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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #60 on: June 14, 2012, 07:24 AM »
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Thanks for that Bev! Having read Mr. Mahut's comments, he's going on my 'favourites' list!  Very Happy
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #61 on: June 14, 2012, 09:27 AM »
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Having spent the last few days catching up on the posts re: Andy's  French Open campaign and now these new comments re: Queens. I feel some of my MW colleagues are unduely harsh and critical of him. He made the quarters of the French but lost to ferrer who just happens to be a clay court specialist. Granted last year he made the semis beating Chela the round before. Hardly Ferrer! Additionally he was troubled by a back complaint that almost derailed him in round two. All this after he lost his French Open exhibition match to Gulbis. So should we therefore all be reaching for the nearest set of razor blades or hangmans noose just because he lost in the first round of Queens? I think not. I for one trust Andy. If he says he is not panicking then I won't either. No significance should be drawn from this latest result, we would all do well to give it the relevant objective perspective the result requires.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #62 on: June 14, 2012, 09:39 AM »
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He's in a better place than he was in 2010 and he made the semis in 2010 dropping less sets than he did in 2009/2011 when he won queens.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #63 on: June 14, 2012, 09:40 AM »
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Having spent the last few days catching up on the posts re: Andy's  French Open campaign and now these new comments re: Queens. I feel some of my MW colleagues are unduely harsh and critical of him. He made the quarters of the French but lost to ferrer who just happens to be a clay court specialist. Granted last year he made the semis beating Chela the round before. Hardly Ferrer! Additionally he was troubled by a back complaint that almost derailed him in round two. All this after he lost his French Open exhibition match to Gulbis. So should we therefore all be reaching for the nearest set of razor blades or hangmans noose just because he lost in the first round of Queens? I think not. I for one trust Andy. If he says he is not panicking then I won't either. No significance should be drawn from this latest result, we would all do well to give it the relevant objective perspective the result requires.

Good, very balanced post. Let's also not forget that in this tournament other seeds seem to be dropping like flies. This is also meant to be a sport played by human beings, some of whom will simply have "off days". I find the Grand Slams incredibly boring in that at the moment, you can predict with a fair degree of accuracy who will be in the final. It might be heresay, but if you could predict that Murray was going to win every time he set foot on a court, I would probably get very bored and stop watching. His unpredictability is part of his charm (plus his frustration).
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #64 on: June 14, 2012, 09:51 AM »
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Having spent the last few days catching up on the posts re: Andy's  French Open campaign and now these new comments re: Queens. I feel some of my MW colleagues are unduely harsh and critical of him. He made the quarters of the French but lost to ferrer who just happens to be a clay court specialist. Granted last year he made the semis beating Chela the round before. Hardly Ferrer! Additionally he was troubled by a back complaint that almost derailed him in round two. All this after he lost his French Open exhibition match to Gulbis. So should we therefore all be reaching for the nearest set of razor blades or hangmans noose just because he lost in the first round of Queens? I think not. I for one trust Andy. If he says he is not panicking then I won't either. No significance should be drawn from this latest result, we would all do well to give it the relevant objective perspective the result requires.
I agree PT! I'm not panicking...... nervous    Seriously though......I hate all the negative posts!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #65 on: June 14, 2012, 10:22 AM »
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Good, very balanced post. Let's also not forget that in this tournament other seeds seem to be dropping like flies. This is also meant to be a sport played by human beings, some of whom will simply have "off days". I find the Grand Slams incredibly boring in that at the moment, you can predict with a fair degree of accuracy who will be in the final. It might be heresay, but if you could predict that Murray was going to win every time he set
I agree PT! I'm not panicking...... nervous    Seriously though......I hate all the negative posts!
foot on a court, I would probably get very bored and stop watching. His unpredictability is part of his charm (plus his frustration).
Totally agree with both your comments Masaka and Caz . It does appear that arguably you can predict that in the majors at least who will be turning up in the final, although great players. Rafa and Nole play a brand of tennis although exciting in its shot making prowess can get a little one dimensional. I suppose that's why I love watching Andy, because he is not one dimensional. He is human, and by this very definition subject to human frailties.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #66 on: June 14, 2012, 10:25 AM »
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Having spent the last few days catching up on the posts re: Andy's  French Open campaign and now these new comments re: Queens. I feel some of my MW colleagues are unduely harsh and critical of him. He made the quarters of the French but lost to ferrer who just happens to be a clay court specialist. Granted last year he made the semis beating Chela the round before. Hardly Ferrer! Additionally he was troubled by a back complaint that almost derailed him in round two. All this after he lost his French Open exhibition match to Gulbis. So should we therefore all be reaching for the nearest set of razor blades or hangmans noose just because he lost in the first round of Queens? I think not. I for one trust Andy. If he says he is not panicking then I won't either. No significance should be drawn from this latest result, we would all do well to give it the relevant objective perspective the result requires.
    clap  Good posting!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #67 on: June 14, 2012, 10:35 AM »
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The fact that Murray was slipping and sliding much more than Mahut indicates that perhaps he needs to change his shoes !!!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #68 on: June 14, 2012, 10:40 AM »
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Hi, missed the match as I was out. Not surprised he lost, for some reason I had a bad feeling about this tournament. Sorry he lost, but a bit of stress free tennis won't hurt. The worse bit is reading the comments on here and in the press. Try to get things in perspective folks, kids are being massacred in Syria, abused on the streets of Britain, and people are worried out of their minds in Greece. Murray, lost a tennis match - not really in the same league. Perhaps his back is still not right, perhaps he is having personal problems. Who knows. The other top players don't often lose these sort of matches. I see them as automatons. People can chose to support them. If you follow Murray this sort of thing is what you can expect. Don't then complain because that is what happens. He has still achieved more than any other British tennis player in the last 70 years. Perhaps he is going to have a duff year and drop a few places in the rankings.  He still has a few years left in him. He is not exactly facing a challenge for Britains no 1 tennis player is he?  Leave the poor sod alone. Apologiesn if this offends anyone, but this is not the end of the world.
   Good posting!

Wow some people need to calm down a bit lol. Too much talk of Murray losing it and will now have a slide down the rankings. Not going to happen. He's still quite a bit ahead in the points and a class apart from the other players behind him.

Yes it's a shame he lost, but Mahut played outstandingly well and deserved to win as he's a tricky opponent on any surface (he took a set off Federer at the French I believe and did well at the Aussie open). And lets face it, while Queens is a prestigious tournament it's not a grand slam. In terms of the overal tour it's a rinky dink 250 event on the lowest rung of the main ladder. Lots of other seeds are falling in the switch from clay to grass so no need to panic.

The way I look at things at the moment is that Murray needs to sort his head out a little bit. His game is comparable with the top three, his mental ability isn't but Lendl will help with that (as he's been their and done it). However, that's going to take a bit of time. You can't just undo Murray's 25 years of thinking / behaving one way in six months (and Lendl has been out of the game for 15 odd years so needs to learn too).

Also, Murray has several years ahead of him at the top of the game (if injuries stay away and he tackles a few of aforementioned mental demons) nobody is really coming through on the men's side. Milos Raonic has potential on fast courts but other than him there's nobody (sorry but I don't rate Tomic) because of the way the game is progressing (with more and more players making breakthroughs in their early to mid twenties rather than as teenage prodigies).

Murray will have his time yet. I still have faith. He'll get his slam. Whether it be this year or the next.

And if he doesn't well look at it this way; Murray is the next step in the progression of the British game. He's a step up in class (and an evolution) from the likes of Henman and Rusedski and what was before them. Murray will obviously win a lot more tournaments yet but now, in the future and when he retires junior players will look at his career and want to better it (hopefully they'll be an evolution of the way Murray plays and go on to win even more than he has). By the time Murray's finished playing he'll have done a lot for British tennis and for the sport as a whole whether he has a slam or not. In the end that'll be a damn well decent way to end a career if you ask me.
Good posting!

Whilst I absolutely love this site, there are times such as today that it does my nut in!!   Whilst I am a stalwart Muzza fan I am not blind to his shortcomings.  But let's put things in perspective, Andy is obviously concentrating his efforts on the Grand Slams, yes this was bitterly dissapointing, but hey it's a tennis match which in the big scheme of things has little relevance to his overall plans.  I am sure his team will have a contingency plan in place.  His game is very much in transition just now and this cannot be easy to change a lifetime of habits and learn to play in a new style. He is obviously trying to find the right balance, yes his performance was lacklustre, error strewn but there were small bits of play that were high quality, so he has not lost it, class is permanent and form is temporary.

I think some posters on here need to exercise a bit of perspective, we cannot control Andy's destiny, only he and his team can do that, good job really cos if some of today's posters were controlling him, I fear they may, after today, put him out to grass and retirement!!!

I have this sneaky feeling that at some point this year, a surprise will be sprung and it may well come good. 

At the end of the day, it is part and parcel of being a Murray fan, the highs, the lows, right now things are low, but our boy is nae quitter and he will be doing everything to get himself right back up there.

Remember when Djoko was going through his period of transition, he was being written off by the media, pundits etc now look at him - ruling the tennis world.  Keep the faith, hey it may never happen but then again it might just and I for one am prepared to take my seat on the Murray Coaster, in the hope that I can witness that day.

Onwards and Upwards MW.....
.   Good posting! I really love some people . After so many negative postings yesterday I don't feel like 
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #69 on: June 14, 2012, 11:37 AM »
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I guess Andy 's not too impressed with the green grass of home. Sad loss and to another frenchman
Who would you rather loose to? Not so much the who as the number he holds. #65??? He is back to where we were 2 or 3 years ago, loosing to middle of the top 100. What's up here?
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #70 on: June 14, 2012, 11:58 AM »
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He's in a better place than he was in 2010 and he made the semis in 2010 dropping less sets than he did in 2009/2011 when he won queens.

Now that's a fair opinion, but what factors are you basing it on?
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #71 on: June 14, 2012, 12:01 PM »
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In the meantime, I would urge ye all to stay calm. He has always done well at Wimbledon. Even before he hit puberty, he reached R32.

Perhaps this defeat will extinguish expectations and mean he will fly under the radar going into the tournament.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #72 on: June 14, 2012, 12:14 PM »
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Perhaps this defeat will extinguish expectations and mean he will fly under the radar going into the tournament.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #73 on: June 14, 2012, 12:18 PM »
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #74 on: June 14, 2012, 12:19 PM »
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Perhaps this defeat will extinguish expectations and mean he will fly under the radar going into the tournament.
That's exactly what I was thinking too. yes
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