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Posted on: August 12, 2013, 09:15 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Hair wars??? 
lmao
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 09:12 PM
Posted by: Elly
How I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Andy said that. He's not wrong, is he?

I'm glad Cameron is in to the tennis. Let's be honest, he has to have one redeeming feature. According to Jonathan Overend, Cameron isn't a bad player. Apparently he plays with Andrew Castle a lot. Now why doesn't that surprise me Whistle.
Hair wars??? 
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 09:11 PM
Posted by: Aileen

Interestingly Andy was quoted in New Statesman last week as follows:
'"It's so nice to see you all getting along so well" Murray observed drily "Shame you can't be like this all the time". There was an awkward pause. The emotionless delivery made it impossible to tell if he was being deadpan or deadly earnest'  Now how their political editor knew what Andy said I don't know - presumably at second hand via one of the leaders.  But clearly from what followed the feeling was that Andy had put his finger on something.  Yes Cameron is a genuine tennis fan Aileen (about his only redeeming quality in my view!)
And mine too Ruthie. Rolling Eyes  I don't rate Miliband much better though.

I love Andy's comment.  The expression "Many a true word is spoken in jest" comes to mind, although I can well believe that he was being serious, given the shambles this country is in thanks to all the political in-fighting.


How I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Andy said that. He's not wrong, is he?

I'm glad Cameron is in to the tennis. Let's be honest, he has to have one redeeming feature. According to Jonathan Overend, Cameron isn't a bad player. Apparently he plays with Andrew Castle a lot. Now why doesn't that surprise me Whistle.
I'd forgotten about that TJ. lol



Posted on: August 12, 2013, 03:57 PM
Posted by: backhandslice

Interestingly Andy was quoted in New Statesman last week as follows:
'"It's so nice to see you all getting along so well" Murray observed drily "Shame you can't be like this all the time". There was an awkward pause. The emotionless delivery made it impossible to tell if he was being deadpan or deadly earnest'  Now how their political editor knew what Andy said I don't know - presumably at second hand via one of the leaders.  But clearly from what followed the feeling was that Andy had put his finger on something.  Yes Cameron is a genuine tennis fan Aileen (about his only redeeming quality in my view!)

hilarious  ! Very Happy
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 03:53 PM
Posted by: teejay1

Interestingly Andy was quoted in New Statesman last week as follows:
'"It's so nice to see you all getting along so well" Murray observed drily "Shame you can't be like this all the time". There was an awkward pause. The emotionless delivery made it impossible to tell if he was being deadpan or deadly earnest'  Now how their political editor knew what Andy said I don't know - presumably at second hand via one of the leaders.  But clearly from what followed the feeling was that Andy had put his finger on something.  Yes Cameron is a genuine tennis fan Aileen (about his only redeeming quality in my view!)

How I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Andy said that. He's not wrong, is he?

I'm glad Cameron is in to the tennis. Let's be honest, he has to have one redeeming feature. According to Jonathan Overend, Cameron isn't a bad player. Apparently he plays with Andrew Castle a lot. Now why doesn't that surprise me Whistle.
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Posted by: Caz
^ Exactly! yes
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 01:40 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Yes I'm sure Andy did put his finger on something Ruthie! Probably the fact that the parties should 'all be working together' to get us out of the mess we are in, instead of trying to score points off each other all the time. It's nice to know that one of them has a redeeming feature....even if it's only tennis!
'only' tennis Caz?   shocking    No you're right being a tennis fan doesn't make up for everything else....
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
Posted by: Caz
Yes I'm sure Andy did put his finger on something Ruthie! Probably the fact that the parties should 'all be working together' to get us out of the mess we are in, instead of trying to score points off each other all the time. It's nice to know that one of them has a redeeming feature....even if it's only tennis!
Posted on: August 12, 2013, 12:43 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Talking to Cameron & Co must have been very stressful no matter what Andy's political opinions are given that they appeared to behave like a bunch of school kids, especially Cameron, although he is a genuine tennis fan.  I think he won some big tournie at Eton. 

 
 


Interestingly Andy was quoted in New Statesman last week as follows:
'"It's so nice to see you all getting along so well" Murray observed drily "Shame you can't be like this all the time". There was an awkward pause. The emotionless delivery made it impossible to tell if he was being deadpan or deadly earnest'  Now how their political editor knew what Andy said I don't know - presumably at second hand via one of the leaders.  But clearly from what followed the feeling was that Andy had put his finger on something.  Yes Cameron is a genuine tennis fan Aileen (about his only redeeming quality in my view!)
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 11:07 PM
Posted by: teejay1
No I think you'll find the best player in the world is playing,  the second best player in the world currently is not.  So is Andy not going to have a say about where he finishes the year??  He has plenty of points he can gain after the USO.  That is just a ludicrous post......

Can I just say thank you for this? You have made exactly the point I was trying to make on the ranking thread earlier.

Andy still has plenty of points he can gain over the rest of the year. Nadal could continue to gain, we all know that, but is he really going to? I know what I think. Nadal has won most of his points, surprise, surprise, on the clay. Let's see what he's like after a few weeks on the hard.

I said from the start of the year that I thought this latter part of the year would be big. I still think that.

The all too obvious assumption is that Andy is not going to do well for the rest of the year and Novak and Nadal have all the say in matters. What utter nonsense.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 09:07 PM
Posted by: The Gnome
1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)    7,010
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB)    6,230
3 Murray, Andy (GBR)    5,160
4 Ferrer, David (ESP)    4,440
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG)    2,870

Virtually all of those points for Rafa have come from clay tournaments (feigns surprise) let's look at things after the hardcourt swing, i think they will be totally different, Nadal is probably going to skip Cincinatti if he wins Montreal so this shows he is not going to play a massive amount over the next 4 months.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 08:45 PM
Posted by: BigNose
1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP)    7,010
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB)    6,230
3 Murray, Andy (GBR)    5,160
4 Ferrer, David (ESP)    4,440
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG)    2,870
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 08:35 PM
Posted by: Aileen
[email protected]:  I think there was a hint of that in what Andy has been saying about never having experienced anything like that before.  40 odd interviews in two days on virtually no sleep + having to make small talk to all the main party leaders! 
Aileen: did Andy actually say perhaps he should have played a warm up tournament? I'd understood him to say perhaps he should have played more practice sets but may have got it wrong.
Talking to Cameron & Co must have been very stressful no matter what Andy's political opinions are given that they appeared to behave like a bunch of school kids, especially Cameron, although he is a genuine tennis fan.  I think he won some big tournie at Eton. 

I may have picked Andy up wrongly too Ruthie, but whatever it was he said, he still felt he hadn't prepared enough for this tournament.


No I think you'll find the best player in the world is playing,  the second best player in the world currently is not.  So is Andy not going to have a say about where he finishes the year??  He has plenty of points he can gain after the USO.  That is just a ludicrous post......
Well said, MM.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 08:15 PM
Posted by: Murray Magic
Fair enough.  Getting to number 1 doesn't appear to be all that important. But this puts a lot of pressure on Andy when the Slams come along. Meanwhile the best 2 players in the world are battling it out tonight in the semis of a Master 1000 event. Try telling them being number 1 isn't a big deal. One of these guys will be world number 1 at the end of the year and the other will be number 2.

No I think you'll find the best player in the world is playing,  the second best player in the world currently is not.  So is Andy not going to have a say about where he finishes the year??  He has plenty of points he can gain after the USO.  That is just a ludicrous post......
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 08:10 PM
Posted by: BigNose
Fair enough.  Getting to number 1 doesn't appear to be all that important. But this puts a lot of pressure on Andy when the Slams come along. Meanwhile the best 2 players in the world are battling it out tonight in the semis of a Master 1000 event. Try telling them being number 1 isn't a big deal. One of these guys will be world number 1 at the end of the year and the other will be number 2.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 06:14 PM
Posted by: syc23
In some ways I wonder if dealing with the aftermath of winning a major is almost as much of a learning curve as winning a major itself.

I don't want to sound like I'm patronising Andy because I'm not, but in a way it's like he's not used to winning majors yet - assuming you ever do get used to it. Maybe Andy is just still learning how to deal with the aftermath, what to do after. Also, he'd done something neither Fed, Nadal or Djokovic will ever be confronted with the prospect of doing, winning a home major. That must be huge. The fact that no other British man had done it for so long says it all. Add in that Wimbledon is widely regarded as the pinnacle of the sport, it would be a strange person indeed to achieve it and not show some sort of reaction.

I just think the fact that Andy has won an Olympic gold and two majors, and been a runner up in two major finals as well, all in the space of the last 12 months, tells you all you need to know about him. If the down side of that is that he sometimes loses the odd match in a Masters, then so be it. At the risk of repeating myself, look at his win/loss ratio this year. He is not losing every week, it's not a habit, and some of us painting it as if it is a habit, is wrong.

Couldn't agree more.

If I were to trade winning more Masters 1000s and getting no.1 versus more slams then, it's more slams everytime. When Roger, Rafa, Nole and Andy all retire (which will be a sad, sad day when it comes), people will pretty much judge their greatness by how many slams they finish with.

People will forget the Marcelo RĂ­os and Dinara Safinas of this world, talented players who has ascended to world no.1 position but didn't 'fulfill' their potential because of the inability to win one of the 4 majors.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 04:46 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
[email protected]:  I think there was a hint of that in what Andy has been saying about never having experienced anything like that before.  40 odd interviews in two days on virtually no sleep + having to make small talk to all the main party leaders! 
Aileen: did Andy actually say perhaps he should have played a warm up tournament? I'd understood him to say perhaps he should have played more practice sets but may have got it wrong.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 01:05 PM
Posted by: teejay1
What a shame the doubles is not being televised. I would have enjoyed seeing the boys in the semi's today. All the best to them both cmon yeah.
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
Posted by: sidtypical
At least he is still in the doubles with Colin Fleming. Come on boys I hope you win today.
cmon yeah
Posted on: August 10, 2013, 12:28 PM
Posted by: Littlebuddha
At least he is still in the doubles with Colin Fleming. Come on boys I hope you win today.