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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #45 on: September 19, 2011, 01:53 PM »
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For me, the most important thing to take from this weekend is that Andy showed his commitment to play for his country even though he was exhausted. I don't think many other top players would have played a dead rubber, so full credit to Andy for that. Whether or not he sings/doesn't sing GSTQ or Flower of Scotland shouldn't be a big issue imo.

Re the kit, I heard that Andy forgot to bring his shorts to the tie (they had to buy some from Braehead) so maybe he forgot to bring his Team GB shirt too! Whatever the reason, he obviously didn't mind wearing his GB tracksuit so don't think we should read anything into not wearing the GB shirt for his matches.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #46 on: September 19, 2011, 02:14 PM »
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i don't get the format of davis cup. can somebody please explain? gb gets to the europe/africa group but then spain and argentina battles in the finals.

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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #47 on: September 19, 2011, 02:16 PM »
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This is not so much a critcism of Andy, but it is a critcism of the LTA for not being more careful about the official programme presented to the British audience.  I don't think the Scots or Welsh would be amused if a Davis Cup match were held in England with a song penned and formally sung on court by Chaz and Dave, together with upright piano and candelabra, slagging off Robert the Bruce and Owain Glyndwr.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #48 on: September 19, 2011, 02:17 PM »
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Hi Lost Soul! There's about four groups above "europe/africa" we have a big mountain to climb...alas. Spain and Argentina are at the top of Group 1. Hope this is right Smile
have a look on the Official Davis Cup site. Just google
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #49 on: September 19, 2011, 06:24 PM »
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For me, the most important thing to take from this weekend is that Andy showed his commitment to play for his country even though he was exhausted. I don't think many other top players would have played a dead rubber, so full credit to Andy for that. Whether or not he sings/doesn't sing GSTQ or Flower of Scotland shouldn't be a big issue imo.

Re the kit, I heard that Andy forgot to bring his shorts to the tie (they had to buy some from Braehead) so maybe he forgot to bring his Team GB shirt too! Whatever the reason, he obviously didn't mind wearing his GB tracksuit so don't think we should read anything into not wearing the GB shirt for his matches.
Well said Katie, the scrutiny Andy gets put under at times is staggering to say the least. I agree, who cares what he sings or what he wears. Personally I love him for his tennis and that he comes across as an excellent human being.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #50 on: September 19, 2011, 06:43 PM »
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For me, the most important thing to take from this weekend is that Andy showed his commitment to play for his country even though he was exhausted. I don't think many other top players would have played a dead rubber, so full credit to Andy for that. Whether or not he sings/doesn't sing GSTQ or Flower of Scotland shouldn't be a big issue imo.

Re the kit, I heard that Andy forgot to bring his shorts to the tie (they had to buy some from Braehead) so maybe he forgot to bring his Team GB shirt too! Whatever the reason, he obviously didn't mind wearing his GB tracksuit so don't think we should read anything into not wearing the GB shirt for his matches.

Couldn't agree more Katie - Andy playing the dead rubber yesterday just shows what commitment he has to his fans, his team and the Davis Cup.  I am sure none of the other top 4 players would have played a dead rubber - in fact Rafa said as much - and who could blame them?

I don't see any reason why Andy shouldn't have been piped into FOS - he is Scottish and he was playing in Scotland under a Scottish team captain - it doesn't make him any less British.

Interesting that the Rugby Union authorities have banned the Red Hot Chilli Pipers from playing before the England/Scotland game at the World Cup in New Zealand on the grounds that it might distract/intimidate the Scots' opponents.  This from a country that does the Haka before their matches - a war dance that is deliberately designed to intimidate the opposition!
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #51 on: September 19, 2011, 07:25 PM »
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Couldnt get to Scotland last weekend but I was there in July. I am English and guess what I didnt sing along to gstq but was enjoying singing along to everything else including You take the high road, I will walk 500 miles and everything else which added to the fantastic atmosphere. Frankly this debate is just rediculous. ALL the boys played fantasticly well and we won 5 love that is all we need to be talking about.  Andy is getting depressed by negative comments made about him and has commented on it alot recently dont you think it is bad enough that the media continue to do this without this site of his "supporters" joining in especially on something as petty as what he sang, you needed to be there to understand.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #52 on: September 19, 2011, 07:48 PM »
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #53 on: September 19, 2011, 07:57 PM »
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I was at the Davis Cup tie - absolutely amazing atmosphere out of this world.  First time I have seen Andy in the flesh - well worth the money.  Had tickets for all three days and enjoyed every single minute of it.  With regard to the shirts - Andy warmed up in the GB shirt but it looked ridiculously small and he could not serve properly in it.  He came out to play in his regular tops.  Colin Fleming changed his shirt in the 2nd set on Sunday to the Team GB shirt!!!  With regard to the national anthem thing - if you are Scottish is fills you with a sense of pride that nobody could get unless you are Scottish -Andy is Scottish he is proud of being Scottish.  I can tell you without  that piping onto the court he would have struggled to complete that match in straights - he was so tired and who can blame him the travelling and heavy schedule look to be catching up on him so  a bit of scottishness picked him up.  He even apologised to the crowd for not playing as well as he should.  Some of the shots he played even when he did not come out of 1st gear were truly astounding I was a complete Muzza fan before seeing him this weekend and now have even managed to convert my husband (totally footy mad nae other sport bar football man).  Andy has always said he is proud to represent GB but is a proud Scot.  If the next tie is in England good luck and lets hope they put on as good a show as Braehead.  That moment when Andy was piped onto the court had grown men in tears and made you so proud to be Scottish.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #54 on: September 19, 2011, 08:57 PM »
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I am patriotic, but I won't sing along with GSTQ because of the lyrics.  A national anthem should be about the country, not just about one person.  I don't know much about this subject, but I'm curious as to how many other countries' anthems are about their monarch/leader?  I'm presuming not many.

Anyways, it was fun to see us win 5-0 even if the competition were part-timers or whatever.  Is it possible we could be playing Fed next year?  Playing the countries in that group will bring us back down to earth with a bump, but I hope we come out fighting.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #55 on: September 19, 2011, 09:05 PM »
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I was at the Davis Cup tie - absolutely amazing atmosphere out of this world.  First time I have seen Andy in the flesh - well worth the money.  Had tickets for all three days and enjoyed every single minute of it.  With regard to the shirts - Andy warmed up in the GB shirt but it looked ridiculously small and he could not serve properly in it.  He came out to play in his regular tops.  Colin Fleming changed his shirt in the 2nd set on Sunday to the Team GB shirt!!!  With regard to the national anthem thing - if you are Scottish is fills you with a sense of pride that nobody could get unless you are Scottish -Andy is Scottish he is proud of being Scottish.  I can tell you without  that piping onto the court he would have struggled to complete that match in straights - he was so tired and who can blame him the travelling and heavy schedule look to be catching up on him so  a bit of scottishness picked him up.  He even apologised to the crowd for not playing as well as he should.  Some of the shots he played even when he did not come out of 1st gear were truly astounding I was a complete Muzza fan before seeing him this weekend and now have even managed to convert my husband (totally footy mad nae other sport bar football man).  Andy has always said he is proud to represent GB but is a proud Scot.  If the next tie is in England good luck and lets hope they put on as good a show as Braehead.  That moment when Andy was piped onto the court had grown men in tears and made you so proud to be Scottish.

Totally agree with everything you say! However James Ward,Colin Flemming and Ross Hutchins did have something to do with the win too. Without a doubt so far the Braehead has been the best venue (I have been twice as well as to liverpool, bolton, and birmingham) For me its not about Scotland or England and all about the Tennis and where we get the best support so all the boys can play well. Andy is very committed to the sport and his fans, I sometimes think he wants the slam win for us more than for himself. Please can we come away from this Scottish/English thing and just support the tennis.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #56 on: September 19, 2011, 09:15 PM »
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Frankly, I think FOS is an appauling song. It talks about a defeat, not a victory Give me Scots wha hae anytime.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #57 on: September 19, 2011, 09:28 PM »
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Frankly, I think FOS is an appauling song. It talks about a defeat, not a victory Give me Scots wha hae anytime.

I have to challenge that one OSS - I don't like FOS as our anthem either but it is about the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 which was one of the rare Scottish victories against the English.  However, that was nearly 700 years ago and I think its time we moved on.  Scots Wae Hae is a dirge IMO and the words are really depressing.

I do agree with all the other posts though that say this is about the tennis and not about anthems or shirts.  Well done to all the team - long may the success continue.  It looks as though we'll have Oz in our group rather than Switzerland though.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #58 on: September 19, 2011, 10:17 PM »
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Just before you entered the arena at Braehead there were stalls sets up for tennis books, DVDs, tennis balls etc.  There was also a section where you could purchase Adidas/Nike etc sportswear.

I mentioned the GB shirts to my brother today and he said on Friday he saw Matt Little (Andy's fitness trainer) out at the adidas stall picking up shorts and Andy's blue adidas shirt.  I can only assume there was some problem with Andy's attire and he was forced to get replacements.

If people are determined to see Andy's lack of a GB playing shirt as some sort of slight or anti-GB stance then that is their problem.  I would have thought him actually turning up and playing his 2 matches (including a dead rubber) was proof of his commitment but obviously not.
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Re: Great Britain beat Hungary in Davis Cup « Reply #59 on: September 19, 2011, 11:09 PM »
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Hi Lost Soul! There's about four groups above "europe/africa" we have a big mountain to climb...alas. Spain and Argentina are at the top of Group 1. Hope this is right Smile
have a look on the Official Davis Cup site. Just google

Nope, Spain and Argentina are in the world group final. The world group is one tier above Europe/Africa group 1. GB could be in the world group by 2013 at the earliest.
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