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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #30 on: May 26, 2011, 10:30 PM »
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Post match interview further down the page -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/13560691.stm

Think I underestimated how bad it was out there today. Swirling, gusting winds are horrible to play in. Andy did well to stay competitive and grind out the straight sets win.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #31 on: May 27, 2011, 02:06 AM »
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Quote from: Sir Panda on May 26, 2011, 10:30 PM
Post match interview further down the page -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/13560691.stm

Think I underestimated how bad it was out there today. Swirling, gusting winds are horrible to play in. Andy did well to stay competitive and grind out the straight sets win.
Thanks for the link Andrew.  I think most of us underestimated just exactly what the conditions were like.

Hopefully people will read the article and listen to what Murray has to say then they might understand better what both players were up against - and I'd add to that not only the wind but also the occasional mini dust-storms which blew grit into their eyes.  Hellish.

Andy awarded himself an 'A' for this match, and, given what we now know, I think few would disagree with him.


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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #32 on: May 27, 2011, 02:57 AM »
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Good performance from Murray despite the conditions.  Another 3 set victory is exactly what was required.  The draw has really opened up for him, hopefully he can take care of Berrer and then Dolgopolov or Troicki.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #33 on: May 27, 2011, 09:21 AM »
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Interesting! In Andy's quarter of the draw, there are only 2 other seeds still remaining - Dolgopolov (21) and Troicki (15) - and they meet next round.

On this basis, Andy should at least reach the semi-final, and if he does then, --------- we can only wish.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #34 on: May 27, 2011, 10:08 AM »
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I think he will reach the SF.  The more interesting question is whether Nole and Nadal will make that stage as well.  Federer always has a nice draw.  Djokovic v Del Potro could be a great match later, and I can't imagine Nole is happy about having to play someone as good so early.  Delpy has shown some signs of good form recently, and I would expect him to at least take Nole very close.  And then in the next round he may have to play against an inspired gasquet and take on a partisan home crowd, what a match that would be.  Nadal's biggest worry is Soderling who has been very efficient thus far.  I have a feeling that one of the big two will not make it to the semi final. 
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #35 on: May 27, 2011, 10:27 AM »
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ES showed good chunks of the match yesterday evening and earlier Mats W was unusually positive about Andy's performance.  I have to say, having seen just how bad the conditions were and how Andy just went about his business to get the job done, even if he faltered on the way, I think the more positive re-evaluation being called for is the right one.  Andy can take good heart from this and so can we.  That said I'm still glad I was watching from the calm serenity of the knowledge he'd won; otherwise I suspect I'd have been matching you Caz for the swear count.

As the draw opens up even more, with Troicki the highest seed between Andy and a SF against Rafa [who is not playing his best yet] , it makes me increasingly  nervous I have to say.  It's a gift of course, but in the past Mr Tragic has sometimes snatched the gift from under the nose of Mr Magic, leaving us all doubly frustrated.  So Andy let Mr Tragic wander lost around the Paris metro like you apparently did the other day and bring on Mr Magic to weave his spells.   cmon yeah
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #36 on: May 27, 2011, 10:48 AM »
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Just caught a few minutes of highlights. The conditions were clearly ridiculous - reminded me of the IW final in 2009, when both players were having to change their stances and strikes as the ball bounced and completely change trajectory.

I thought Andy looked quite pleased with himself and positive in his body language at the end - seemed to appreciate that he'd come through in a tricky match. Onwards and upwards - draw looks nice now, I fancy the semis and (dare I say it) perhaps a final? nervous
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #37 on: May 27, 2011, 11:08 AM »
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Quote from: Joe on May 27, 2011, 10:48 AM
and (dare I say it) perhaps a final? nervous


fainting  I daren't dream that as I don't want to jinx him but it would be SO good yes
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #38 on: May 27, 2011, 11:43 AM »
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Quote from: scotsgeek28 on May 26, 2011, 08:56 PM
I was distinctly unimpressed by Nigel's writing and analysis, and the sycophantic replies make me laugh.  The results today tell the whole story, with all the seeded players going out.  Andy dodged a bullet, and we should be delighted about that.  Performance level at this stage is almost irrelevant. In a similar position at RG in previous years he has become downbeat and lost the plot completely.  Berdych last year was a classic example of that.  His demeanour on court thus far is much better.  He knuckled down and ground it out in difficult conditions.  The draw has opened up further with the departure of Melzer.  If Andy can't make the SF here now, there is no hope for him really as a clay contender.

Ok, so it wasn't a great match, but Bollelli did very well I thought, and Andy fought back well in the first and then the final set.  Anyone who thinks he is going to waltz through all the rounds with sparkling tennis living in a fantasy land. Today was a good workout and very promising I think.  Andy in previous years would DEFINITELY have lost a set today, and probably the match.  To say he made a "Spag bol" of it is to miss the point completely.  And as for re-assessing his tactics, absolute nonsense.  Did the job well in conditions where it was hard to really hit through the court.  Next round will be much easier.

Well said, i think too many of here, underestimated just how bad the conditions were, Andy's italian opponent played well at times. Lets give credit where it is due. Andy played well all things considered. Like the calmer approach he seems to be adopting. We only have to look at Meltzer to see what happens if you underestimate your opponent and do not handle the weather conditions adequately!! See you in round three Andy.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #39 on: May 27, 2011, 12:03 PM »
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Well done Andy!  clap clap  Was not an easy match with the strong swirling wind, but Andy kept it together and never lost his concentration through the whole match. I thought he did really well considering the conditions.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #40 on: May 27, 2011, 12:13 PM »
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Yes, conditions were bad yesterday but my commentary team - couple of Aussies, both tennis players (Fred Stolle and Mark Woodford) - were urging Andy to stop standing 6 feet behind the baseline and when he didn't do that, he was being more aggressive and winning more points. 

I have seen worse reports that have received less criticism.

I find it reassuring that Andy, whilst beating himself up for missing the odd shot/point, didn't panic when he was a break down and played aggressive tennis to break back.

It wasn't an easy game to watch at times and I, for one, was overjoyed to see that Andy had won in straight sets as he was a break down in the 3rd set when I left him.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #41 on: May 27, 2011, 01:27 PM »
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Quote from: Bevc on May 27, 2011, 12:13 PM
Yes, conditions were bad yesterday but my commentary team - couple of Aussies, both tennis players (Fred Stolle and Mark Woodford) - were urging Andy to stop standing 6 feet behind the baseline and when he didn't do that, he was being more aggressive and winning more points. 


I feel that in Andy's case, old habits die hard. It will take him some time with the appropriate coach's continual instructions to wean Andy away from standing so deep.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #42 on: May 27, 2011, 05:06 PM »
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Delpy and Djoko up soon.  Looking forward to it.  Though has to be doubtful whether they will be able to finish tonight if it is a long match.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #43 on: May 27, 2011, 05:10 PM »
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Andy 2nd on Lenglen tomorrow.
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Re: Murray makes a spag Bol of beating Italian « Reply #44 on: May 27, 2011, 05:34 PM »
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I will be out so I won't be able to watch it.  Tsonga better win this tiebreak, let's have some real tennis.
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