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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #15 on: May 06, 2011, 01:58 AM »
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Bellucci played great  , and Andy well , he confuses me at times. This up and down form is so frustrating to watch.
Im not really that concerned about this loss, but I do wish he would quit it with the F bombs    Shhh
















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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #16 on: May 06, 2011, 04:33 AM »
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People reading too much into this.

This is clay. As much as I would love Andy to light up the tour on all three surfaces, it just isn't going to happen. Keep accruing a decent amount of points, hang onto #4, and let's see what he's got at SW19.

Bellucci played well. Some of the denizens of MW have this mentality that Andy is the only factor in a tennis match. Bellucci has won claycourt titles on the ATP Tour (something Murray hasn't done) He got it spot on tactically by shortening the points when he could, and he deserves the spot in the QFs.
Well said.  I don't regard this loss as being nearly as much of a disaster as his hard-court losses earlier this year, especially as (a) he's coming back from an injury which has the potential to prove troublesome for a while yet, and (b) he was playing an opponent who's clearly very much at home on clay. 
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #17 on: May 06, 2011, 06:23 AM »
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Great writing, Nigel, as usual.  Too bad this time it was on the ↓ side. I actually missed a lot of the game  today but from what I saw Bellucci did play very well and, as you say, deserved the win.  

Oh well, just you wait - he'll get there.  Still recuperating.

Auburn - I didn't see the F words but don't forget he is often saying Focus!   yes

Good input from a couple of newer  (or usually quieter) MW members but that thread seems to be gone now.

Michelle, from previous thread - I'm with you, and even though it has been said that Andy's biggest fans are often the most critical, we who are not so nit-picking are just as big supporters. (e.g. of nit-picking imo would be criticizing a 6-0 game!)

Aileen - thanks for posting the link to From Sports.  I can't always get that but it worked for me today.  Smile

Though I don't despair that Andy is out of the running for this one as I have lots of other things to do.  I feel bad for his disappointment, but it's all in the game , so Next!  Onwards & Upwards!
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #18 on: May 06, 2011, 06:52 AM »
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Great report Nigel.........It's the best 'bad' report I've ever read.....if you know what I mean! yes
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #19 on: May 06, 2011, 07:31 AM »
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I think those of us who are disappointed are guilty of having our clay expectations raised after the performance against Nadal. Maybe I was a bit harsh in the article, but I really thought he'd learned to play on this stuff. But the two performances were like night and day. Maybe his elbow is more of a factor than we know.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #20 on: May 06, 2011, 08:13 AM »
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Many thanks for an excellent report and good postings too. Like everyone else I was hoping Andy would be able to return to the form he displayed against Nadal in MC, maybe he will one day, but Belluci certainly played well. Hope he improves for Rome.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #21 on: May 06, 2011, 08:19 AM »
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We may have to start a thread just for Nigel's Headlines lol
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #22 on: May 06, 2011, 08:34 AM »
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I think those of us who are disappointed are guilty of having our clay expectations raised after the performance against Nadal. Maybe I was a bit harsh in the article, but I really thought he'd learned to play on this stuff. But the two performances were like night and day. Maybe his elbow is more of a factor than we know.
I thought your report was fair Nigel! Spot on!
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #23 on: May 06, 2011, 08:55 AM »
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I think those of us who are disappointed are guilty of having our clay expectations raised after the performance against Nadal. Maybe I was a bit harsh in the article, but I really thought he'd learned to play on this stuff. But the two performances were like night and day. Maybe his elbow is more of a factor than we know.
It was harsh but we'll forgive you for that headline Nigel!  And I agree about disappointed expectations after MC.  Hearing part of Andy's interview with the BBC today, I'd also say the elbow was a factor.  He wasn't blaming it, but it may have made him more tentative . What I find most disappointing was the lack of spark.  It sometimes seems as if only players who he regards as better than [or at least as good as] himself can ignite that spark these days.  I'm sure that isn't conscious but he needs to refind the spark in every match.  A couple of us had expressed some scepticism about Andy's upbeat statements before the tourno as often these then lead to downbeat performances on court.  I'm only sorry that our scepticism was warranted.
I'm hoping that some intensive work with Cahill before RG will help him both technically and with the psychology.  
In the mean time, I hope Belluci beats Berdych.  I rather like Belluci [well not for beating our ANdy of course] and he deserves to progress whereas I bracket Berdych with Soderling as unpleasant big hitters.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #24 on: May 06, 2011, 09:01 AM »
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As ever well reported, Nigel.

Unfortunately, as soon as I watched Andy in the warm up and looking at his body language, I guessed that he was about to enter an uncomfortable evening. I predicted a quick defeat.

Red clay is not his surface, but as matters stand neither is hard court. Perhaps he is still suffering from injuries, but he obviously CANNOT continue without a permanent and full-time coach.

Just compare Andy's progress and attitude with that of Djokovic. The latter comes on to court and proclaims to the world: "I am a winner. I shall deal with my opponent quickly and comfortably. I shall then end as world no 1". Andy seems to indicate and say: "I hope I can win this match and think about my next challenge. Maybe I can stay as world no 4, but if not it does not matter".

I shall continue to support Andy as long as he plays, but I am beginning to feel that AM does not worry whether he wins or not. Such is a poor, destructive and negitive attitude. One from which he has difficulties in moving. Perhaps he is no longer hungry for success.
   
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #25 on: May 06, 2011, 09:08 AM »
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As ever well reported, Nigel.

Unfortunately, as soon as I watched Andy in the warm up and looking at his body language, I guessed that he was about to enter an uncomfortable evening. I predicted a quick defeat.

Red clay is not his surface, but as matters stand neither is hard court. Perhaps he is still suffering from injuries, but he obviously CANNOT continue without a permanent and full-time coach.

Just compare Andy's progress and attitude with that of Djokovic. The latter comes on to court and proclaims to the world: "I am a winner. I shall deal with my opponent quickly and comfortably. I shall then end as world no 1". Andy seems to indicate and say: "I hope I can win this match and think about my next challenge. Maybe I can stay as world no 4, but if not it does not matter".

I shall continue to support Andy as long as he plays, but I am beginning to feel that AM does not worry whether he wins or not. Such is a poor, destructive and negitive attitude. One from which he has difficulties in moving. Perhaps he is no longer hungry for success.
   
That's what worries me - that he doesn't seem to have the same hunger for success that he used to have at least not against lesser players.  If he doesn't refind that I fear he won't fulfil his potential to be the best player in the world, which his old Spanish coach saw in him.  I would find that so sad.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #26 on: May 06, 2011, 09:33 AM »
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From the ridiculous to the sublime...watching Murray play on clay to watching Djokovic and Nadal contesting the final!
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #27 on: May 06, 2011, 03:18 PM »
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Belucci has now beaten Berdych to go into the semi-finals so Andy is not his only victim.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #28 on: May 06, 2011, 04:38 PM »
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17 out of 19 non Slam matches have been lost by AM when his opponent has won the first set from the Dubai tournament in 2010 to now.  Only Nalbandian in Paris and Gulbis in Cincinnati have lost when taking the first set.

Compared to 2008 he won 9 out of 20 when losing the first set.  In 2009 he won 5 out of 10.

These stats provide a definite lack of fight compared to the two previous years.
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Re: Murray gets waxed by Brazilian « Reply #29 on: May 06, 2011, 04:48 PM »
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Think we are all a little guilty of reading too much into this loss. I would not panick just yet. If this double dip so to speak continues into Rome and then on into the French Open, perhaps we should then put our fingers on the alarm button, until then i'll sit tight and see how it all unfolds with our Andy. We've been here before nothings new. However that said, i'm a little confused, as pre madrid Andy was talking up his chances on the red dirt alot, citing the fact that he was practising intensely with Nadal, was feeling good phyisically and mentally. He even went as far as to suggest that he could give Nadal a run for his money. Perhaps this upbeat talk was more about convincing himself that he was ok (injury still an issue?) and not about sending a message to his supporters and future opponents. I'm seriously perplexed by all this up and down and contradictory soundbites!! confused confused
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