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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #75 on: June 14, 2011, 03:13 PM »
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Quote from: iamabritt on June 14, 2011, 03:12 PM
In one of the articles i read yesterday JW said it pissed him off and then he said it made him laugh.
As in, pissed him off until he reflected on the match?
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #76 on: June 14, 2011, 03:14 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 14, 2011, 02:53 PM
Back on topic for a moment... did anyone for a second feel that Murray's trick shot, especially as it was done twice, was possibly a little disrespectful to Tsonga?

I'm sure Andy did it just for fun and I'm glad he did it as it got some good press attention. But I tried to put myself in Tsonga's shoes and after such a tough match, wouldn't it feel like your opponent is mocking you?

Yes, very much so. It wasn't at a point when the match was done and dusted, either. That shot said 'I am going to win and there's nothing you can do about it'. Would have thought Tsonga took it well. But if I were Andy, I'd have had a quiet word afterwards, just saying he didn't mean to be disrespectful.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #77 on: June 14, 2011, 03:14 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 14, 2011, 03:13 PM
As in, pissed him off until he reflected on the match?
Yes thats what it sounded like.I think he realized it was done in fun .not to disrepect JW
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #78 on: June 14, 2011, 03:18 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 14, 2011, 02:53 PM
Back on topic for a moment... did anyone for a second feel that Murray's trick shot, especially as it was done twice, was possibly a little disrespectful to Tsonga?

I'm sure Andy did it just for fun and I'm glad he did it as it got some good press attention. But I tried to put myself in Tsonga's shoes and after such a tough match, wouldn't it feel like your opponent is mocking you?
I too think he done it for fun, but I also think it was very much a 'spur of the moment thing'!  A moment of madness! If he'd had time to think about it.........I don't think he would have done it.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #79 on: June 14, 2011, 03:18 PM »
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Quote from: Grabcopy on June 14, 2011, 03:14 PM
Yes, very much so. It wasn't at a point when the match was done and dusted, either. That shot said 'I am going to win and there's nothing you can do about it'. Would have thought Tsonga took it well. But if I were Andy, I'd have had a quiet word afterwards, just saying he didn't mean to be disrespectful.
Glad I'm not the only one then. Maybe they have a good relationship off-court which is why he thought it was OK.

Quote from: iamabritt on June 14, 2011, 03:14 PM
Yes thats what it sounded like.I think he realized it was done in fun .not to disrepect JW
Maybe that comment came after Andy had a chance to talk to him.

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If he'd had time to think about it.........I don't think he would have done it.
Yeah hopefully.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #80 on: June 14, 2011, 03:43 PM »
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I too would be very surprised if he hadn't had a word with Tsonga after the match.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #81 on: June 14, 2011, 04:15 PM »
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Well, just perhaps Andy found Tsonga's show boating quite "pissing off" too.
Andy gets labelled a dour grumpy Scot then when he smiles and does a bit of crowd pleasing himself, he's labelled disrespectful. Can't win.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #82 on: June 14, 2011, 04:15 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 14, 2011, 03:18 PM
Glad I'm not the only one then. Maybe they have a good relationship off-court which is why he thought it was OK.
Maybe that comment came after Andy had a chance to talk to him.
Yeah hopefully.
Tell me though why is it thought disrespectful when done by Andy but Fed does it all the time and nothing is said.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #83 on: June 14, 2011, 04:18 PM »
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Quote from: iamabritt on June 14, 2011, 04:15 PM
Tell me though why is it thought disrespectful when done by Andy but Fed does it all the time and nothing is said.
We have a huge thread about how disrespectful Federer is to his opponents but that's on here. Unfortunately, it seems everywhere else people just look up at him with awe and think he does no wrong.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #84 on: June 14, 2011, 04:22 PM »
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Quote from: Mark on June 14, 2011, 04:18 PM
We have a huge thread about how disrespectful Federer is to his opponents but that's on here. Unfortunately, it seems everywhere else people just look up at him with awe and think he does no wrong.
Point taken.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #85 on: June 14, 2011, 04:59 PM »
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Quote from: Caz on June 14, 2011, 03:18 PM
I too think he done it for fun, but I also think it was very much a 'spur of the moment thing'!  A moment of madness! If he'd had time to think about it.........I don't think he would have done it.
The only reason I think he wouldn't have done it with time to think is because not only did he risk losing a point 'in a final for Gawd's sake', but he'd have looked a right dork as well, if he'd missed! I'm sooo glad he did it though..........it was very funny! w00t
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #86 on: June 14, 2011, 05:55 PM »
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Yeah, I was thinking that it was a very brave move indeed given how he'd look if he didn't win the point.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #87 on: June 14, 2011, 05:57 PM »
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Quote from: blueberryhill on June 14, 2011, 04:15 PM
.......Tsonga's show boating.....

This is why I think he did it and why we are not likely to ever see him pull a stroke like that against most -- if not all -- of the other players.

Tsonga's sense of fun! I like it and I think Andy doe's too.
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #88 on: June 14, 2011, 05:58 PM »
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If Fed did it we would all be talking about what a tennis genius he is, and what a great shot, and how he just flow and plays with style and all that BS.  No-one criticised Tsonga for diving around like a lunatic.  I thought it was really cool, but I wouldn't recommend it too often as it might annoy your opponent.

I hope he does it from time to time, it will be an instant hit in the next tennis console game!
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Re: Murray grinds past Tsonga « Reply #89 on: June 14, 2011, 06:00 PM »
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Quote from: blueberryhill on June 14, 2011, 04:15 PM
Well, just perhaps Andy found Tsonga's show boating quite "pissing off" too.
Andy gets labelled a dour grumpy Scot then when he smiles and does a bit of crowd pleasing himself, he's labelled disrespectful. Can't win.
Since when is diving on court to reach a point the same as doing an unnecessary trick shot?

When I play on grass, I also sometimes dive but I do it for a purpose, not to impress anyone.
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