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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #30 on: November 11, 2011, 07:17 PM »
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No it wasn't. You are way too harsh. Berdych played very well. Andy's serve went AWOL again and when that happens, he struggles, we all know that.
However, after a 3 hour marathon with some twinges lurking, there's no way he'd have beaten Fed, so that's good. Hope Tsonga takes it anyway.
To the WTF we come. Onward and upward.
Absolutely agree bbh but doesn't take long before boogers' negativity reasserts itself does it so no surprise there then.  Andy fought right to the end.  Berdych played some great tennis (as well as many errors) and it could have gone either way.  Funny isn't it how the verdict on his own fans' site is harsher than that of the more 'objective' comms after the match.  If his elbow was a problem, then that would have affected the serve.  I'm just hoping it proves a blessing in disguise when it comes to 02 as ultimately more important that he wins there than here.
Glad I kept off mw during the match.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #31 on: November 11, 2011, 07:19 PM »
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How far did the Fed get last year. He didnt win it so if he wins this year how many points does he gain? There is less than 200 points between them now I am concerned with it being so close Andy will put alot of pressure on himself at the WTF. I know pressure will be on Fed to but he is so smug it doesnt affect him so much.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #32 on: November 11, 2011, 07:20 PM »
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I really thought that Andy had stepped up a level after the Asian swing series of 3 wins. OK his winning steak had to come to an end at some point but it was the return of all the self destructive mannerisms, the swearing, abusing your box, the chunttering etc that was disappointing. I really feel he needs to be mentally stronger at crucial points, e.g. the dispute over the change of balls got to him far too much and affected his game.
 


















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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #33 on: November 11, 2011, 07:31 PM »
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Oh can we give the lad a break.  I somehow don't think that when smugfed loses a match after a brilliant winning streak his fans are immediately on to him with their criticisms on federersworld or whatever.    w00t
And wouldn't we all have given our right arms for what he's achieved these last few months when we were in the slough of despond in those dark post-AO months.  The important thing is that Andy has refound the hunger to win. And I'm just hoping that he can do so at 02.  If he does then he'll certainly end up #3.  If Fed wins both then he'll be back to #3 so much as I dislike berdych I hope he beats smugfed tomorrow and that JWT then beats him to win the tournament as he'd be a worthy winner. And so pleased that JWT will be in London.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #34 on: November 11, 2011, 07:37 PM »
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #35 on: November 11, 2011, 07:40 PM »
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What Andy says:
http://www.tennistv.com/page/Video/0,,11444~1874095,00.html
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #36 on: November 11, 2011, 07:50 PM »
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We're mostly fans on this forum but I do wish that we can raise ourselves beyond blyth and unquestioning adoration, as appears to be the reponse from some  to any form of criticism, however constructive, of our hero!  Come on, being positive is one thing, being critical of others who make an honest if critical observation of our hero is still allowable or is it?  From what I saw of the match it was the mental side of Andy's game that was wanting, far more than the technical side even if his first serve was misfiring. So please do not drown out us fans who wish to make a valid point by calls that we are being unfair as we all wish the best for Andy.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #37 on: November 11, 2011, 08:07 PM »
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We're mostly fans on this forum but I do wish that we can raise ourselves beyond blyth and unquestioning adoration, as appears to be the reponse from some  to any form of criticism, however constructive, of our hero!  Come on, being positive is one thing, being critical of others who make an honest if critical observation of our hero is still allowable or is it?  From what I saw of the match it was the mental side of Andy's game that was wanting, far more than the technical side even if his first serve was misfiring. So please do not drown out us fans who wish to make a valid point by calls that we are being unfair as we all wish the best for Andy.

I so agree.  Mental let him down today.  Old Andy revisited and I so wanted the new Andy to stay - sob, sob, sob
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #38 on: November 11, 2011, 08:11 PM »
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Well sad day but he will recover from this glitch.Hopefully he is on his way home to surrey,his own bed,Maggie and Rusty and not last by any means Kim.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #39 on: November 11, 2011, 08:27 PM »
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Absolutely agree bbh but doesn't take long before boogers' negativity reasserts itself does it so no surprise there then.  Andy fought right to the end.  Berdych played some great tennis (as well as many errors) and it could have gone either way.  Funny isn't it how the verdict on his own fans' site is harsher than that of the more 'objective' comms after the match.  If his elbow was a problem, then that would have affected the serve.  I'm just hoping it proves a blessing in disguise when it comes to 02 as ultimately more important that he wins there than here.
Glad I kept off mw during the match.
yes  i agree too, just get of his back, seems to me  some cant wait to start on , he cant play 100% all the time, he has just had an amazing run.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #40 on: November 11, 2011, 08:34 PM »
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Thanks for that, seems positive, the o2 is his goal, and lets face it , not many of the top 5 seem to do to well in Paris they are just worn out this time of the season, they play a lot more than others going deep in each event/ slam.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #41 on: November 11, 2011, 08:45 PM »
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We're mostly fans on this forum but I do wish that we can raise ourselves beyond blyth and unquestioning adoration, as appears to be the reponse from some  to any form of criticism, however constructive, of our hero!  Come on, being positive is one thing, being critical of others who make an honest if critical observation of our hero is still allowable or is it?  From what I saw of the match it was the mental side of Andy's game that was wanting, far more than the technical side even if his first serve was misfiring. So please do not drown out us fans who wish to make a valid point by calls that we are being unfair as we all wish the best for Andy.
No it's not unquestioning adoration ronpon.  And I've had my criticisms of Andy in my time.  But what annoys me is the way some people - and I don't mean you as you're new to mw after all - jump on Andy from a great height the minute he slips up.  And sometimes they do it with such relish that one feels they enjoy the losses more than the wins!  So that might explain why some of us might seem over-defensive.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #42 on: November 11, 2011, 08:51 PM »
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Regarding Andy's altercation with the umpire, Andy was right. Berdych was down on his serve and to suddenly give out new balls mid game is quite wrong. They give the server a massive advantage. No wonder Andy was annoyed, it looks awfully close to cheating to me.
OK perhaps he hung onto it too long, but the decision probably cost Andy that game and for all we know, the match. Pity he didn't send for the tournament referee.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #43 on: November 11, 2011, 08:55 PM »
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Andy will not loose his 3rd position if Fed wins. Andy has 7,200 points and Fed has 5,670.00. If he wins he will gain 1,000 points making his total 6,670.  andy is still 3 has he has not lost any points at the Paris event.

i think he will go home and recoup he was not himself today rather hesitant and serve not good, Coomon Andy get grip and win=.
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Re: Murray bashed out of Paris « Reply #44 on: November 11, 2011, 09:01 PM »
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Me again.  I always feel that when he is not 100% he behaves differently and grunts and moans finding fault with himself. He has not been himself in this event.

Hed will be fine at 02.
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