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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #30 on: January 23, 2012, 04:45 PM »
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Is this confirmed?
Not sticking up for the lad as I don't like what I've seen so far, but I read a quote earlier which stated that 'he was always much taller than everyone else his age'. I was too, all the way from playschool until the present day - I'm pretty sure that I'm the age that my birth certificate suggests! wink

Well, it's not 'official', obviously. But it's an open secret in Oz. He did it (or his dad did it) to get a leg-up in juniors.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #31 on: January 23, 2012, 04:47 PM »
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I liked the fact he joked about the "100 years" thing in his interview on court afterwards, without even being asked about it.  I think when it comes to a final that is when Lendl can make a huge difference.  That is what he has been hired for really.  Murray doesn't need him to get to a slam final, he has done that himself, it is the extra bit he needs direction for.

I think if say a Berdych got to the final, Andy would simply blitz him and take the title easily.  Only Nadal on that side of the draw could deny Andy really, so I will be very happy if he loses later.  He likes playing Del Potro, and Fed is not at the level where he denied Andy twice in the past.

I am only worried about Nole.  For me that is the final.
yes you are absolutely right, Djoko is the one to beat, I think he can, the rest i am sure he would beat.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #32 on: January 23, 2012, 04:49 PM »
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Well, it's not 'official', obviously. But it's an open secret in Oz. He did it (or his dad did it) to get a leg-up in juniors.

Perhaps there should be a campaign to get the birth certificate released for public inspection, Obama style.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #33 on: January 23, 2012, 04:50 PM »
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Well done Andy Smile  It always makes me feel happy when Andy wins Smile it just makes my day a whole lot better
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #34 on: January 23, 2012, 04:52 PM »
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Perhaps there should be a campaign to get the birth certificate released for public inspection, Obama style.

I seriously might write to the ITF to ask if they're aware of the rumours. I hate cheats.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 04:54 PM »
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Elena, thanks for the trancript. Interesting to read it.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 04:54 PM »
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Nole has had no test at all in this Slam, probably bad and he does not like the heat too much. I think the next few days will tell. Pressure will be on him to regain the Slam but Andy is a big question, I have not seen him play with such confidence and aggression for ages.  Lendl is doing something - I guess the mental side. He has told him he can do it.!!
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 04:59 PM »
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Here's the thread containing the info about Tomic's birthdate:

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=15984&zoneid=4
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 05:01 PM »
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Totally agree I think there will be an upset tomorrow.
Fingers crossed  Shhh
Djoko is the man to beat though!
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 05:40 PM »
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Here's the thread containing the info about Tomic's birthdate:

http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=15984&zoneid=4


Hmmm I guess no-one mainstream has touched this because it is too risky for them.  All rumours really, and if his birth certificate is not extant it will be impossible to prove either way.  The number of legal cases in the last few years where asylum seekers have claimed to be under 18 and it has proved almost impossible scientifically to say one way or another indicate this.

His family would have to come clean, which assuming they were lying, they never would.  All I can say is he looks like he could be 19.

If it turned out he had cheated then he would be in a whole world of trouble with the ATP, but I suggest that this is probably just some jealous guy on the internet slinging some mud around.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 05:41 PM »
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Andy summed this match up exactly - "Today there was nothing.  There was no atmosphere 'cause there was no points.  That was it."   It wasn't even a decent practice match and Andy did well to only lose his focus a couple of times, but brought it back very quickly, which was encouraging.  According to the BBC Kukushkin pulled out citing a left hip flexor problem.  Possibly he had but I suspect fatigue and the scorching heat (37C/98F on court) had more to do with it.  Very good for Andy of course from an energy-saving point of view, especially as the hot weather looks set to continue, but he knows that he cannot let things slide, and Lendl and the team will certainly ensure that he keeps himself in good shape.

The worry I have is that Andy gets rid of Novak only to have him choke in the final yet again with Nadal or whoever taking it. I will have a lot of problems living with that.
If he does get through Nishikori & then Novak all of this no British player for a 100 years rubbish better be put to the side. He's a big boy now, there should be no excuses.
I share the same concern because I fear that that Andy still isn't up there mentally enough yet to win a Slam, and he'd have the added problem of overcoming the spectre of his last two final defeats.  He's only been working with Lendl for a very short time and, although already one benefit has been seen, i.e. his on-court attitude has improved and sharing his frustrations with his box has stopped, I seriously doubt that this will have been enough for this particular psychological problem to have been sorted out.

However, as to the rest of your post - I don't recall Andy ever making excuses for his poor showings in any match, and he certainly didn't after losing these finals. Yes he's matured a lot, but, as I've already said, I think he does have a genuine mental hurdle to overcome, and one which isn't peculiar to Slams either, and that isn't likely to vanish overnight.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 05:43 PM »
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If (when) Andy gets to play Djoko, he wont be beaten  3 -0 like the 2011 final, rest assured.
However, should we prepare for the fact that he may still lack that little extra to beat the top 3?

Lendl has made a difference already, but still, is it enough of one after only 2 weeks?
It only takes a little muscle strain or an unfavorable OOP with a gruelling 5 setter in the heat to whip the fine balance in someone elses favour. Andy says it is a marginal 1-2% that is the difference at the top. Anyone can beat anyone on a given day.

I expect him to win against Kei. I for one wont pilliary Andy if he loses thesemi or final. His Slam WILL come this year, but best to be realistic.
You can say I'm quite confident regarding the AO, but wouldnt like put my house on it.
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 05:49 PM »
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I think we should be more like Andy and Lendl and take each match at a time, although Andy isn't worried about this slam, he said that he and Lendl are looking at the long term, if he doesn't win this one there are others. Because of this I think he can win this one as he isn't putting too much pressure on himself, and with Lendl helping him before each match I think it will be very different this time. superman
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 05:55 PM »
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If (when) Andy gets to play Djoko, he wont be beaten  3 -0 like the 2011 final, rest assured.
However, should we prepare for the fact that he may still lack that little extra to beat the top 3?

Lendl has made a difference already, but still, is it enough of one after only 2 weeks?
It only takes a little muscle strain or an unfavorable OOP with a gruelling 5 setter in the heat to whip the fine balance in someone elses favour. Andy says it is a marginal 1-2% that is the difference at the top. Anyone can beat anyone on a given day.

I expect him to win against Kei. I for one wont pilliary Andy if he loses thesemi or final. His Slam WILL come this year, but best to be realistic.
You can say I'm quite confident regarding the AO, but wouldnt like put my house on it.
I agree about a Djokovic SF, but I'd be quite happy to settle for Andy putting up a good fight then and losing than see him possibly once again crumble in the final, although, if that does happen, then of one thing I am certain - we won't be looking at a third consecutive post-AO slump.   
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Re: Murray cruises into the quarters « Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 05:58 PM »
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You all sound like ak400 cohorts today... Get a grip...Andy has a great chance NOW...... Not just in the future.
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