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Posted on: July 22, 2012, 08:05 PM
Posted by: Alis
You're right Teejay - Chris Bradman is an absolute prat - quite the worst of the tennis commentators and many of the others leave a lot to be desired!
Posted on: July 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Hi All,

What a memorable match this one was.

Andy was passive in the beginning, and it worried me no end. I think the conditions had a lot to do with it though. I don't recall it ever being quite that windy on Centre Court before. It was interesting that the commentators remarked on how cold it was out there too, so not ideal conditions I would have thought. I'm also sure, as others have said, that the Karlovic match upset Andy's rhythm for a while.

I'm glad others noticed Ivan's hand gesture, I thought I'd imagined it! It was quite cleverly done though, quite benign, if that's the right word. I mean, was it 'hit through it', or was it just a gesture? I know what I think, but it was subtle so the umpire would have had a hard time proving it.

I do like Baghdatis, but I'm never quite sure why! He's just one of those players I think, one you just can't dislike. I always want to cuddle him for some reason! He's also far better than his ranking suggests.

I think I might have gone off Miles Maclagan though. I know it is his job to support his player, I get that, but what was going on with all the fist pumping? Funny, he never did that when he was coaching Andy, not that I can recall. If anything he was a fairly blank slate. It probably sounds petty, but I couldn't help thinking he was trying to wind Andy up.

Does anyone else want to thump Chris Bradman? Or will someone hold him while I thump him? Some of his remarks about Andy were pathetic, and always are somehow. I can't remember if he did the 'evil twin' remark this time, but he was ridiculous enough without it. I was amused by McEnroe's total inability to grasp why they had to stop at 11pm. They obviously don't have stupid local council rules in the US.

I am officially in favour of timed tennis! Don't get me wrong, it was ridiculous that it had to happen, the players are under enough pressure without having to worry about the clock, but Andy played beautifully. It was great, I felt able to stop tearing my hair out and swearing at the TV by then too, so I enjoyed it immensely!

You know, I don't think I have ever seen Andy have a wardrobe malfunction before. How weird that it happened three times, not to mention embarrassing. It could have been so costly too. Interesting to see that it was reported as a fault with the pockets in the end. I'd assumed that at least one of the instances was due to Andy going over (I cringed when he went down on that knee, ouch!), because he had some heavy falls, but there we are.

I think I'm right in saying that Andy has now been part of the two latest finishes in Wimbledon history, the Wawrinka match (I've got a recording of highlights from that) and now this one with Baghdatis. See, our man making history!
You're right in your last para.  And Andy even made history with the first match because it was the first full match to be played under the roof.  But I will never forgot how the players on that occasion were dripping with sweat because the conditions were so hot and humid, the roof having only been tested for two sets (I think) by Agassi, etc, in their exhibition match.  Andy was so exhausted he could barely speak at the end when he was interviewed on court.

lol McEnroe's bewilderment was quite something when he discovered play had to stop at 11 pm, and on the dot at that.  The US doesn't have the same interfering Health & Safety busybodies to contend with like we have.  Worried that people would trip and hurt themselves in the dark?  Doesn't Wimbledon have any street lights?  Also shame on the locals for complaining about the noise from the air-conditioning plant keeping them awake if matches ran on beyond that time - something which is probably only going to happen once or twice a year.

Re the wardrobe malfunction - I'm surprised Andy continued to keep a ball in his pocket after the first incident, and certainly after the second, knowing he would be penalised if it happened again.  Adidas did admit that poor workmanship had been to blame for these mishaps but I don't think Andy's taking any more chances and has changed to a different style.

I never liked Maclagan much anyway and it's a pity one of the officials didn't notice what he was doing.  Lendl's gesture was so slight it looked very innocent.  I only picked up on it because Lendl normally doesn't move a muscle when Andy's playing.
Posted on: July 22, 2012, 04:58 PM
Posted by: ChrisMac
Funny how you mention about Miles. I too mention the pumping fist, "come on just 1 set" to Baggy while he was playing Andy, and I have never, never seen him to this to Andy when he was his coach, he just sat quietly chewing at his nails. Miles really annoyed me and from that moment I went completely off him!
Posted on: July 22, 2012, 02:25 PM
Posted by: teejay1
Hi All,

What a memorable match this one was.

Andy was passive in the beginning, and it worried me no end. I think the conditions had a lot to do with it though. I don't recall it ever being quite that windy on Centre Court before. It was interesting that the commentators remarked on how cold it was out there too, so not ideal conditions I would have thought. I'm also sure, as others have said, that the Karlovic match upset Andy's rhythm for a while.

I'm glad others noticed Ivan's hand gesture, I thought I'd imagined it! It was quite cleverly done though, quite benign, if that's the right word. I mean, was it 'hit through it', or was it just a gesture? I know what I think, but it was subtle so the umpire would have had a hard time proving it.

I do like Baghdatis, but I'm never quite sure why! He's just one of those players I think, one you just can't dislike. I always want to cuddle him for some reason! He's also far better than his ranking suggests.

I think I might have gone off Miles Maclagan though. I know it is his job to support his player, I get that, but what was going on with all the fist pumping? Funny, he never did that when he was coaching Andy, not that I can recall. If anything he was a fairly blank slate. It probably sounds petty, but I couldn't help thinking he was trying to wind Andy up.

Does anyone else want to thump Chris Bradman? Or will someone hold him while I thump him? Some of his remarks about Andy were pathetic, and always are somehow. I can't remember if he did the 'evil twin' remark this time, but he was ridiculous enough without it. I was amused by McEnroe's total inability to grasp why they had to stop at 11pm. They obviously don't have stupid local council rules in the US.

I am officially in favour of timed tennis! Don't get me wrong, it was ridiculous that it had to happen, the players are under enough pressure without having to worry about the clock, but Andy played beautifully. It was great, I felt able to stop tearing my hair out and swearing at the TV by then too, so I enjoyed it immensely!

You know, I don't think I have ever seen Andy have a wardrobe malfunction before. How weird that it happened three times, not to mention embarrassing. It could have been so costly too. Interesting to see that it was reported as a fault with the pockets in the end. I'd assumed that at least one of the instances was due to Andy going over (I cringed when he went down on that knee, ouch!), because he had some heavy falls, but there we are.

I think I'm right in saying that Andy has now been part of the two latest finishes in Wimbledon history, the Wawrinka match (I've got a recording of highlights from that) and now this one with Baghdatis. See, our man making history!
Posted on: July 02, 2012, 03:37 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Whoa!!! I didnt know the part where the points were awarded against him...that is pretty upsetting...
Yes, he got off the first time it happened, but was penalised (as per the rules) for the next two occasions.  Could have been very costly for Andy.
Posted on: July 02, 2012, 03:31 PM
Posted by: Sabine
Not surprising - handing two points like that to his opponent, especially in a Slam he desperately wants to win, is just insane.  Adidas claimed it was a manufacturing fault, but Andy isn't taking any chances and will now be wearing a different style of the same shorts, at least for the Cilic match.

Whoa!!! I didnt know the part where the points were awarded against him...that is pretty upsetting...
Posted on: July 02, 2012, 03:26 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Yah, it came a couple of times...he was really pissed off!!!!!
Not surprising - handing two points like that to his opponent, especially in a Slam he desperately wants to win, is just insane.  Adidas claimed it was a manufacturing fault, but Andy isn't taking any chances and will now be wearing a different style of the same shorts, at least for the Cilic match.
Posted on: July 02, 2012, 03:19 PM
Posted by: Sabine
Did you see his balls come out of his shorts?
Yah, it came a couple of times...he was really pissed off!!!!!
Posted on: July 02, 2012, 01:08 PM
Posted by: Quackers

Ooooh awesome!!  Thanking yous Very Happy hug
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 10:12 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Murray's latest BBC column.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18664872
I like Andy's blogs.  They're always interesting and give a good insight into what goes on behind the scenes - like how he spent the time waiting for the match to start.  Also good to know that he seems to have no ill effects from his various tumbles on court.

I believe it's Karlovic to blame for Andys (tennis) balls popping out. As you so astutely observe, you've only ever seen this happen once and just one ball.
Ivo or his team must have bribed someone in the dressingroom to shorten Andys pockets a little and cause this mishap. I cannot be a fluke or coincidence, as Karlo pointed out regarding his foot faults! Impossible lmao
One conspiracy deserves another! Very Happy
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 10:08 PM
Posted by: Allan
Just watched the final 2 games on the beebs website as I had to go out for my friends birthday last night and miss the tennis, cracking end!!!  I was hoping there would be a full repeat on the red button but there wasn't.  I managed to catch the first two sets before I went out so woulda been nice to watch the last two, should have recorded it Frown D'oh!
The whole match is on BBC iPlayer if you're interested. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01ks81q/Wimbledon_2012_Day_Six_Match_Two_Marcos_Baghdatis_v_Andy_Murray/
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 08:55 PM
Posted by: Sir Panda
Woop Woop!

Did you see his balls come out of his shorts?
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 08:54 PM
Posted by: eira_arian
Woop Woop!
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 07:57 PM
Posted by: lashurst
AILEEN: "I also hope, if he must keep a ball in his pocket, that he has a word with Adidas on the matter so's they can give him deeper pockets. lol  I think I've only seen that happen once to a player, never mind 3 times in one match - and those two lost points could have been very costly indeed."

I believe it's Karlovic to blame for Andys (tennis) balls popping out. As you so astutely observe, you've only ever seen this happen once and just one ball.
Ivo or his team must have bribed someone in the dressingroom to shorten Andys pockets a little and cause this mishap. I cannot be a fluke or coincidence, as Karlo pointed out regarding his foot faults! Impossible lmao
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 07:46 PM
Posted by: Quackers
Just watched the final 2 games on the beebs website as I had to go out for my friends birthday last night and miss the tennis, cracking end!!!  I was hoping there would be a full repeat on the red button but there wasn't.  I managed to catch the first two sets before I went out so woulda been nice to watch the last two, should have recorded it Frown D'oh!
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 07:17 PM
Posted by: tamila
It was a good match.  I did think that the plan went wrong.  I felt that Andy was trying to tire Bagdatis before sticking the knife in but the falls put paid to that until the end.  The last set was incredible and hopefully he will be able to reproduce that kind of tennis tomorrow.  They both played very well and Bagdatis is a very good player but just has not been consistent enough over the years.

The first ball seem to fall immediately after the fall.

In spite of all the publicity to the contrary Andy was only doing what the top players do - dig deep and come though.  When Fed or Djoker or Nadal do the same they are lauded as great.  What is wrong with the press and the Murray haters.
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 06:30 PM
Posted by: Fiverings
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I also hope, if he must keep a ball in his pocket, that he has a word with Adidas on the matter so's they can give him deeper pockets. lol  I think I've only seen that happen once to a player, never mind 3 times in one match - and those two lost points could have been very costly indeed.  
 I wondered if it was linked to his fall - cant remember the exact sequence of events so could be wrong. Lovely headline in Scotland on Sunday btw  - Caught short -Andy's wardrobe malfunction!  poster_oops
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 05:30 PM
Posted by: backhandslice
Murray's latest BBC column.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18664872


I think I should do this during Andys matches as well.  We all should Very Happy

Posted on: July 01, 2012, 05:06 PM
Posted by: lashurst
Interesting stats so far, thanx to janetx Smile
http://www.tennisplanet.me/blog/2012/06/djokovic-federer-and-murray-after-three-matches-a-piece-wimbledon-2012-very-little-separating-the-th.html

Very close but Andy's break point conversion is horrible  though actually leads with match points won.
Thanks for the link Bbh. Ive not seen that one before.
Posted on: July 01, 2012, 04:59 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
I noticed the signal too Aileen - was afraid he might get done for coaching.  I also saw him smile at one point as things were going better -nearly fell off my chair.  I suspect the passiveness was combination of nerves, conditions and loss of rhythm following match against Karlo.
I'm a Baggy fan too and thought he played really good tennis for parts of the match and do love that smile.  But I'm afraid there's no contest when he's up against our Andy.
I noticed that when they repeated the post-match interview on R5L this morning they edited out the bit when he said he blamed his shorts - perhaps at request of Adidas?   Whistle