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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #60 on: June 07, 2012, 07:52 AM »
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After Wednesday's 6-4, 6-7 (3/7), 6-3, 6-2 loss to 30-year-old Ferrer, in a match where he committed 59 unforced errors, he was quickly onto the attack.
"I feel like I went for my shots. If I hadn't done, I would have got criticized for that. If I do go for my shots, then I get criticized for making mistakes," he said.

He's damned from all sides hug

At least he manfully accepted his place in the pecking order, on the slow surface anyway.

"I think the four best claycourt players in the world are left in and whoever plays best will win," Murray said.

"Probably have to favour Rafa slightly, but everyone is playing very, very well."

Both items are from Yahoo NZ.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #61 on: June 07, 2012, 08:20 AM »
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Excellent report Hazel. What would be good is if Ferrer somehow managed to take the title - he's such a fighter and, I believe, a very nice guy. I didn't realise how friendly he and Andy were until our comms on ITV4 mentioned it. Andy seems to have so many friends among the other players i.e. Nadal, Novak and many more which says a great deal for him but I do notice that Fed is not amongst them particularly!
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #62 on: June 07, 2012, 08:35 AM »
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Very good report. Andy came through a back injury coming into this tournament, suffered a back spasm and yet some are writing him off, get real. He and the comms all said that Ferrer is a wonderful player on clay and that it would be difficult for Andy to beat him. I for one was hoping he wouldn't have to face Nadal, I felt it would be better to have time to get ready for Queens and Wimbledon where he has a better chance of winning his first GS. He is working on that killer forehand once that is firing then look out....The missing stroke in his arsenal of strokes will be there. I don't think Lendl needs any advice from Grabcopy. confused Whistle I for one am looking to seeing Andy on the grass and the hard courts.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #63 on: June 07, 2012, 08:44 AM »
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Yes, goodbye clay - we all hate you and I used to hate playing on it as well - mainly cos my Mum always complained about how filthly red my kit was!

It's ridiculous how long the clay season is especially when Madrid was allowed to convert from hard - and that's before the blue stuff.  The grass season should be a couple of weeks longer and Andy will be ready for it.

Strangely, I'm left feeling encouraged by Andy's performance yesterday.  Only a minor improvement would have won him the match e.g. 1st serve % or less unforced errors but it was just 1 of those days.  Ferrer will know he came up against an off-form opponent but, to be fair, Ferrer did the things he does well better than Andy did the things he does well.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #64 on: June 07, 2012, 08:47 AM »
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Yes Andy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  I truly believe the constant criticism affects him more than we know.

I also worry that Lendl is imposing his own strategies on Andy and perhaps taking away his natural ability to work things out on court which has always been one of his main strengths........I hope I'm wrong.

The serve is and always has been a concern - if he could get that right it would help enormously.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #65 on: June 07, 2012, 08:51 AM »
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We still in for Rogers Cup?
I got a call from them today trying to sell me a package but I didn't bite.
If there's no Andy.. there's no scotnadian.
I think also there could be a few 'no players'.  Isn't it the week straight after the Olympics - I can see a few withdrawals - inc Andy who'll just play Cinci before USO
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #66 on: June 07, 2012, 08:52 AM »
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If he doesn't play at Queens, how's he going to prepare for Wimbledon?  Hopefully he might see things more clearly after a few days' rest.  To be honest I'll be surprised if he doesn't play.
Andy will play Queens but.....didn't Djokovic win Wimby last year with no warm up grass event - so why can't Andy? Just use the 1st couple of rounds as warm up.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #67 on: June 07, 2012, 08:56 AM »
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Andy seems to really enjoy playing at Queens.  I remember how relaxed he was last year and that can only be a good thing going into the third slam.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #68 on: June 07, 2012, 09:56 AM »
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I don't think Lendl needs any advice from Grabcopy.

Well, he listened to me back in 84 when he was two sets down to Johnny Mac in the Paris final.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #69 on: June 07, 2012, 10:18 AM »
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It's the morning after the night before......

Having just read through the comments on here, some of them are unbelievable!!   My opinion for what it's worth as I am only a tennis fan and know nothing about the technicalities of the game (that is what Ivan Lendl is for) but last week Andy was a couple of games away from going out in the second round, we then saw a display of guts, courage and bravery to carry on and complete a game that all the professionals were saying he could not complete.  We then saw Andy play a fault free match, then we witnessed him dismantle a very talented but fickle home favourite with supreme tennis.  Okay he fell short against a proper clay courted, he tried, what impressed me was that he did not revert to type, he kept being aggressive, he kept going for winners, is this not what everyone has shouted at him for in the past, "don't be passive, keep aggressive" - the guy does this and hey ho he is still being slated for it.  Realistically, the chances of him overturning Rafa were very slim, so now David Ferrer will be subject to some ritual humiliation, I personally would not have wanted Andy to face that, because his confidence would have taken a nosedive and the media would have been all over him with their usual "supportive" guff!!

As for some of the comments re. Andy's results being predictable etc well there is one thing that Andy is not and that is predicatable!!  He will keep working, he will keep trying, he will keep giving it his all in his bid for that elusive slam.  He has taken onboard a coach and mentor, it is going to take time for him to take on board the advice, the changes etc and I say that as a tennis fan, I know nothing about the technical aspects but in any field, be it sports, education etc it takes time to learn, it is never and instant thing.
He is just currently outside the top three, but the margins for incision in that top three are minimal and let's face it he has a level of consistency that is greater than the players below him, if he did not he would not have held onto his fourth place for so long.  I could not believe that they were talking up Berdych's chances of a maiden slam, he is older than Andy, not as good as Andy and not as consistent.  So if he is a possibility, then Andy is a shoe in!!!

I support Murray because he is a brilliant player and a totally likeable guy and also he is one of us, I will continue to support him come what may because I believe he has a lot of qualities that make you appreciate him, his work ethic, his focus, his determination etc.  I still think it will happen for him he just needs his health and a bit of luck re draws etc. 

Finally, I hope that Djoko thrashed the smug one, Rafa annihilates Daveeeeeeed and that Rafa takes the title as Djoko's smugness is becoming akin to the King of Smug himself!!



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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #70 on: June 07, 2012, 10:29 AM »
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It's the morning after the night before......

Having just read through the comments on here, some of them are unbelievable!!   My opinion for what it's worth as I am only a tennis fan and know nothing about the technicalities of the game (that is what Ivan Lendl is for) but last week Andy was a couple of games away from going out in the second round, we then saw a display of guts, courage and bravery to carry on and complete a game that all the professionals were saying he could not complete.  We then saw Andy play a fault free match, then we witnessed him dismantle a very talented but fickle home favourite with supreme tennis.  Okay he fell short against a proper clay courted, he tried, what impressed me was that he did not revert to type, he kept being aggressive, he kept going for winners, is this not what everyone has shouted at him for in the past, "don't be passive, keep aggressive" - the guy does this and hey ho he is still being slated for it.  Realistically, the chances of him overturning Rafa were very slim, so now David Ferrer will be subject to some ritual humiliation, I personally would not have wanted Andy to face that, because his confidence would have taken a nosedive and the media would have been all over him with their usual "supportive" guff!!

As for some of the comments re. Andy's results being predictable etc well there is one thing that Andy is not and that is predicatable!!  He will keep working, he will keep trying, he will keep giving it his all in his bid for that elusive slam.  He has taken onboard a coach and mentor, it is going to take time for him to take on board the advice, the changes etc and I say that as a tennis fan, I know nothing about the technical aspects but in any field, be it sports, education etc it takes time to learn, it is never and instant thing.
He is just currently outside the top three, but the margins for incision in that top three are minimal and let's face it he has a level of consistency that is greater than the players below him, if he did not he would not have held onto his fourth place for so long.  I could not believe that they were talking up Berdych's chances of a maiden slam, he is older than Andy, not as good as Andy and not as consistent.  So if he is a possibility, then Andy is a shoe in!!!

I support Murray because he is a brilliant player and a totally likeable guy and also he is one of us, I will continue to support him come what may because I believe he has a lot of qualities that make you appreciate him, his work ethic, his focus, his determination etc.  I still think it will happen for him he just needs his health and a bit of luck re draws etc. 

Finally, I hope that Djoko thrashed the smug one, Rafa annihilates Daveeeeeeed and that Rafa takes the title as Djoko's smugness is becoming akin to the King of Smug himself!!





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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #71 on: June 07, 2012, 10:29 AM »
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My hope is for Wimbledon is that Nole wins a long grueling battle on Sunday and is content in winning all four slams, phones it in at SW19 to save himself for the Olympics and Andy is drawn in Nole's half giving our boy hope to reach the final.  Fingers crossed Fingers crossed Fingers crossed
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #72 on: June 07, 2012, 10:33 AM »
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Totally agree with MM on all counts.I too want Nadal to beat Nole as he is getting too big for his boots, something that Nadal never has done, always been a simple man and well grounded.
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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #73 on: June 07, 2012, 11:08 AM »
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Ugh. I'm tired and sick to death of Andy bashing. The people come on here and say I'm just not gonna not support him anymore. Just gonna watch the tennis general Play. Grab copy. You do that since. You are no longer a Murray fan anymore. Go be a Fed fan. You can get to f**k.  As for the non tennis fans. Get lost.   I will be supporting Andy all the way unlike some pitifall fans on here.  I'm so pissed off.  I wasn't angry that he lost or anything. I was annoyed at some ppls reactions after the match.   Andy played well at RG  to reach the QF stage  I am quite proud of him   yay 

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Re: Murray falls to the little Spanish beast « Reply #74 on: June 07, 2012, 11:35 AM »
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Great post MurrayMagic.  I have always enjoyed Murray's tennis.  My other half said yesterday how boring clay court tennis can be.  Just slug and more slug.  In the match and especially the one against Gasquet Murray brought some really great tennis.  His kind of tennis is difficult on clay and especially if you have a back problem albeit not as bad as last week.  I believe that, in spite of the booing on Monday, the French are partial to Andy's game as he plays exceptional tennis and has his own column in one of their newspapers.  I came on this website to join Murray fans only to find that there are some who could not possibly call themselves that.
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