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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #90 on: June 14, 2012, 01:35 PM »
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Can Lendl do that with future opponents too?
That would be good. lol "Here's what you will do: aim for the back boards at the end of the court and/or hit the ball an inch or two below the top of the net."
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #91 on: June 14, 2012, 01:36 PM »
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Great post MM. You must be feeling better and ready for the cold beer now, eh? Wink
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #92 on: June 14, 2012, 01:42 PM »
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Been meaning to say - how is it that Murray Magic manages to say exactly what I am thinking and trying to say, but manages to express it so much better than me...!!!  I always enjoy your posts. I agree with everything you say, particularly about supporting a human, rather than a robot.
. Well said  Masaka exactly what I was thinking,  M.M. Well done again ,   clap clap clap
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #93 on: June 14, 2012, 01:45 PM »
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i think a lot of the people that post endlessly here about everyone else
's complaints and how they should get it into perspective are often the ones that are using this to vent themselves & get everything into perspective in their own way.
I'm well aware that tennis is not comparable to a syrian massacre.
Being critical of Andy Murray is also not a big deal.
Some people have a different way of supporting a player including trying to think of ways that would give them more success.
Because we care and want him to achieve what is clearly his most cherished dream.
Not just blindly supporting them regardless of how ridiculous their behaviour can be.
Now I'm pretty centred & objective about all of this & i can see the glass as half empty and half full but honestly if we are all adults then surely its not a big deal if we offer a bit of constructive criticism in our discussions or what is the point of having a forum.
Anything less is simply delusion.
Also for the record I'm not going for anyone in particular but more this prevasive vibe here that you aren't allowed to say anything objective about Andy.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #94 on: June 14, 2012, 01:58 PM »
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i think a lot of the people that post endlessly here about everyone else
's complaints and how they should get it into perspective are often the ones that are using this to vent themselves & get everything into perspective in their own way.
I'm well aware that tennis is not comparable to a syrian massacre.
Being critical of Andy Murray is also not a big deal.
Some people have a different way of supporting a player including trying to think of ways that would give them more success.
Because we care and want him to achieve what is clearly his most cherished dream.
Not just blindly supporting them regardless of how ridiculous their behaviour can be.
Now I'm pretty centred & objective about all of this & i can see the glass as half empty and half full but honestly if we are all adults then surely its not a big deal if we offer a bit of constructive criticism in our discussions or what is the point of having a forum.
Anything less is simply delusion.

I am not blind to Andy's shortcomings and support him come hell or high water but am still able to be objective and apply a bit of sensible perspective.  Sure these are bad times re. his recent results etc. but I do believe that it will come good and that the impact of Lendl will be apparent soon.  I am not a blind supporter in any way - I am a supporter and sometimes a bit of a manic one but as you rightly point out there are different ways of showing your support and that is what makes MW such an intersting forum to participate in.  However, some of the comments yesterday were bordering on the bizarre!!!!  But it is always interesting to me to read everyone's point of view and then express my own.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #95 on: June 14, 2012, 02:24 PM »
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I am not blind to Andy's shortcomings and support him come hell or high water but am still able to be objective and apply a bit of sensible perspective.  Sure these are bad times re. his recent results etc. but I do believe that it will come good and that the impact of Lendl will be apparent soon.  I am not a blind supporter in any way - I am a supporter and sometimes a bit of a manic one but as you rightly point out there are different ways of showing your support and that is what makes MW such an intersting forum to participate in.  However, some of the comments yesterday were bordering on the bizarre!!!!  But it is always interesting to me to read everyone's point of view and then express my own.

Sure i hear you MM.
And i also agree with you about Lendl in particular.
They are doing exactly what is required to get Andy to the next stage.
But it was never going to be easy.
And you are also obviously correct. The negativity here is sometimes over the top and completely irrational!
But what bothers me more is the fans of other players, some of them, that pretend they are real fans & post doom laden prophecies of Andy's decline in order to satisfy their barely concealed pleasure at his misfortunes.
That really gets on my nerves.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #96 on: June 14, 2012, 04:21 PM »
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I love MM's posts as they are so sane and encouraging.  I was one of those who stupidly siad that Andy perhaps should play as he used to but I actually meant that he played so well at the AO and Asian swing but also know that he needs something more and that it takes time for a new things to happen.  Some things have to give for a while when you change something else.

I remember when I was a swimmer and a new way of turning came in, instead of winning as I used to do I began to lose but it all fell into place eventually when I stopped thinkiong about the turns and they became second nature.  I am sure this will happen for Andy as you cannot keep someone with his talent down.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #97 on: June 14, 2012, 04:24 PM »
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Constructive criticism is ok by me.......It's the destructive criticism I don't like! That doesn't help anyone.......except perhaps the trolls!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #98 on: June 14, 2012, 04:31 PM »
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Nick Faldo's change of swing anyone?
Worked out for him.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #99 on: June 14, 2012, 04:59 PM »
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Tsonga out well well,   maybe  Andy wasn't so bad !!!!!!!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #100 on: June 14, 2012, 05:02 PM »
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In your case Helicopter .... glad your still among the living.
Hey Robbie...missed you Dude! I'm still vertical! Busy here; may have to find a new place to go..tired of the Portuguese "thing"! Tennis has been interesting. NO? I got the kids practicing on the patio and against the wall on our house. Kinda like the practice court I had at LSU oh-so many years ago, net painted on the wall thing. They'll be giving Andy a run for his money soon!
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #101 on: June 14, 2012, 05:08 PM »
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Both Tsonga (Dodig, 64 places below him), and Mahut out today. Given Tsonga played Baker yesterday, who was 198 places below him it does put Murray's performance yesterday in perspective. One wonders whether Tsonga will get the same level of hassle and vitriol from his fans on his site (assuming he has one). Like many of us fair comments don't bother me. It is the nastiness that gets to me. If we read similar type comments on a kids website, some of us would be complaining of some form of cyber bullying. If that is me over reacting to some comments, so be it.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #102 on: June 14, 2012, 05:27 PM »
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Both Tsonga (Dodig, 64 places below him), and Mahut out today. Given Tsonga played Baker yesterday, who was 198 places below him it does put Murray's performance yesterday in perspective. One wonders whether Tsonga will get the same level of hassle and vitriol from his fans on his site (assuming he has one). Like many of us fair comments don't bother me. It is the nastiness that gets to me. If we read similar type comments on a kids website, some of us would be complaining of some form of cyber bullying. If that is me over reacting to some comments, so be it.
I agree Masaka certainly puts a different take on yesterday!!! for me also yesterday when I first logged on I thought I was on a anyone but Murray web site !! Just don't understand it.
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #103 on: June 14, 2012, 05:42 PM »
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 shocking shocking shocking shocking shocking shocking shocking shocking shocking

i totally cant believe this!!!! i didnt watch the match so i dont really know how badly he played and dont wanna know also......still in shock!!!
is this our ANDY MURRAY who lost?????
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Re: Mahut storms past Murray « Reply #104 on: June 14, 2012, 05:59 PM »
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Andy has his eye firmly on the main events of this wonderful summer of sport.  He played his RG QF against Ferrer and his first match on London grass against Mahut with a fair degree of containment.  When Andy isn't moving well he isn't playing well and he spent most of his time yesterday testing his footing on the treacherous slippery turf.  Similarly he wasn't able to express himself freely during the clay season, clearly hampered by pain and his awareness of not wanting to make things worse than they already were, 

He is fast approaching the tennis pinnacle not only of 2012 but of his career, having to manage his physical ailments as well as he possibly can with an eagle eye on giving his all where it really matters - the premier grand slam at Wimbledon and the mother of all Olympic tennis tournaments, again at Wimbledon.  This is it for Andy - there will never be another opportunity for him to shine quite like this again.  He is the right age, not too young, nor too old, he has the experience, he has the talent, but unfortunately he also has those pesky niggles. 

So he has to be economic with his movements, his schedule, his training, his practice, his matchplay.  All this at a time when he is courageously incorporating Lendl-driven changes into his already-phenomenal game in order to push himself to lift those glittering trophies. 

I have nothing but admiration for Andy, unlike the knockers and critics, most shamefully the bitter green-eyed monsters who sit in TV studios and press rooms knocking him and belittling him at every opportunity.  God knows how he puts up with it but we are so lucky he does.  Every time he goes out of a tournament it dies a death, he brings so much to the sport with his sheer presence, not to mention his brilliant play and  of course the drama. 

I have a feeling Andy is well up for the challenges imminently ahead and, injuries permitting, he will go flat out to achieve his and our dreams.   
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