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Posted on: January 17, 2012, 01:32 AM
Posted by: Aileen
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/01/grounds-pass-117.html

No Hard Feelings? Darn! I Mean . . . Isn't that Nice
After showing off his tennis skills again yesterday, Roger Federer showed off his political skills in the press room. In about 10 words, he took the air out of the brewing Federer-Nadal feud. It was a classy performance. Federer essentially said he’ll never do tour business in public, and that a strike is a dangerous last step. He also said that he was happy and proud that his Little Buddy Rafa was all grown up now, with his own opinions, and that they’ve both been frustrated by recent negotiations.
That, to me, is condescension at it's very worst, yet Rafa apparently took it sitting down.  What a pair of luvvies!
Posted on: January 17, 2012, 01:28 AM
Posted by: IonaRed
From the same blog.....

And In Muzza News...
I’ll finish with a trip back to old England, where the tabs await Andy Murray’s first-round match with American Ryan Harrison. Not surprisingly, the hot-headed Harrison has been transformed by the papers into something approaching a lunatic raised by wolves.

The Daily Mail sets the tone nicely:

MURRAY EMBARKS ON ANOTHER GRAND SLAM QUEST WITH LENDL IN HIS CORNER. AND A CHALLENGE TO TAME THE . . . WILD CHILD!

I linked to the Sun’s headline yesterday, but I’ll do it again, just for fun: “Andy Murray is ready to get right up fiery American Ryan Harrison’s nose.”

The Sun goes on with this nugget of news: “Harrison has a wild reputation and has been known to go bonkers at himself and the umpires.”

Murray knows this, and has apparently planned accordingly: “I’ll try and make him lose his temper early,” Murray said.

What is he going to do, I wonder? Say something about his mother on a changeover? We’ll find out in Hisense in a few hours.
Posted on: January 17, 2012, 01:23 AM
Posted by: IonaRed
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/01/grounds-pass-117.html

No Hard Feelings? Darn! I Mean . . . Isn't that Nice
After showing off his tennis skills again yesterday, Roger Federer showed off his political skills in the press room. In about 10 words, he took the air out of the brewing Federer-Nadal feud. It was a classy performance. Federer essentially said he’ll never do tour business in public, and that a strike is a dangerous last step. He also said that he was happy and proud that his Little Buddy Rafa was all grown up now, with his own opinions, and that they’ve both been frustrated by recent negotiations.

As for Rafa, Little Buddy took a step back and said he wouldn’t be going public with anything anytime soon, no matter how hard the press tried.

—In related news, Neil Harman reported in the London Times that at the World Tour Finals last November, all of the players present (the Top 9), except Federer, were in favor of a two-year ranking system. This may be where Rafa got the idea of the “supermajority” that would vote for his plan, but yesterday Federer again stressed that he was concerned with both high- and lower-ranked players.

What struck me watching both pressers was how mature each of them were about it. Nadal laughed at himself for “talking too much, as usual,” and Federer said that just because they have disagreements doesn’t mean their friendship will be affected.

Bad for the press, yes, but these were nice moments for anyone who likes these two guys.

Posted on: January 17, 2012, 01:00 AM
Posted by: Aileen
Has this apparent rift shattered the Rafa/Federer love in? i suspect in the short term it will but in the long term i suspect not, both Rafa and Federer have too much to lose to allow this spat to fester. By the summer it will be yesterdays news and we'll not remember much about this. None the less its a very interesting development in mens tennis. I'm left wondering if other male players on the tour feel as Rafa does, and will they now speak out also?
wave PT!  Long time no see so long time missed! hug

Re that paragraph, I came across Federer's response in an interview on the ESPN website -

"Things are fine between us, you know. I have no hard feelings towards him. It's been a difficult last few months in terms of politics within the ATP.
 
Nadal has mentioned many times how he gets a bit tired and frustrated through the whole process, and I shared that with him. It's normal. But for me, obviously nothing changes in terms of our relationship. I'm completely cool and relaxed about it."


So presumably after he'd smashed up the settee and kicked the cat, everything is now all sweetness and light?  I'm afraid that, to me, it just shows up Federer's usual arrogance.  I gather that the next players' meeting is to be at Indian Wells, so we'll perhaps hear a little more about it then, and whether or not Rafa's comments have encouraged more of the other top players to speak out.  I won't be holding my breath though waiting for the GOAT to take any kind of lead, although really why should he?  He's no longer No.1 and possibly never will be again.  Never mind his 16 Slams, his day is past and, no disrespect to Andy or Djokovic, I feel that Nadal would be better taking the lead now.



Posted on: January 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Posted by: psychological tennis
Hi PT - perhaps he did confront him in private first and got nowhere?  Hence the uncharacteristic public spat.  Seems to me the successful players are standing up for those further down the rankings in terms of prize money as well.  I hope this shows people how self-centred smugfed is and how he lacks any sense of collective solidarity with the other players.  But not holding my breath. doh

Hi Ruthie - perhaps he did? It is plausable. That said, i like the fact that there seems to be a "brothers in arms" feeling about all this now. "When one wins we all win, and when one loses we all lose" - regarding your comment about collective solidaritary, i could not agree with you more, its going to be interesting to see if Federers PR machine now goes into overdrive and tries to mitigate any damage to the Federer brand.  Think
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 11:23 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
I totally agree with you on that one "Aileen" I've long since suspected that Mr. Federer appeared only interested in himself and his own agendas when it came to speaking up on behalf of the other players rights re: the tour scheduling. I am surprised that Rafa has spoken up so publicly and accused Mr Federer of basically sitting on his behind and simply paying lipservice to the powers that run the ATP tour! Perhaps it would have been more prudent of Rafa to have confronted him (Federer) in private?

Has this apparent rift shattered the Rafa/Federer love in? i suspect in the short term it will but in the long term i suspect not, both Rafa and Federer have too much to lose to allow this spat to fester. By the summer it will be yesterdays news and we'll not remember much about this. None the less its a very interesting development in mens tennis. I'm left wondering if other male players on the tour feel as Rafa does, and will they now speak out also?
Hi PT - perhaps he did confront him in private first and got nowhere?  Hence the uncharacteristic public spat.  Seems to me the successful players are standing up for those further down the rankings in terms of prize money as well.  I hope this shows people how self-centred smugfed is and how he lacks any sense of collective solidarity with the other players.  But not holding my breath. doh
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 10:10 AM
Posted by: blueberryhill
And  hug to u 2! Nice 2 c u back.
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 10:07 AM
Posted by: psychological tennis
Won't say a word about Swiss and "neutrality"....oops I just did... Eyebrow raise.

HA HA HA HA!! hug
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 10:02 AM
Posted by: blueberryhill
Won't say a word about Swiss and "neutrality"....oops I just did... Eyebrow raise.
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
Posted by: psychological tennis
I've posted another article about this on tennis news and Davydenko has waded in.

I guess the other players want their 'president' to stand up a little more for them instead of saying that the schedule is okay for him and that's were the vice president has hit out.  Change of power called for eh?

Totally agree, perhaps a change in the presidency is required. As president, you sometimes have to put your interests on the back burner and think more in tune with the collective, aswell as sometimes sticking your head above the "trench" and taking some hits from those who wish to push the collective harder at cost to the collective. What a time for all this to blow up in Federers face!
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 09:51 AM
Posted by: Bevc
I've posted another article about this on tennis news and Davydenko has waded in.

I guess the other players want their 'president' to stand up a little more for them instead of saying that the schedule is okay for him and that's were the vice president has hit out.  Change of power called for eh?
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 09:48 AM
Posted by: psychological tennis
I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when Mr Smug heard or read about this!  I strongly suspect Mr Cool would have well and truly lost his cool. Very Happy

I totally agree with you on that one "Aileen" I've long since suspected that Mr. Federer appeared only interested in himself and his own agendas when it came to speaking up on behalf of the other players rights re: the tour scheduling. I am surprised that Rafa has spoken up so publicly and accused Mr Federer of basically sitting on his behind and simply paying lipservice to the powers that run the ATP tour! Perhaps it would have been more prudent of Rafa to have confronted him (Federer) in private?

Has this apparent rift shattered the Rafa/Federer love in? i suspect in the short term it will but in the long term i suspect not, both Rafa and Federer have too much to lose to allow this spat to fester. By the summer it will be yesterdays news and we'll not remember much about this. None the less its a very interesting development in mens tennis. I'm left wondering if other male players on the tour feel as Rafa does, and will they now speak out also?
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 03:55 AM
Posted by: scotnadian
Who needs politics when you've got tennis?.... lol
Posted on: January 16, 2012, 12:10 AM
Posted by: Aileen
Do hope so Aileen - and hope it might unsettle smugfed too as he simply doesn't know what it's like to be criticised publically and in particular not by someone as senior as Rafa.
I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when Mr Smug heard or read about this!  I strongly suspect Mr Cool would have well and truly lost his cool. Very Happy
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 10:10 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Give it a try deb and you'll succeed, and your children will think you're wonderful! Seriously, though, if you have any problems get back to me. Smile


It occurs to me that this fall-out between Roger and Rafa could well take away some of the over-whelming attention currently being directed at Andy and Lendl. It's pretty heady stuff!  However, that could just be wishful thinking.
Do hope so Aileen - and hope it might unsettle smugfed too as he simply doesn't know what it's like to be criticised publically and in particular not by someone as senior as Rafa.
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 08:08 PM
Posted by: jdonald
 that is great. i am so pleased Rafa has spoken up, yes Fed has not been interested his day is on the decline does not care.

unfortunately, during the last year he has changed not a fan of mine regardless what he has achieved he has let himself down. not supporting his fellow players.
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 07:10 PM
Posted by: deb
Give it a try deb and you'll succeed, and your children will think you're wonderful! Seriously, though, if you have any problems get back to me. Smile


It occurs to me that this fall-out between Roger and Rafa could well take away some of the over-whelming attention currently being directed at Andy and Lendl. It's pretty heady stuff!  However, that could just be wishful thinking.
Thanks Aileen I will try , I am trying to learn new things that's why I am doing this on my ipad, but it takes me a bit longer but I will get there in the end.  confused . Your right I think it could take the attention away from Andy,  I think it's great Raffa has spoken out, this could run for a while, I am sure a few more journalists will pick up on it!!!!
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 06:22 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Thanks Aileen I will give it a go but I am rubbish, as my children tell me.!!!! But I will try.
Give it a try deb and you'll succeed, and your children will think you're wonderful! Seriously, though, if you have any problems get back to me. Smile


It occurs to me that this fall-out between Roger and Rafa could well take away some of the over-whelming attention currently being directed at Andy and Lendl. It's pretty heady stuff!  However, that could just be wishful thinking.
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 05:51 PM
Posted by: deb
scotn (I think) has posted it in news articles thread -it certainly is good.
Just seen on bbc website that Rafa is actually criticising Fed in public for not putting his weight behind players who are trying to get improvement sin the tour and talks about ok for Fed who is physically privileged and ending his career fresh as a daisy but that he ,, Nole and Andy are not like that! Sorry not the right place to put this probably but a bit pushed for time.
Sorry Ruthie didn't know it was posted, but well worth a read, very interesting about Raffa, at last Fed being criticised!, love it,,
Posted on: January 15, 2012, 05:49 PM
Posted by: deb
And here's the article in question, which I'll put on the right thread, if I can find it -

Rafael Nadal says Roger Federer should speak more on player issues

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/16568225.stm
Hi deb!  All you need to do is go up to the adcdress bar, left click on it to highlight the URL, right click on it and select the "copy" option, and then, when you type your post, place the cursor where you want the article to go, right click and select "paste".  Hope that's clear. Smile



Thanks Aileen I will give it a go but I am rubbish, as my children tell me.!!!! But I will try.