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Posted on: July 24, 2012, 01:17 AM
Posted by: Aileen
Hi All,

The Karlovic match was scary, although in retrospect I'm not sure whether I lost my marbles watching that one, the Ferrer match or the final. Either way I'm not sure I've fully recovered. I might be in the asylum after the Olympics at this rate!

Interestingly, John Lloyd went in to print to say that Karlovic ought to be fined for what he said about the officials. It does come under the category of bringing the game in to disrepute. The stupid thing was that first Karlovic said it was 11 foot faults, then he said 9. The actual number was apparently nearer 7. I should say that I thought Andy was diplomatic about the issue. I'm glad he didn't allow himself to get dragged in to it too much. I have to say as well that I'm not convinced it would have been the BBC's place to get in to it too much. Sure, if they had been asked to provide video evidence that is one thing, but I think to actively volunteer it could have made them look biased one way or another.

I just thought the Karlovic match was weird because it wasn't Andy's usual style. On balance I prefer his finesse game, that lovely mix of power and touch that he has, but this one was very much one of those matches you have to get through, and he did.

At that point in the tournament it really did feel like everyone was lining up to have a go at Andy. It made me fume. Still, I suppose he was vindicated by doing so well.
For the avoidance of doubt, the comment I made about the BBC was sarcasm.  They, and Andy, did the right thing by keeping their distance from Karlovic's questionable complaints.  I'd be interested to know if Karlovic did in fact lodge an official complaint - but my feeling is that he didn't and that his threat to do so was pure bluster.

It wasn't a pretty match to watch, I agree, but as Andy said - "It's so challenging getting into a rhythm against a guy like that. Tie-breaks can be a lottery against him - you need to get your racquet on the returns and hope he makes a mistake. I thought I returned well today - I didn't get aced too many times today, and I tried to make him play as many shots as possible. I was hitting the ball fairly cleanly on my forehand and I came up with some good passing shots at the right time, and that got me through it."
Posted on: July 23, 2012, 06:28 PM
Posted by: teejay1
Hi All,

The Karlovic match was scary, although in retrospect I'm not sure whether I lost my marbles watching that one, the Ferrer match or the final. Either way I'm not sure I've fully recovered. I might be in the asylum after the Olympics at this rate!

Interestingly, John Lloyd went in to print to say that Karlovic ought to be fined for what he said about the officials. It does come under the category of bringing the game in to disrepute. The stupid thing was that first Karlovic said it was 11 foot faults, then he said 9. The actual number was apparently nearer 7. I should say that I thought Andy was diplomatic about the issue. I'm glad he didn't allow himself to get dragged in to it too much. I have to say as well that I'm not convinced it would have been the BBC's place to get in to it too much. Sure, if they had been asked to provide video evidence that is one thing, but I think to actively volunteer it could have made them look biased one way or another.

I just thought the Karlovic match was weird because it wasn't Andy's usual style. On balance I prefer his finesse game, that lovely mix of power and touch that he has, but this one was very much one of those matches you have to get through, and he did.

At that point in the tournament it really did feel like everyone was lining up to have a go at Andy. It made me fume. Still, I suppose he was vindicated by doing so well.

Posted on: June 30, 2012, 06:15 PM
Posted by: Caz
Well it's not our Andy's fault that the giant can't keep control of his feet which happen to be the size of canal barges! [He gets his shoes made in a shipyard!]
Posted on: June 30, 2012, 03:31 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Andy had no part in this, the line judges decisions, unless of course he has bribed them all, plus the officials who set the match schedules.
And please don't forget the shameful part the BBC played in this by only replaying one of said foot faults in their coverage of the match, thereby concealing the evidence that a conspiracy was going on.  Of course Andy is so unsure of his abilities as a tennis player that palms have to be greased in order to allow him to win matches on Wimbledon's hallowed turf!
Posted on: June 30, 2012, 12:26 PM
Posted by: Fiverings

Maybe the person in question was not up to the job (?), but for that person to deliberately and repeatedly make false Footfault calls is absurd.
Knowing that such a (bias) act could be uncovered and thus would definately be looked into officially.
They would be an absolute idiot to do something so blazen, knowing it would lead to disgrace and a ban from tennis courts in future.
   I understand that more than one judge was involved, which makes it even more unlikely confused
Posted on: June 30, 2012, 10:17 AM
Posted by: lashurst
Nice write up:
http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2012/06/vn.html
But my word this foot fault business has certainly given the haters opportunity to hate. shocking
Of course they'll use it to devalue any wins. Perhaps Wimbledon should publish footage quickly, though I don't know what'll happen if Ivo is right.
Only hope Andy isn't knocked off his stride a bit Fingers crossed
If Andy has a brain (which he has) he'll have put this episode behind him right away. Surely he doesnt read the gutter press articles?

Andy had no part in this, the line judges decisions, unless of course he has bribed them all, plus the officials who set the match schedules.
He has no reason to concern himself about this.

I must say though that there are varying qualities in the way we humans execute our duties. No doubt, some are more competent than others. Surely this can be the case here?
Maybe the person in question was not up to the job (?), but for that person to deliberately and repeatedly make false Footfault calls is absurd.
Knowing that such a (bias) act could be uncovered and thus would definately be looked into officially.
They would be an absolute idiot to do something so blazen, knowing it would lead to disgrace and a ban from tennis courts in future.
Posted on: June 30, 2012, 09:07 AM
Posted by: blueberryhill
Nice write up:
http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2012/06/vn.html
But my word this foot fault business has certainly given the haters opportunity to hate. shocking
Of course they'll use it to devalue any wins. Perhaps Wimbledon should publish footage quickly, though I don't know what'll happen if Ivo is right.
Only hope Andy isn't knocked off his stride a bit Fingers crossed
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 06:09 PM
Posted by: deb
I agree, Aileen but you can bet your life if Andy were to get to the final all his detractors would say he only got there because Nadal was knocked out early.
.  That's right Alis I can hear it already!! Andy has some tough matches to go he has the toughest draw , but we no Andy will be doing his best.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 05:16 PM
Posted by: Alis
I agree, Aileen but you can bet your life if Andy were to get to the final all his detractors would say he only got there because Nadal was knocked out early.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 05:11 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Yes, definitely, since his main hurdle, Rafael Nadal has been beaten...if he doesnt, seriously.... shame on him..
I don't see why the removal of Nadal should automatically help Andy should he make the SF.  There are other hungry players out there and Andy has more hard matches to play even to get that far.  Ultimately it all boils down to physical and mental toughness and how much of both he still has left in the tank if he gets that far.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 04:38 PM
Posted by: Sabine
Andy's seeding says he should reach the final.  Do you think he can do it?

Yes, definitely, since his main hurdle, Rafael Nadal has been beaten...if he doesnt, seriously.... shame on him..
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 04:32 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Andy has twin cousins and they are in Wimbledon. The little girl is one of the twins.
Thanks for the info Michelle.  Strange, but I suppose not unusual, that there's such a big age gap between them.  After all one of my cousins became an uncle at the age of two!
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 03:44 PM
Posted by: michelle
Aw I thought that was so sweet ... lucky little girl!  Judy was there too, so obviously a relative.
Andy has twin cousins and they are in Wimbledon. The little girl is one of the twins.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 03:37 PM
Posted by: Aileen
HOLY CRAP CUTENESS ON BBC RIGHT NOW

Shots of Murray with a small child hugging him for about ... 10 minutes.
Andy grinning. Castle says "Is it Kim?" If it is, she's behaving very inappropriately in public.

Aw I thought that was so sweet ... lucky little girl!  Judy was there too, so obviously a relative.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 03:08 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean
He can certainly do it,
But he could also be knocked out before of course.
If he does make it i hope its his time or he at least really goes out fighting.
If it is another AO 11 or 10 implosion, I might check out for a while as Andy's inability to play his best when it really matters will probably have done a number on me.
Still there is a long way to go.
Lets hope somebody takes out federer as a final against Novak will make Andy less nervous.

Getting tight already, are we, Bill? :p
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 02:17 PM
Posted by: Little Laroo
Murrey played well against Karlovic. Onwards and upwards. Very Happy

Don't want to get ahead of myself but the draw certainly seems to be opening up for Andy. Nadal out and now Raonic too (although if he had made it through I think Murray would've won because Raonic, to me at least, doesn't look like a particularly good rallyer on grass. He breaks down a lot in them). Very Happy
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Posted by: Allan
HOLY CRAP CUTENESS ON BBC RIGHT NOW

Shots of Murray with a small child hugging him for about ... 10 minutes.
Andy grinning. Castle says "Is it Kim?" If it is, she's behaving very inappropriately in public.

I'm sure that's one of his young cousins that was hugging Andy.
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
Posted by: Elena
^Nooooo.. say it ain't so, Elena.
Where does our boy figure in all of this?

If you look at the link it shows max points for Andy is 8260 (if he won), so he would still be in 4th - Nadal has 8905. It's theoretically possible for Ferrer or Tsonga to overtake him, but that's not going to happen

I think Nadal will be 3rd whatever happens, so won't be in Andy's half for a bit
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 01:52 PM
Posted by: scotnadian
Thanks John. This caught my eye:
"..I do like a bowl of porridge on the morning of a match. I'll eat then get my kit together and head in."
When I first read it, I thought he said "kilt.".. lmao

And this..
"My aim is to win the title and I'll do everything I can to achieve that."
As if there was any doubt. Good luck Andy! clap
Posted on: June 29, 2012, 01:45 PM
Posted by: scotnadian
^Nooooo.. say it ain't so, Elena.
Where does our boy figure in all of this?