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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #60 on: May 16, 2013, 06:03 PM »
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So, if he has an injury, then let it be known.  I'm not sure what he hopes to achieve by keeping it quiet.  He's maybe not injured - maybe clay just pisses him off - that I can understand.  

Andy has kept the nature of the injury to himself because he doesn't want opponents to use it. He said quite clearly yesterday that certain shots hurt, though he quite rightly didn't say what they were. If an opponent knew exactly what was wrong, or what shots they could use that would cause Andy pain, they would just use it to beat him. If the shoe was on the other foot Andy would do the same. It's human nature.

I think Andy is also entitled to privacy. If Nadal can give out three different diagnoses for his knee problem I have no problem whatsoever with Andy not announcing what his injury is from the rooftops. The fact that he patently obviously is injured and that the clay, or rather the way you have to play on clay, makes it worse, should be enough.

The clay pee's me right off. I'd rip all the clay courts up and replace them with hard and grass. I bet Nadal would love me Whistle.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #61 on: May 16, 2013, 06:20 PM »
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^ I think we fail to see the bigger picture.  Opponents know Andy is not at his best - and that gives them a huge chance.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #62 on: May 16, 2013, 06:35 PM »
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Andy hasn't kept it quiet.  He's very clear that he has a long term lower back problem, which started over a year ago and is aggravated by playing on the clay.  I don't think we have any right to a medical report!  It's like the Americans demanding a copy of Obama's birth certificate.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #63 on: May 16, 2013, 06:37 PM »
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I was just wondering why they are waiting until next Wednesday for a scan.  Surely if it was that urgent he could have one immediately just like Nole did for his ankle.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #64 on: May 16, 2013, 06:38 PM »
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I thought he was having a scan today?  I understand that's what Judy said. I thought he was waiting to decide whether to play in RG?  Or has there been a more recent statement about the scan?
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #65 on: May 16, 2013, 08:10 PM »
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We do not have a right to know the exact details of Andy's injury. He is quite right not to give all the details he does have a private life and no one else needs to know except his nearest and dearest. Nadal did not broadcast far and wide so why should Andy that is private and it is up to him what he wants to say.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #66 on: May 16, 2013, 08:23 PM »
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I was just wondering why they are waiting until next Wednesday for a scan.  Surely if it was that urgent he could have one immediately just like Nole did for his ankle.

I've just been reading the BBC's text service about Andy and his injury. They say Andy will have a scan on Thursday, which I take to mean today, seeing as the piece was put on there yesterday. They never seem to use words like 'today', 'tomorrow', etc. I suspect they don't like to show how out of date the news on there is.

I hope that makes it a bit clearer.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #67 on: May 16, 2013, 08:26 PM »
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Andy hasn't kept it quiet.  He's very clear that he has a long term lower back problem, which started over a year ago and is aggravated by playing on the clay.  I don't think we have any right to a medical report!  It's like the Americans demanding a copy of Obama's birth certificate.
i think nine tenths of the population have a lower back problem - it's where tension sits.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #68 on: May 16, 2013, 08:44 PM »
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I thought I had read somewhere that he was having a scan next Wednesday, but I probably misread it.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #69 on: May 16, 2013, 08:47 PM »
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I agree with everyone who says that Andy doesn't have to explain his medical details to us. Nadal didn't tell a lot eather. I'ts just an awareness that we write predictions, encourage during matches, wondering what is happening like against Granollers , organize our personal life to see as much we can of the matches  and we don't know about the most  impartant thing, his health. Besides, since Soderling had to retire because of illness we know that playing tennis til the age of 32, 33 is no certainty...

So I'll hope he'll be fit soon, that's most important!
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #70 on: May 16, 2013, 08:55 PM »
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I thought I had read somewhere that he was having a scan next Wednesday, but I probably misread it.

See th article of the BBC from today:


Murray will have a scan on Thursday but has said he would be "very surprised" if he makes the French Open on 26 May.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #71 on: May 16, 2013, 11:27 PM »
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Andy hasn't kept it quiet.  He's very clear that he has a long term lower back problem, which started over a year ago and is aggravated by playing on the clay.  I don't think we have any right to a medical report!  It's like the Americans demanding a copy of Obama's birth certificate.

I dont think its like Americans demanding a copy of Obama's birth certificate at all. Anyway, regardless ...probably better keeping political comparisons out of a sporting forum. Especially , if you dont live there.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #72 on: May 17, 2013, 12:13 AM »
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I've just been asked a few questions on another forum and I'm ashamed to say I can't answer them all. They're about Andy's knee condition. I know he was 16 when his knee condition was diagnosed. I know he took a break of about 6 mths. Was it diagnosed in Spain? Did he move back home or did he stay and rest in Spain?  Was it first noticed because of the stress of the surface?
 
Can anyone help as I'd like to be able to answer?

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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #73 on: May 17, 2013, 07:40 AM »
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I believe that it did first show up on clay which is why I think he does not like clay.  It was diagnosed in the Uk eventually.  This is what I read in his book.  He was very depressed as he thought he might not play tennis again.
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Re: Injured Murray retires in Rome « Reply #74 on: May 17, 2013, 10:01 AM »
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i think nine tenths of the population have a lower back problem - it's where tension sits.
but 9/10 of the population don't suffer significant pain as a result.  As someone who has done so I have every sympathy with Andy - I've never been in so much agony as with my back.  I sense some people are implying this isn't anything significant and just one of the usual niggles that afflict tennis players.   If that were the case, I don't think Andy would be considering withdrawing from a GS that he has been working so hard to excel in.
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