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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #60 on: May 18, 2012, 01:41 PM »
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I Agree, people are too impatient about Lendl.
He just got here and Andy is one stubborn s.o.b. it will definitely take time.
They have it seems been working on the right things too, particularly the forehand. But whats important is lendl is tough and knows how to win slams. its a mental thing and that is why Andy chose him, wisely, in my view but it will take time. Right now it is Andy that is the problem not Ivan but if it really is his back then we must cut him some slack, its unfair not to.
I'm not hopeful for anything more than a quarter final in RG or Wimbledon at this point , but hope to be surprised. But to me the real prize is the US Open. Andy has affected his performance there by hyping up his chances in the past and choking. I think now he might be ready to go very deep, as long as the scheduling is a little fairer than it was last year and New York is not hit by any Hurricanes either.
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Murrability « Reply #61 on: May 18, 2012, 01:53 PM »
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Andy Murray has beaten everybody no there is no doubting his ability
Unfortunately he does not appear to enjoy his job
If he goes on court could he please have fun and go for his shots all the time
We love him and hope, not expect, he will win
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #62 on: May 18, 2012, 02:03 PM »
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We love him and hope, not expect, he will win

Yeah, he deserves our support, even when it's a difficult time...
there are enough critics!
And, move on, there are a lot of nice matches left in Rome for everybody who likes tennis (and watching them without very much wanting that one of them will winn is really relaxing....)
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #63 on: May 18, 2012, 02:51 PM »
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Unfortunately he does not appear to enjoy his job

Maybe 'he does not appear to enjoy his job' because of all the pressure it entails both on and off the court.

What other major sport in Britain is there where there is just one person for the media to focus upon continually - what he says; doesn't say; what he looks like; his relationships; if he's really injured or people think he's telling lies etc etc. All this plus on-court stuff - picking over his relationship with Lendl; his on-court demeanour; style of play; whether he'll ever get a Slam; and if not, he's not achieved anything - picking over each individual win and loss; never mind his own perfectionism.
Just a glance through people's comments at the end of articles - and even on here - people's reactions can be so vitriolic and totally OTT.

I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't get much enjoyment from it all - it's all just too much year in, year out - and I shudder to think of the intensive scrutiny, pressures and expectation that're heading his way over the Summer.



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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #64 on: May 18, 2012, 03:56 PM »
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Couldn’t agree more – excellent post.  Not surprised he looks p***** off – who could live every day with each minute detail being picked up and dissected, and then if it is not the story that people want they just make it up (as so often has happened).

It would help if some of the other GB players were of any use as it would deflect from Andy.  I can’t help thinking of the Team GB tie where he played at Braehead (the first one) he looked like he was going to burst with pride, every person in that arena was on his side – he looked as if he felt safe and could let his guard down and enjoy his tennis.  How often does he get that experience – when he plays at Wimbledon there will always be a minority of “Come on Tims” in the crowd – the pressure must be horrendous.  People may envy his fortune and success but they cannot envy his life. I just wish there was major played in Scotland!!!

But it is typical of GB culture – breed a really great sportsman, build them up then beat them to death when they fall short.  Andy Murray is the best tennis player this country has produced in the open era – without him GB tennis is nothing, no interest, no qualifications for majors etc.  Let’s appreciate him, let’s get behind him and let’s support him whatever happens.

Andy, if you are reading this – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put back on your Scottish saltires, put two fingers up to all your doubters and remember your true fans will always support you.

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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #65 on: May 18, 2012, 04:00 PM »
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Couldn’t agree more – excellent post.  Not surprised he looks p***** off – who could live every day with each minute detail being picked up and dissected, and then if it is not the story that people want they just make it up (as so often has happened).

It would help if some of the other GB players were of any use as it would deflect from Andy.  I can’t help thinking of the Team GB tie where he played at Braehead (the first one) he looked like he was going to burst with pride, every person in that arena was on his side – he looked as if he felt safe and could let his guard down and enjoy his tennis.  How often does he get that experience – when he plays at Wimbledon there will always be a minority of “Come on Tims” in the crowd – the pressure must be horrendous.  People may envy his fortune and success but they cannot envy his life. I just wish there was major played in Scotland!!!

But it is typical of GB culture – breed a really great sportsman, build them up then beat them to death when they fall short.  Andy Murray is the best tennis player this country has produced in the open era – without him GB tennis is nothing, no interest, no qualifications for majors etc.  Let’s appreciate him, let’s get behind him and let’s support him whatever happens.

Andy, if you are reading this – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put back on your Scottish saltires, put two fingers up to all your doubters and remember your true fans will always support you.



Why do you have to bring your anti GB prejudice into every post?
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #66 on: May 18, 2012, 04:07 PM »
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I am not anti GB just think that Andy needs to discover his sense of pride where he played freely and believed in himself and co-incdiently just happened to sport his saltires - just making a point that's all.
You cannot dispute the fact that there are no other players who can give Andy some support and backing - that is clear for all to see.  Also it is blatently true about our media it is just what they do.
Also I was at that tie in Braehead - I did not say that everyone in the arena was Scottish I said that everyone there supported him.  And what I said about Wimbledon is true as has been stated several times before on here and not only by myself.

I am not anti GB just think that having a pride in where you come from can help - look at Djoko!!!
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #67 on: May 18, 2012, 04:28 PM »
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just tell me how  the grass court or hard court season will be better?!.  where is the evidence?  You can't be positive all the time you know.  and if he is injured (supposedly has been injured since the AO) then why the f**k is he playing all these tournaments.?! I would rather have a healthy Andy  then a Andy who is depressed, hurt and fed up.  Why didn't he tell us about this injury sooner?!   it makes no sense to me
John, I agree with you - and I apologise for picking Andy up wrongly because it sounded from his statement as if he hadn't had any rest, however he's now qualified that comment in a newspaper interview saying he hasn't had time for an extended rest - but he's had this since December, yet managed to reach the SF of the AO?  He did mention in an interview there something about a trapped nerve in his back.  If that's the case, then he was extremely unwise not not take an appropriate rest then, because by now he could have a serious problem - http://www.trappednerve.org/

However, he would do himself, and his fans, a big favour if he would stop being so secretive and say what the problem is because not only would it put an end to speculation but also at least we would know just what to be concerned about.  Yes I am worried, and I'm angry with him because I care about him, and would hate to see this very important year for him jeopardised in any way.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #68 on: May 18, 2012, 04:29 PM »
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I think everybody in GB should be very, very proud of Andy Murray
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #69 on: May 18, 2012, 04:40 PM »
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I was at Braehead to MM and you are right the support was tremendous and I think that was what Andy needed at that particular time.  He was on a downer coming into Braehead and after the Davis Cup he looked rejuvenated, he was playing better and winning matches again.  The British public and media seem to have a knack of bringing their celebrities down, whether its in the field of sports or entertainment, its almost as if they feel that people should not be allowed to achieve their full potential without having to continually having a go at them.  I enjoy watching most sports and admire individuals for going out there and trying their best, who knows what or how they are feeling or what is going on in their personal lives which may affect the way they are playing or performing.  I do feel for the British atheletes taking part in the Olympics, if they don't win they will be criticised and if they do win they will be hounded until they say something that the press can use against them or until they fail to win their event sometime in the future.  Why can't everyone just realise that these sports/celebrity individuals are human just like the rest of us and have the same ups and downs in their lives to.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #70 on: May 18, 2012, 04:52 PM »
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Aileen when did he say something about a trapped nerve?  It doesn't sound the likely cause as I don't think he'd have been even able to play in that case.  But hey here I am joining the speculation when I think we should respect Andy's desire to keep the details to himself.  I know it's frustrating not knowing but even if we did know we wouldn't necessarily know how it's affecting Andy.  And Iris I so agree that we should remember Andy is just another human - warts and all.   
And as an English fan I have no problems at all with what MM says.  I sometimes think the wider British public really doesn't deserve a sporting star with Andy's gifts.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #71 on: May 18, 2012, 05:05 PM »
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I'm still upset about watching that match yesterday. I think it's agreed we all care about Andy and want success for him... and that's why passions run high.

Ivan Lendl is currently in Prague for an exhibition, and he was (of course) questioned about Andy today.
Original link: http://www.mediafax.cz/sport/4056651-Legendarni-Ivan-Lendl-se-v-Praze-pripravuje-na-exhibici-s-Jirim-Novakem

"Andy Murray is the player with whom I cooperate very well. He works very hard, otherwise I would not do it. Before we agreed to work together, so we oťukali each other well. I confess hard work and he knows it. The flow drill, which it says is a bit exaggerated. But if someone like me working with the tennis player who wants to work hard, so it would not be any good. I believe that one will win the Grand Slam tournament. Any, but if it was Wimbledon , it would probably be best, "he said of his work and talented Scottish tennis player Ivan Lendl.

This was a google-translate, so the grammar won't be perfect.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #72 on: May 18, 2012, 05:10 PM »
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^^ Google translate does come up with some very strange things - I know, because I use it myself - but we get the drift!  Thanks. Smile


Aileen when did he say something about a trapped nerve?  It doesn't sound the likely cause as I don't think he'd have been even able to play in that case.  But hey here I am joining the speculation when I think we should respect Andy's desire to keep the details to himself.  I know it's frustrating not knowing but even if we did know we wouldn't necessarily know how it's affecting Andy.  And Iris I so agree that we should remember Andy is just another human - warts and all.   
And as an English fan I have no problems at all with what MM says.  I sometimes think the wider British public really doesn't deserve a sporting star with Andy's gifts.
I am not imagining this Ruthie, believe me.  It was in an interview after his AO defeat when he said he would be having a rest because of niggling injuries - and that's when it was mentioned.  I reason I remember that is because at the time I was totally surprised he'd been able to play tennis at all! 

And the reason I think he should elaborate a little, is because his detractors will be having a field day saying he's just bringing this up now as an excuse for losing in Rome and possibly later in RG.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #73 on: May 18, 2012, 05:53 PM »
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What Andy said..
(scroll to bottom of page to watch it)
http://www.tennistv.com/video
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #74 on: May 18, 2012, 06:05 PM »
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I agree with Murray Magic I am certainly proud of Andy and tell me why should he hide his Saltire. After all he is Scottish and I am sure he is very proud of that. You are right he does get pissed off with the constant nit picking he has to face every day in life. I wonder if he had been English he would have to put up with all this crap. I suppose he would eventually be pulled down by the press and media they seem to take delight in  pulling their sports men down. As you say MM look at Wimbledon they still cheer for Tim though god knows why what did he ever win. There is also the issue of class they think he should not be there because he is not in their class and therefore they do not support him could this be because he is not English. But do not say that or you will be accused of being racist. 
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