changes her mind and has the courage to print it.  Andy's campaign for mosquito nets; the Murray family paying for Dunblane school kids to attend the Davis Cup; Set4Sport, etc.
Why don't you do it FCR........You seem to have all the info there and you are an Andy fan after all.......aren't you?
Posted on: September 25, 2011, 01:52 AM
Posted by: IonaRed
Amanda Platell's comments in her column today in The Mail certainly won't help Andy's image with the British public - 24 years old, £22Million wealth and plays an average of 1.5 matches per week but whinges.

When my sister (happily married to a McNeil for 49 years) reads this she'll hate Murray even more, despite the nice things I say about him.  Opinion will be like a monkey on his back unless he learns to win over the wider public.  Sorry, but it's true and I suspect a stubborn Andy knows it.

Does your sister read that 'rag' as well? The fact is, that the people who don't like Andy, don't know Andy like his fans do, and more to the point, they don't want to, so they are only too happy to believe the tripe that's written about him. Andy bends over backwards to please the public and 'stubborn' doesn't come into it! People like that? I for one couldn't give a toss for what they think!

Ms Platell has a very simplistic way of looking at sport.  She has no clue what it takes to be an elite athlete. She's always shown a real dislike for Andy.  She wrote this after the epic Gasquet match at Wimbledon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030973/Great-win-Andy-Pity-yobbery.html
She mentions Andy along with Joey Barton and 2 rugby stars accused of rape.  I remember it because it was posted on the am.com forum and fans were talking about it for weeks.  A horrible article.  She does champion Tiger Woods in the article though.

Quite frankly she's a nasty piece of work.  Then again she writes for the DM so I shouldn't really be surprised.  A 'rag' of a paper.  If people are happy to believe everything they read in the 'rags' then that's their problem.  They're no loss to Andy.

I couldn't agree with you more Caz.