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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #60 on: December 08, 2011, 10:01 AM »
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If people are giving Tsonga, Berdych and Soderling time ( all are older than Andy ) then at 24, there is time for Andy to win slams. Heck, Roger is a legitimate contender into his 30s and can expect Andy to have an Agassi type career and still enjoy success into his 30s.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #61 on: December 08, 2011, 11:50 AM »
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Exactly syc23, they think all these guy will do it, and no mention of their age. Andy is just a youngster and has already achieved so much, I don't see why everyone is panicking, I'm not, Andy will get there, when we least expect it.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #62 on: December 08, 2011, 11:56 AM »
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The Reason they say it differently for Andy is simple,
He is expected to become a multiple slam winner not just a one slam wonder
As he clearly has the talent to take on the other 3 for the big prizes.
Nothing is written in stone but it would be strange given his stats results, & at the masters level as well as his sometimes wizard like skills that he didn't pull it off soon enough.
But he has to keep on improving his attitude, & he will.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #63 on: December 08, 2011, 04:38 PM »
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This year has been his best Slam year. If he keeps knocking on that door  I'm convinced it'll open for him sooner rather than later. I think he's been slow to mature but let's face it, who'd have thought this time last year, that  Djkovich was going to have  such a spectacular year?
The only thing separating Novak and Andy is incredible self-belief, not skill. However, if he can do it, then so can Andy.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #64 on: December 08, 2011, 04:54 PM »
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This year has been his best Slam year. If he keeps knocking on that door  I'm convinced it'll open for him sooner rather than later. I think he's been slow to mature but let's face it, who'd have thought this time last year, that  Djkovich was going to have  such a spectacular year?
The only thing separating Novak and Andy is incredible self-belief, not skill. However, if he can do it, then so can Andy.


 clap absolutely agree bbh. 
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #65 on: December 08, 2011, 08:03 PM »
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Totally agree he can do it and 2012 wil be when he shows the world just how good he is.....
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #66 on: December 09, 2011, 11:15 AM »
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Check out what Nadal says after defeating Del Potro;
"Del Potro has a very high level as a player. It's all relative. For a long time he was giving incredible shots that nobody else can do. He will be a very good player. It's clear that he's a candidate for No. 1. He will be amongst the first four players in the world next year. He's a very complete player. He doesn't have any cracks in his game. He's very solid. He will be unstoppable next year if the [wrist] injury allows him."
Who's he think is going to be bumped if all of the above have won a Slam but one?
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #67 on: December 09, 2011, 11:26 AM »
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Speaking of luck - yes, he indeed need a ton of it. He needs a very good draw and a perfect schedule. Everyone got a break at their first slam shot - even Federer - so it's only fair he gets one too. There will be absolutely no shame in it. If he faces someone in the final who is also looking for his first grand slam, then Andy has a greater chance, though it will be a choke fest between the two, but Andy is a far better player then the rest and should come through in the end. The five set format will help him get through given ups and downs which he will most certainly face. Given everything - fresh and rested, suface, conditions, schedules, distance - AO is the most ideal Slam for Andy.  All he needs is a very favourable draw and that's all. AO is unpredictable in this way anyway.
It will NOT be luck or the draw or the gods who decide if Andy will win a Slam. It will have to be HIS game that provides that "piece of the puzzle".....if he can't suck it up and play with the big boys he doesn't deserve to be winning anything!!! It is the work and mental strenght which makes great players, pretenders don't have it; they ain't great!!!!
Andy for the moment is a pretender who, I admit, is exciting to watch on occasion, but where the consistancy matters, he can't seem to put it together. We all have been saying for years, late bloomer, maybe next year, poor luck, hurt, etc., When's it going to happen is anybody's guess, but look at the odds. Are they in his favor or not? This is gambling with fate and nothing more. I just want to see good tennis, even if he loses!!!
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #68 on: December 09, 2011, 12:07 PM »
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The issue is nerves and performance anxiety, history and immaturity Buhweet.
It's obviously that, not his game at least not now anyway or going on, with all the recent improvements (in the last few months)
He has to be able to play his best when it really matters in the final of a slam.
I doubt Rafa was suggesting Andy would be kicked out of the top 4 either.
If he hadn't been injured he would have finished number 3 this year, and is someone who can beat Delpo well.
I think he was suggesting Roger, or at least I am. But if Novak continues the way he has the last year and takes RG from Nadal, well there might be room in the top 4 anyway!
Going on everyone shall be a late bloomer given the depth of the tour right now, Roanic and all the rest might not get even close to a masters never mind a slam final for years yet.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #69 on: December 09, 2011, 12:47 PM »
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This is all just so much speculation guys!! I, for one, intend to leave him alone, and just sit back and enjoy watching him get on with it!
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #70 on: December 09, 2011, 12:56 PM »
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Well said Caz - me too!
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #71 on: December 09, 2011, 12:59 PM »
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This is all just so much speculation guys!! I, for one, intend to leave him alone, and just sit back and enjoy watching him get on with it!
Indeed Caz but in the off season  when we can't sit back and watch him, speculate is all we can do I fear! 
So I'll speculate: I doubt v much Rafa had Andy in mind when he was talking about delpo. I agree with theycanbillme that Fed is the more likely candidate to drop out of top 4 despite his wins at the end of the season.  But actually I doubt he had anyone in particular in mind. It was just his way of crediting how well delpo played for much of the match.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #72 on: December 09, 2011, 01:58 PM »
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Check out what Nadal says after defeating Del Potro;
"Del Potro has a very high level as a player. It's all relative. For a long time he was giving incredible shots that nobody else can do. He will be a very good player. It's clear that he's a candidate for No. 1. He will be amongst the first four players in the world next year. He's a very complete player. He doesn't have any cracks in his game. He's very solid. He will be unstoppable next year if the [wrist] injury allows him."
Who's he think is going to be bumped if all of the above have won a Slam but one?


H2H: JMDP v. Andy: 1-5.  v. Fed : 2-7.  v. Rafa : 3-7.  v. Novak: 1-4,

So whose Rafa's money on? Himself perhaps, I've heard he's having more injections in those knees.
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #73 on: December 09, 2011, 02:41 PM »
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Indeed Caz but in the off season  when we can't sit back and watch him, speculate is all we can do I fear! 
So I'll speculate: I doubt v much Rafa had Andy in mind when he was talking about delpo. I agree with theycanbillme that Fed is the more likely candidate to drop out of top 4 despite his wins at the end of the season.  But actually I doubt he had anyone in particular in mind. It was just his way of crediting how well delpo played for much of the match.
Quite so Ruthie........Enjoy!  hug I'll see you in January!
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Re: Murray dismisses sports psychology « Reply #74 on: December 09, 2011, 02:44 PM »
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Is it possible a Del-Po rise could be the making of Andy?  It's been a long time since he's needed to look over his shoulder (excepting recent Fed events).
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