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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #15 on: June 08, 2011, 09:46 PM »
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Played poorly and won which is good.  All about getting wins and confidence, and peaking near the end of wimby.  Was very tentative throughout and played well within himself.  It was all good really and I am sure he will gradually get better as the week goes on.  Should make the final really.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #16 on: June 08, 2011, 11:13 PM »
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Murray lost the second set purely due to his moodiness in not breaking in the 11th game. He needs to sort his head out.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #17 on: June 08, 2011, 11:36 PM »
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Rubbish article, why is this joke back on the news team? :P
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 01:22 AM »
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Andy played well and the crowd were nice to him. Commentators talked a lot of rubbish on Eurosport though - don't know who they were but they showed him so little respect going on about his attitude and suggesting his injuries are made up. All the players get ill or injured,moan a lot and pull out of things. All the players are grumpy on court - Nadal never smiles on court and in fact keeps his opponent waiting and then jumps about in front of him at the toss like a boxer. He punches the air aggressively all the time and quite often takes long injury breaks. There is an article in the Sunday Times magazine this week suggesting Nadal is not really that nice a guy. And yet he is referred to constantly as a great person and a terrific ambassador for the sport. I once watched Federer swearing really badly at a referee and he is so smug and arrogant. Andy who is always courteous in interviewsand spends hours with the fans signing autographs gets it in the neck all the time. It is so unfair and it says a lot for Andy that he doesn't let it get to him.  ranting
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #19 on: June 09, 2011, 04:35 AM »
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Very true MT.  I didn't hear the commentators but agree with the rest.
Thanks for the report, Sir P.   I could only get live scores today.
Well done, Andy!!!!  
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #20 on: June 09, 2011, 09:47 AM »
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Andy played well and the crowd were nice to him. Commentators talked a lot of rubbish on Eurosport though - don't know who they were but they showed him so little respect going on about his attitude and suggesting his injuries are made up. All the players get ill or injured,moan a lot and pull out of things. All the players are grumpy on court - Nadal never smiles on court and in fact keeps his opponent waiting and then jumps about in front of him at the toss like a boxer. He punches the air aggressively all the time and quite often takes long injury breaks. There is an article in the Sunday Times magazine this week suggesting Nadal is not really that nice a guy. And yet he is referred to constantly as a great person and a terrific ambassador for the sport. I once watched Federer swearing really badly at a referee and he is so smug and arrogant. Andy who is always courteous in interviewsand spends hours with the fans signing autographs gets it in the neck all the time. It is so unfair and it says a lot for Andy that he doesn't let it get to him.  ranting
Alot of truth in that MT though Rafa does come across as a genuinely modest and nice guy off court unlike smugfed. 
Couldn't watch the match as in London but have recorded highlights and it was good to read a full and positive match report so thanks for that Andrew.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #21 on: June 09, 2011, 10:11 AM »
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Watched on the red button so I had Castle and LLoydy!

Great to see Andy on the green again. He just fits there, don't you think. Looks so right.

Thought he played well but worried about what he said about the important thing being to get fit for Wimbledon and while playing on it wasn't making the ankle worse, it wasn't getting better. bit worrying.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 12:15 PM »
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Andy played well and the crowd were nice to him. Commentators talked a lot of rubbish on Eurosport though - don't know who they were but they showed him so little respect going on about his attitude and suggesting his injuries are made up. All the players get ill or injured,moan a lot and pull out of things. All the players are grumpy on court - Nadal never smiles on court and in fact keeps his opponent waiting and then jumps about in front of him at the toss like a boxer. He punches the air aggressively all the time and quite often takes long injury breaks. There is an article in the Sunday Times magazine this week suggesting Nadal is not really that nice a guy. And yet he is referred to constantly as a great person and a terrific ambassador for the sport. I once watched Federer swearing really badly at a referee and he is so smug and arrogant. Andy who is always courteous in interviewsand spends hours with the fans signing autographs gets it in the neck all the time. It is so unfair and it says a lot for Andy that he doesn't let it get to him.  ranting
Good posting! Agree with all you said.  Not saying that Rafa is not a nice guy, but to call him an ambassador for the sport is a step to far for me. Strange the commentators never ridicule him over picking at his bum all the time, if that was Andy who had that tic, well, we would never hear the end of it.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 12:22 PM »
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Good posting! Agree with all you said.  Not saying that Rafa is not a nice guy, but to call him an ambassador for the sport is a step to far for me. Strange the commentators never ridicule him over picking at his bum all the time, if that was Andy who had that tic, well, we would never hear the end of it.

See I'd disagree, Rafa does a lot for the sport on and off-court, and while Andy does his bit too, Rafa is getting more involved in young tennis players in Spain and the tennis academy. Also with 10 grand slams under his belt, he is naturally an ambassador for the sport and doesn't stint the press when it comes to interviews etc, which is why for the most part they keep out of his private life Smile
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 12:37 PM »
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Good posting! Agree with all you said.  Not saying that Rafa is not a nice guy, but to call him an ambassador for the sport is a step to far for me. Strange the commentators never ridicule him over picking at his bum all the time, if that was Andy who had that tic, well, we would never hear the end of it.

Finally people are waking up to the fact that Rafa's off court behaviour is carefully constructed to show him in the best possible light, while his oncourt antics perhaps betray who he really is as a person. Just as arrogant if not more so than FEDex and Nolly. I've long since held this opinion about Rafa, thats why i am just not a fan of him or his tennis. Sorry thats just my opinion.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #25 on: June 09, 2011, 01:12 PM »
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Finally people are waking up to the fact that Rafa's off court behaviour is carefully constructed to show him in the best possible light, while his oncourt antics perhaps betray who he really is as a person. Just as arrogant if not more so than FEDex and Nolly. I've long since held this opinion about Rafa, thats why i am just not a fan of him or his tennis. Sorry thats just my opinion.

Rolling Eyes and of course at no point whatsoever is Andy's off-court behaviour set up to construct him in the best light either. It's part of their job, they have to promote themselves, it doesn't make them any nicer or worse, it's just the truth. I'm not saying Rafa's a veritable ray of sunshine 24/7 but I am saying their human and what they do off-court comes with the territory.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #26 on: June 09, 2011, 01:30 PM »
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Finally people are waking up to the fact that Rafa's off court behaviour is carefully constructed to show him in the best possible light, while his oncourt antics perhaps betray who he really is as a person. Just as arrogant if not more so than FEDex and Nolly. I've long since held this opinion about Rafa, thats why i am just not a fan of him or his tennis. Sorry thats just my opinion.
Thanks Pt, i told Daisy that i hope soon Andy will pluck a feather from that little peacocks tail ,the way he struts about the court.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #27 on: June 09, 2011, 01:32 PM »
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Rolling Eyes and of course at no point whatsoever is Andy's off-court behaviour set up to construct him in the best light either. It's part of their job, they have to promote themselves, it doesn't make them any nicer or worse, it's just the truth. I'm not saying Rafa's a veritable ray of sunshine 24/7 but I am saying their human and what they do off-court comes with the territory.

i suppose what i'm saying is that there seems to be more discourse with Rafa's personas (on court/ off court). than when compared to lets say Andys, yes there is some discourse but not so variant as that which i see when i observe Rafa. I've just actually managed to read an article which address the article written by Lynn Barber, most if not all rafa - an(a)tics missed the point being made completely. It was really about the power and control of the PR machine and not really about Rafa himself, The personal inferences made about Rafa, were just the top coating of the whole story, the real story lay in the subtextual layers below this.

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2011/06/08/nsfrf-not-suitable-for-rafa-fanatics/
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #28 on: June 09, 2011, 02:13 PM »
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i suppose what i'm saying is that there seems to be more discourse with Rafa's personas (on court/ off court). than when compared to lets say Andys, yes there is some discourse but not so variant as that which i see when i observe Rafa. I've just actually managed to read an article which address the article written by Lynn Barber, most if not all rafa - an(a)tics missed the point being made completely. It was really about the power and control of the PR machine and not really about Rafa himself, The personal inferences made about Rafa, were just the top coating of the whole story, the real story lay in the subtextual layers below this.

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2011/06/08/nsfrf-not-suitable-for-rafa-fanatics/


You seriously go by this Lynn Barber character? She writes manipulative **** about everyone and represents exactly what is wrong with the horrible British media.

It's none of our bloody business how Rafa and his gf communicate between tournaments (oh apparently he said they've not thought about getting married yet so according to Barber they've split up????) or where Rafa has bought a house or how many cars he has.
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Re: Murray battles through to round three « Reply #29 on: June 09, 2011, 02:19 PM »
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I think at the end of the day, how nice a player is is irrelevant to the real task at hand.
Rafa is a Fierce(st?) competitor, and wishes to DESTROY everybody when he is on the court, that much is clear. Regardless wether they are friends or foe, & thats the right attitude to have, that's sport.
And don't get me started on his abuse of the time rule and his medical TO's when things are not going his way. He obviously plays the game like the best of them.
Look at the Williams sisters, do you think Serena's going to be `nice` to her sister
if they both entered and got to the final this year?
I know there were rumours when they came on the scene, but now I very much doubt it.
I just wish Andy instead of `enjoying` playing Rafa, went in with the attitude of `destroying` him as well, as I'm not sure he does but it really would help. I'm guessing Mr David Hayes is a bit too busy right now for anymore motivational texts.
As it pertains to our boy I think he is obviously the player least receptive to the political ramifications of his actions and is NOT a dab hand at the art of PR at all. So I don't really agree with you hazelbear.
What you see is what you get. I think he is a most genuine personality of the top 4 and has unfortunately paid quite a heavy price for this over the last few years, as a lot of Idiots have taken it upon themselves to hate him irrationaly.
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