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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #45 on: June 13, 2012, 09:51 PM »
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I have no words, this was so so so painful.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #46 on: June 13, 2012, 10:01 PM »
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^ Were you there topspin? 

What Andy says: http://www1.skysports.com/news/12040/7811157/
 
"It's panic stations now. I've just got no chance to be ready for Wimbledon. It's going to be impossible, I think," the world number four said sarcastically.
 
"This kind if thing happens often. Novak Djokovic isn't playing the next two weeks so there is no need for me to panic.
 
"I lost the match 7-6 in the third in my first game of the tournament and it takes a bit of time to adjust to the grass courts."
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #47 on: June 13, 2012, 10:02 PM »
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It occurs to me that this loss could be a blessing in disguise for Andy.  Given the weather forecast for the next few days, this tournament looks set to continue to be seriously rain-interrupted.  If nothing else at least Andy knows exactly where he is - no hanging around wondering when and if he'll be able to play - which will leave him free to focus on training or further practice.

I can recall that Nole didn't play a warmup tournament before Wimby last year and he didn't do too badly. Fed and Rafa have either tanked early or pulled out of 250s so it may be a blessing with less pressure on the run up to Wimby.

People seem to forget that Mahut is a decent grass court player and came close to beating Roddick and have beaten Rafa on grass. Don't forget that epic match against Isner which gave Mahut the belief that he could hang with some of the top guys.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #48 on: June 13, 2012, 10:06 PM »
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Don't forget that epic match against Isner...
Aye.. that's what I said yesterday.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #49 on: June 13, 2012, 10:36 PM »
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I don't think we should panic about Andy's longterm future every time he loses a match - especially not matches at 250 events. It's not like he was blown off the court anyway - 7-6 in the third in a match where he wasn't playing his best tennis is a decent result.

I'm not reading any significance into this match for his chances at Wimbledon. He always raises his level in the slams and I think he will again this time. So often when players hire new coaches, there's a period where the player gets poor results but then everything clicks into place. I still think this summer is going to be a good one for Andy. Smile
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #50 on: June 13, 2012, 11:03 PM »
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^ Were you there topspin? 

What Andy says: http://www1.skysports.com/news/12040/7811157/
 
"It's panic stations now. I've just got no chance to be ready for Wimbledon. It's going to be impossible, I think," the world number four said sarcastically.
 
"This kind if thing happens often. Novak Djokovic isn't playing the next two weeks so there is no need for me to panic.
 
"I lost the match 7-6 in the third in my first game of the tournament and it takes a bit of time to adjust to the grass courts."

  Refreshing to hear Andy talking like this to the Press. Sometimes I feel he's a bit too guarded in his comments. This gets it just right, i think.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #51 on: June 13, 2012, 11:43 PM »
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Refreshing to hear Andy talking like this to the Press. Sometimes I feel he's a bit too guarded in his comments. This gets it just right, i think.
I agree.  If only a few more top players could be so honest instead of repeatedly uttering the same old platitudes they think their fans and the media want to hear.

Andy must be sick to the back teeth of all the doom and gloom that follows defeats like this.  Yes I know I was one of them in the heat of the moment, but having had time to reflect, there's sense in what Andy says.  He could, after all, have been beaten by a youngster ranked just inside the top 200 instead of a seasoned veteran like Mahut who is perfectly at home on grass and who, like so many of his ilk, appear to be enjoying an end-of-career purple patch.

I'm glad to know that he's hoping to play a couple of expos though.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #52 on: June 14, 2012, 12:00 AM »
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Glad to see Andy is taking a stand at some of the comments from the press and elsewhere.  He didn't win today but it was a good effort for his first match on grass this year.  I wonder what the reaction would have been from the media if Andy had fallen and hurt his back and missed Wimbledon and the Olympics, I can just see the headlines @Andy sacrifices Wimbledon for a 250 tournament' or ' Andy lets Team GB down in pursuit of ranking points'  he just can't win and I just wish the media would calm themselves and support Andy..........I think some on MW could do the same.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #53 on: June 14, 2012, 12:12 AM »
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Indeed, Iris - Andy's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  Would any one of us like to be in his shoes??
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #54 on: June 14, 2012, 12:15 AM »
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^Not for all the money in the world Aileen.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #55 on: June 14, 2012, 12:52 AM »
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Andy was probably in a no win situation where a few days ago, had he decided to pull out of Queens to rest up some more there would be more pressure heaped on him.

Playing and bowing out early is not ideal but what if he played on a things took a turn for the worse? If people were to choose, they would rather if Andy took a hit of not being able to defend 250 points at the expense of saving his body for Wimbledon, Olympics and USO.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #56 on: June 14, 2012, 01:24 AM »
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Andy was probably in a no win situation where a few days ago, had he decided to pull out of Queens to rest up some more there would be more pressure heaped on him.

Playing and bowing out early is not ideal but what if he played on a things took a turn for the worse? If people were to choose, they would rather if Andy took a hit of not being able to defend 250 points at the expense of saving his body for Wimbledon, Olympics and USO.
Andy definitely found the grass slippery.  Even the comms agreed that it probably was, particularly behind the baseline, and the skid-marks in this photo back that up.





Just to jog memories:  At Queens 2008 Andy slipped on a patch of damp grass during his R2 match against Gulbis, spraining his right thumb.  Although he went on to win it, he then withdrew from the tournament, but still managed to reach the QF at Wimbledon.  True, Mahut was faced with the same problem, but had nothing to lose.  Andy has a heck of a lot to lose, so why risk injury or aggravating his back problem here?  Damp grass is pretty much akin to ice.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #57 on: June 14, 2012, 03:11 AM »
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Murray should maybe play some of those exos before Wimbledon begins, just to get in a bit more match practice. It was a close match, but the last tiebreak was a shame. Just too many errors, and it's over before you know it.

Hope he comes back stronger!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #58 on: June 14, 2012, 03:14 AM »
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Oh I see from scotnadian that this is already Murray's plan - to play a couple exos - perfect. Great minds think alike and all. Wink. Murray will be fine. Mahut is a tough first rounder.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #59 on: June 14, 2012, 06:04 AM »
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I think this summarises what a few have you have mentioned on here.

Andy Murray will not panic after shock defeat at Queen's

Andy Murray insists his shock defeat by Nicolas Mahut at the Aegon Championships will have no impact on his chances of winning Wimbledon.

The defending champion lost 6-3 6-7 (4-7) 7-6 (7-1) but does not intend to play another tournament before the season's third Grand Slam on 25 June.

"There is no need for me to panic," he said. "It takes a bit of time to adjust to the grass courts.

"I need a few days to get my movement right and then I'll play better."

Murray is highly unlikely to enter the Aegon International at Eastbourne next week but may feature in exhibition events at Stoke Park or the Hurlingham Club.

"I'll discuss with the guys over the next couple of days as to what I'm going to do, whether I play one or two exhibition matches next week.

"It's unlikely I would play a tournament but I'll probably try to get a couple more matches. I just need to spend more time on the grass."

Murray, competing on the surface for the first time this year, rarely looked comfortable in his defeat by the world number 65.

Mahut took the first set with one break of serve and although Murray hit back to edge the second, the Frenchman dominated the third-set tie-break.

Although Mahut has never lifted a title on the ATP World Tour, he came within a point of winning Queen's in 2007 - beating Rafael Nadal along the way.

He was also involved in the longest match in tennis history when he lost 6-4 3-6 6-7 (7-9) 7-6 (7-3) 70-68 to John Isner in the first round of Wimbledon 2010.

"He's a very good grass-court player," Murray said. "He's been in the final here, he's beaten Nadal and been a point away from winning the tournament.

"He played well today. It wasn't like I went out on the court, got blown away and played horribly."

The only time Murray had fallen before the last 16 in six previous appearances at Queen's was against Janko Tipsarevic in 2006.

But Mahut, who beat Guillermo Garcia-Lopez in the first round on Tuesday, appeared to have made the transition from clay to grass much more smoothly than Murray.

"I have never really had a problem with [the transition] before, but also that's probably one of the toughest first matches I've played here," continued the Scot.

"I did struggle with my movement, especially earlier on in the match. That's something that I will need to improve."

Mahut said: "It was a big advantage [playing on Tuesday]. This was his first match. It's never easy to start on the grass when you played two months on clay.

"Even if he had three or four practice days on the grass, it's not easy. I was ready to compete against a top player. Even if he's world number four, it's not easy to come on Centre Court with everyone expecting him to win."


On the plus side, I had a tidy up of my dvd/video cabinet whilst waiting for Andy's match to start and found more recordings of his matches than I thought I had Very Happy

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