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Posted on: August 17, 2013, 12:19 PM New message
Posted by: ProdigyEng
So this JJ player is going to win 10 grand slams? Aye   just  you just sit doon pal.  This is just a classic case of  big serving player  purple patch  match. He will lose in the next round.  He is nothing special.



Janowicz is just another Rosol. Get a big win and then failing to back it up.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 08:21 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
Good luck to the guy for doing so well this week but.....he has the sort of game that other players will soon work out.  Also, on courts slower than Paris his serve will be less potent (although still good obviously).  He's up to No.30 now ahead of players like Baggy and Troicki but not sure if he'll stay there for long.  All the same, we don't want him in Andy's part of the draw at Oz!
I do. Andy nearly beat him playing at a very mediocre level this week. At the AO, much closer to his best, he would pulverise him in straights (ala Raonic at the USO). And I'd like to see this H2H straightened out as soon as possible really.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 07:49 PM
Posted by: teejay1
@teejay 1
Better in every department than Cilic. Just compare forehands for a start. His backhand is poor and I kept yelling at Simon to send the ball to his backhand, but alas he wasn't listening to me.. Rolling Eyes
He couldn't even send his serve to JJ's backhand.....sigh.

To be honest I didn't mean his game as such. I can't put my finger on it, but he reminded me of Cilic. Then again, Paris hasn't had my full attention this week. Thank God my visitors are now back home and I can watch the WTF in peace. Then again, the phone will undoubtedly ring just as Andy appears tomorrow. Honestly, I think it's a rule or something lol.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 07:06 PM
Posted by: Mackem
Good luck to the guy for doing so well this week but.....he has the sort of game that other players will soon work out.  Also, on courts slower than Paris his serve will be less potent (although still good obviously).  He's up to No.30 now ahead of players like Baggy and Troicki but not sure if he'll stay there for long.  All the same, we don't want him in Andy's part of the draw at Oz!
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 07:01 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean
JJ still has a long way to go, frankly. The burden of playing consistent tennis once you get recognized is huge and it sometimes takes years for players to overcome it. Here, in this tournament, JJ was more like a free spirit with no strings attached and so he was able to showcase his talent, but once this is done and you become one of the ones with the potential, it automatically becomes a much harder road and a much tougher task.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 04:08 PM
Posted by: tamila
Spot on Teejay
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 02:06 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
@ TMH
"..do I need to repeat myself.."
No need to be rude just because we have a difference of opinion.
Not being rude BBH, just getting a little tired of repeating the same point over and over again to different posters.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 01:23 PM
Posted by: blueberryhill
@ TMH
"..do I need to repeat myself.."
No need to be rude just because we have a difference of opinion.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 01:20 PM
Posted by: blueberryhill
@teejay 1
Better in every department than Cilic. Just compare forehands for a start. His backhand is poor and I kept yelling at Simon to send the ball to his backhand, but alas he wasn't listening to me.. Rolling Eyes
He couldn't even send his serve to JJ's backhand.....sigh.
But, as you say, the real test will come next year when he will play tournament after tournament and the other players will be more ready for him. His type of game will probably lend itself to injury too, I'd think.
He just lost a Challenger in Moscow. Wonder who to? And where is that man? Whistle Why wasn't he in Paris Think
Or perhaps he was.....
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 01:15 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
I think the key with what has happened to JJ is the word potential. He looks like he has the potential to be top ten. He moves quite well for a big guy, he has a game to back up the big serve, although it seems to me that the serve is the big foundation of his game.

It's whether he can be consistent or not, and we won't know that for a while yet. The thing is, JJ has had an incredible week, without a shadow of a doubt, but can he do it again and again? Can he do it when the top players are either all on form or with their minds not focused on the WTF. We'll see. How many players have been touted as the next one to break through only to struggle to do it given that the bar has been raised so high in this era? Time will tell if JJ can do it.

Whatever happens, and personally, nothing against JJ, but I'd prefer Ferrer to win today, what JJ has pulled off this week has been fascinating to see. Maybe he got a wee bit lucky against Andy, and possibly also against Tipsy, but what I personally admire is that he has made full use of that luck, so good on him.

Does JJ remind anyone else of Cilic? Every time I've watched him this week I've thought of Cilic, but with a stronger mental state.

The interesting thing about today is that should JJ win he could be seeded at the AO. Why do I get the feeling I can already predict who will have him in their draw if that happens?
Well said Teejay.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 01:14 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
@ TMH
Not looking at one tournament. Looking at the way JJ plays. Much better all round game IMHO.
Don't think JJ competed much last year. May explain low ranking? But now shooting up to 22 I believe.
Unless he becomes injured, watch this space.
Yes but it's still one tournament. Plenty of players have looked world beaters in one tournament then fallen away. Gulbis, Golubev, etc, do I need to repeat myself? We have no idea whatsoever how consistent he will be. He's clearly on form now, and he's obviously not going to be in this sort of form in every single tournament. This could be his regular ability (which would be strange, as he's not performed like this all year..) or more likely it's a bit of a flash in the pan.
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 12:11 PM
Posted by: teejay1
I think the key with what has happened to JJ is the word potential. He looks like he has the potential to be top ten. He moves quite well for a big guy, he has a game to back up the big serve, although it seems to me that the serve is the big foundation of his game.

It's whether he can be consistent or not, and we won't know that for a while yet. The thing is, JJ has had an incredible week, without a shadow of a doubt, but can he do it again and again? Can he do it when the top players are either all on form or with their minds not focused on the WTF. We'll see. How many players have been touted as the next one to break through only to struggle to do it given that the bar has been raised so high in this era? Time will tell if JJ can do it.

Whatever happens, and personally, nothing against JJ, but I'd prefer Ferrer to win today, what JJ has pulled off this week has been fascinating to see. Maybe he got a wee bit lucky against Andy, and possibly also against Tipsy, but what I personally admire is that he has made full use of that luck, so good on him.

Does JJ remind anyone else of Cilic? Every time I've watched him this week I've thought of Cilic, but with a stronger mental state.

The interesting thing about today is that should JJ win he could be seeded at the AO. Why do I get the feeling I can already predict who will have him in their draw if that happens?
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 08:10 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
@ TMH
Not looking at one tournament. Looking at the way JJ plays. Much better all round game IMHO.
Don't think JJ competed much last year. May explain low ranking? But now shooting up to 22 I believe.
Unless he becomes injured, watch this space.
Only 22 if he wins today I think.  Otherwise Peter Fleming thought might be in the 29/30 region.  Either way meteoric and I guess would qualify for most improved player award?
Posted on: November 04, 2012, 07:19 AM
Posted by: blueberryhill
@ TMH
Not looking at one tournament. Looking at the way JJ plays. Much better all round game IMHO.
Don't think JJ competed much last year. May explain low ranking? But now shooting up to 22 I believe.
Unless he becomes injured, watch this space.
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 05:26 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter

I completely disagree. JJ moves much better than R. His ROS is much better and he has gr8 touch on the ball.

Saw first set of Llodra v. Querry. How boring was that? Neither has a decent ROS so it was serve, serve serve.  zz
Stopped watching in the end.
But you're basing this on one tournament.

Raonic has beaten Murray twice and consistently caused Federer problems. Raonic has been top 30 for two years now and is now top 15. Janowicz - at the same age! - is nowhere near.

One tournament doesn't make a player. Other players have looked world beaters in the past then gone and lost to someone outside the top 100 the next week. Gulbis, Golubev, Tomic, Rosol.. need I go on?

Raonic is very consistent. Let's wait and see how consistent this guy is. I doubt Janowicz will ever rank above Raonic however.
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 05:22 PM
Posted by: Grabcopy
lmao
 You're talking Tipsy, I presume. He didn't even have the grace to look a teeny weeny bit ill naughty


Djokovic, Tsonga, Tipsy... possibly Murray. All tanked to some degree, I believe.
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 01:47 PM
Posted by: Elena
I doubt any of these "sickies" will withdraw from London.  The Night Nurse will come out and all will make miraculous recoveries.  Even Andy talks about his boat trip down the Thames.  I wonder when that trip was arranged?

My email reminder (in case I might forget to go on Monday!), includes
Why not arrive by boat on KPMG Thames Clippers?
Our River Bus Express boat service arrives at North Greenwich Pier, just 3 mins walk from The O2 entrance, plus there's a fully licensed bar on board. The journey from central London takes 35 mins and departures go from London Eye, London Bridge and Canary Wharf piers. It's a great way to end the night too, with boats leaving North Greenwich after the event. Please note advanced booking is recommended".

I'm sure private boats are pretty easy to organise as well - a friend of mine went on one the other day for a job she was doing.
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 01:34 PM
Posted by: FCR
I doubt any of these "sickies" will withdraw from London.  The Night Nurse will come out and all will make miraculous recoveries.  Even Andy talks about his boat trip down the Thames.  I wonder when that trip was arranged?
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 10:14 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
lmao
 You're talking Tipsy, I presume. He didn't even have the grace to look a teeny weeny bit ill naughty

Well according to the INdependent it's thought to have been a sore throat. Poor diddums unable to complete a match because of a sore throat, if that really is true.
Posted on: November 03, 2012, 10:12 AM
Posted by: tamila
I know Brad Gilbert predicted this but I am afraid I do not have much faith in his predictions particularly since seeing the interview with him and Lendl.  I have also notice he was sacked by Nishikori in Australia.