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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #90 on: May 18, 2012, 10:36 PM »
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I think you have a valid point there, Tessie.  It would also tie in with something that Andy said after his win against Nalbandian - he didn't say in so many words but the inference was that he would be happy with a couple of matches in Rome and, given that they were two long matches, maybe he decided enough was enough.  You may well have hit the nail ont he head and - yes - you are definitely entitled to your opinion!

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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #91 on: May 18, 2012, 10:39 PM »
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so you guys are saying that he gave up and deliberately lost that match ??
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #92 on: May 19, 2012, 12:56 AM »
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Finally watched the last set tonight and then the press afterwards.  Something interesting in the interview and maybe I am reading it wrong but I replayed it 3 times. I think Andy said he didnt win because he needed to rest as this was the only gap he would have until after the Olympics.
Ok this HAS to be a wind-up.
No just an opinion to which i am entitled.........open mind.
With respect to your opinion, Andy is talking nonsense.  There's a three week gap between Wimbledon and the Olympics' tennis.  He could easily fit in a two-week break before training and practising for the Olympics.  I'll bet a lot of players will be doing that because after Wimbledon is a favourite time for many of them to have a holiday anyway.  Trouble is Andy is such a workaholic he would have to go somewhere remote where there isn't a tennis court or a gym, because otherwise he'd only start using these facilities and defeat the purpose of it all.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #93 on: May 19, 2012, 01:04 AM »
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so you guys are saying that he gave up and deliberately lost that match ??
Why not?  Other players do it.  Nadal and Djoko tanked in Madrid because they weren't happy with the surface, Andy throws his match against Gasquet because of injury, so ... Shrug

EDIT:  I've since watched the a replay of the 3rd set.  Certainly towards the end Andy played some pretty stupid shots mixed in with some very good ones, which did seem a little strange, and even my commentator [on tennisTV] noticed it.  His movement seemed OK to me but there's no doubt that by the last two games of that set he was obviously experiencing some discomfort, so I can't imagine he was relishing the idea of an encounter with Ferrer - another match that would have been long and pretty tough.  On the other hand though Andy does NOT like losing matches, so I reckon we'll never know, and probably the less said about it the better.
 
I've listened to that interview three times, but I really don't see what people are getting so excited about.  Andy says that his back was "a little bit sore towards the end" just as it was at the end of the Nalbandian match, but that this was something that he expected "coming back from taking a break when you have a niggle, so the muscles probably get a bit more tired."  It all makes sense to me, but doesn't bode too well for RG where he's going to be faced with playing 4 or 5 setters, albeit with a day's break in between.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #94 on: May 19, 2012, 04:49 AM »
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Just skimmed through since my last post. Here's my solution for immediate relief for Andy:-

Long walks in the Highlands with Kim, Maggie and other doggie.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #95 on: May 19, 2012, 06:37 AM »
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[email protected] yesterday. If Andy came on court clad head to foot in the Scottish flag and, at every opportunity declared himself a Scottish Nationalist who hated the English, I would have no problem at all. I would still love his beautiful game and support him.
You are quite right about the GB media culture too. How they love to blag people up and then shoot them down in flames at the slightest whiff of failure. It's sick.
Andy is playing tennis at a time when two of the truly "Greats" of the game are still active and more than capable of winning slams.
Can Andy's critics on here not understand the depth of his disappointment? He has kept trying his hardest in spite of this. We should be praising him, not burying him.
Do Andy's critics on here actually realise how damn difficult his task is?
 
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #96 on: May 19, 2012, 08:08 AM »
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he's always  injured some way of another.  too much complaining.  he has to man up.   I have put him to win every single clay tournament this year and so far he hasn't even made it past the QF.  very unimpressed.   Its so uncomfortable to watch him play.  Remember the days when Andy used to play brilliant tennis  and used to bagel and BS  people  in STRAIGHT SETS.  Clay or no Clay.  he's number 4 in the world.  this shouldn't be happening. Players ranked below him are playing SO much better than him  like Berdych.  Usually I'm really excited when a GS comes around.  This time I'm not feeling any kind of excitement or hope.  nothing.  I'm not even sure if the grass season will be any different.  This is what we should get to see.  This performance was outstanding from him.  The real Andy Murray.



That was truly amazing tennis from Andy - thanks for posting.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #97 on: May 19, 2012, 08:30 AM »
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[email protected] yesterday. If Andy came on court clad head to foot in the Scottish flag and, at every opportunity declared himself a Scottish Nationalist who hated the English, I would have no problem at all. I would still love his beautiful game and support him.
You are quite right about the GB media culture too. How they love to blag people up and then shoot them down in flames at the slightest whiff of failure. It's sick.
Andy is playing tennis at a time when two of the truly "Greats" of the game are still active and more than capable of winning slams.
Can Andy's critics on here not understand the depth of his disappointment? He has kept trying his hardest in spite of this. We should be praising him, not burying him.
Do Andy's critics on here actually realise how damn difficult his task is?
 
I totally agree with you, it's easy to sit in our armchairs and complain that he has to man up, how many would play through the pain he no doubt has. Very few I would hazard a guess, or go through the training etc. Please give him some slack he's human.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #98 on: May 19, 2012, 08:30 AM »
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What Andy said..
(scroll to bottom of page to watch it)
http://www.tennistv.com/video

That was a terrible interview. So depressed and depressing. He really needs to make more of an effort with the press and he also needs to just stop swearing on court - he seems to have got worse under Lendl. I cringe every time Cowan or Croft have to apologise for his language. Show a bit of self control Andy. A bit of class. We all know you have it.
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #99 on: May 19, 2012, 09:20 AM »
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That was a terrible interview. So depressed and depressing. He really needs to make more of an effort with the press and he also needs to just stop swearing on court - he seems to have got worse under Lendl. I cringe every time Cowan or Croft have to apologise for his language. Show a bit of self control Andy. A bit of class. We all know you have it.

Cowan and Croft take great delight in apologising for Andy's language even when the viewers would not have heard what was said - there have been times when what he was saying was very obviously 'focus' but they still apologise.  They just love to draw attention to anything that shows Andy in a derogatory light.  They don't apologise for the bad language of the other players which is often far worse.

Would you feel like giving an up beat interview just after coming off the court from a gruelling match, not only having lost but also knowing you have an on-going injury to deal with?  Have you watched some of the interviews that athletes give after they have lost a race - many of them refuse even to speak to the media and who could blame them?  Andy is not a natural media man - he is a sportsman doing his best, not only for himself but for all of us.  Give the guy a break!
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #100 on: May 19, 2012, 10:20 AM »
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  clap clap  Well said Alis
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #101 on: May 19, 2012, 10:49 AM »
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Every player gives a downbeat interview after losing. Andy is no different.

Roger usually blames defeat on an injury or simply dismisses that slams are more important.

Novak will either blame it on conditions, niggles or tiredness/allergy.

Rafa will cite knee problems or some other ailment for defeat.

See the pattern....
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #102 on: May 19, 2012, 01:23 PM »
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I get fed up with Croft and the others. Andy is the best plaYER GB have had for over 75 years. They should be encouraging him not undermining his every effort.  I think this is disgusting we are not going to get another in our life time that is for sure,there is no one to follow in his footsteps like the other countries have. So come on Croft and the others support Andy and give him all the support you can muster, us GB people need himin the next few years. I think it is jealousy, what do you think?
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #103 on: May 19, 2012, 01:59 PM »
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Annabelle drives me up the wall - she can't see beyond Federer and his virtues...............
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Re: Lackluster Murray loses to Gasquet « Reply #104 on: May 19, 2012, 02:17 PM »
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I get fed up with Croft and the others. Andy is the best plaYER GB have had for over 75 years. They should be encouraging him not undermining his every effort.  I think this is disgusting we are not going to get another in our life time that is for sure,there is no one to follow in his footsteps like the other countries have. So come on Croft and the others support Andy and give him all the support you can muster, us GB people need himin the next few years. I think it is jealousy, what do you think?

Absolutely, I've always thought it was jealousy - none of the commies ever achieved as much as Andy.  The only British commie I have any time for is Petch - he always tries to be fair and he shoots Croft down in flames on a regular basis!
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