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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #60 on: September 11, 2011, 04:27 PM »
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Hopefully Andy can regroup and focus on the rest of the year to accrue as many points as possible. End the year high and give your absolute best at WTF - more of the same attacking tennis displayed in the 3rd set with a mix of S/V which brought some success against Rafa.

Guys, Andy is having a career best year so far with a F and 3 SF in all slams. Sure it didn't end with a slam victory but hopefully he can build on that next year starting at AO, where he will benefit from a fairer scheduling. Although he has said that USO is his favourite tournament but I think he feels more at home at Australian Open - it's by no coincidence he has reached the last 2 finals.

Andy gives himself the opportunity to get to SF/F of slams and one day he will lift one of the major trophy. Yes an attitude adjustment is required to try and remain focus and calm, I'm sure Andy knows this. Hopefully a new coach could help in that regard. He only needs to look at Djokovic to see that a turnaround is possible.

Keep believing.
well said  SYC23, he still has plenty of time to sort things out, i am sure he will. I for one will always keep believing.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #61 on: September 11, 2011, 04:29 PM »
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Hey Ruthie, i'll take it as such. I think you've got a valid point re: Andy's natural modesty, i didn't look at it the way you suggested, on balance you may be right. hug
He's probably just taking his cue from Rafa using humility in order to ease the off the pressure on himself.
And let's face it The others were/are legends of the game, with present exception of Novak (for now)
He is not.
But it is a great accomplishment and shows you just how good he really is and is still improving.
And he needs to improve yet further as the top 3 are simply better than him.
The are more technically solid and have real mental toughness that he really doesn't quite possess.
Here's the nice part of my post, as ive said before, the other 3 are now either playing to near full capacity (Novak) or are in decline (eg Federer maybe even Nadal)
Andy has a clear path to improvement and the most excess space to get on with in this department.
That much is clear.
We have short memories also because 
Novak was the same only less than a year ago & was being written off on TV. But he found a way to get it together, and I don't mean the gluten diets, I mean the mental side of the game & the threat of Federer and Nadal.
Andy was something of a basket case for a lot of last night.
He may have been somewhat fatigued, but all of the swearing and muttering etc (giving encouragement to Rafa).Really, you cannot be this negative when you are performing on the big stage. It literally freezes your ability to perform he needs to understand this & aggressively deal with it.
His mentality is the final component that must be dealt with urgently. No one is more talented than him & if and when he sorts it out, the forehand, agression, the serve etc shall all improve considerably and he shall start to peak the way Novak is doing right now, with hopefully similar results.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #62 on: September 11, 2011, 04:35 PM »
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I too have followed Andy's career since the "wild haired scottish laddie" burst onto the scenes at Wimbledon.  I have watched every match at this year's USO and here are my thoughts for what they are worth !!!  Andy's match last night sets 1 and 2 - he overthought about what he had to do - Set 3 - did what he had to do and boy did it pay off Set 4 - everything caught up on him both physically and mentally.  But he played some of the most amazing tennis during his defeat to Rafa - anyone else (barring Djoko) on the other side of the net and he would have been in the finals.  Let's not lost hope Andy is the best tennis player we have had in a mighty long time - he has amazing hand skills, shot making and now fitness levels all of which are required to win that elusive first GS - yes each defeat hurts but if we are feeling like this what must he be feeling like!!!  I for one will support him till the end GS or no GS purely because he brings something different to the court he plays beautiful tennis much of it breathtaking at times.  It is unfortunate that he plays in the same era as Rafa and Nole (I personally think that Fed will not recover from that defeat last night).  Nole has proved you can do - Andy has 99% of the ingredients for the recipe that will get him there - that 1% lies unknown - trust him he will do it - I think the positive influence of Darren Cahill and Sven Groeneveld has paid off this year - his most consistent year at the slams that in itself is an achievement that no other British player has achieved - lets celebrate what we have and lets be proud of our Scottish Enigma who can take your breath away with one swat of that racket.  Andy please come home to the Braehead Arena and let the crowd give you a scottish welcome home to lift your spirits - you will always be a hero in your homeland.  Yes it is another defeat at the hands of Rafa but having watched that whole match last night I don't think I have ever seen him play that well this year - he seems to save something that little bit special for when he plays our boy.  Andy's tennis last night was not disappointing - he played some excellent stuff - I would have been more disappointed if he had lost in the manner that Fed did.  For just now we just have to trust that with each defeat Andy learns a little bit more - perhaps last night has given 0.25% of the missing ingredient.  I for one will just end by saying I am proud to be an Andy Murray fan - he is unique, he is talented, he strong and most of all he is an individual.  Let's be proud and let's celebrate this young man for what he is one of the BEST and most CONSISTENT tennis players in the world - that is no mean feat.  Come on Muzza.
Thanks M.M, i too felt like Chris Mac,  lovely sensible words.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #63 on: September 11, 2011, 05:02 PM »
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As soon as we saw him struggling to hold serve in the first few games, with Rafa easily holding his, didn't we all know in our heart of hearts, he would lose?
If his serve's misfiring he can beat lower ranked players, but it's still a struggle, but not the top 3.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #64 on: September 11, 2011, 05:05 PM »
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As soon as we saw him struggling to hold serve in the first few games, with Rafa easily holding his, didn't we all know in our heart of hearts, he would lose?
If his serve's misfiring he can beat lower ranked players, but it's still a struggle, but not the top 3.

To beat Rafa on hard courts, he has to pulverise the ball. This slower surface was never going to make that possible.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #65 on: September 11, 2011, 05:06 PM »
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Grabcopy, is it slower than 2008, then?
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #66 on: September 11, 2011, 05:07 PM »
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Yes, they put too much sand in the mix or something. Also, bad weather and the hurricane left tiny specks of debris that they didn't have time to powerwash away.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #67 on: September 11, 2011, 05:09 PM »
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Grabcopy, cheers, otherwise it looks horribly like he's gone backwards from form in 2008 Frown
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #68 on: September 11, 2011, 05:17 PM »
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I had the idea watching him chuntering away at his box early in the first set that he just needed something surprising to lighten his mood a bit. I thought Kim should hold up a giant teddy with "I wuv you Andy" on it and make it do a little wave at him or something...
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #69 on: September 11, 2011, 06:03 PM »
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Ditto Deb - great post MM - you have put into words exactly how, I am sure,  most of us feel.  We are priveleged to have such a great player and unassuming young man representing Britain among the elite in this golden era of tennis greats.  I will relish watching Andy for the next 6 years or so and hope he goes from success to success.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #70 on: September 11, 2011, 06:33 PM »
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Ditto Deb - great post MM - you have put into words exactly how, I am sure,  most of us feel.  We are priveleged to have such a great player and unassuming young man representing Britain among the elite in this golden era of tennis greats.  I will relish watching Andy for the next 6 years or so and hope he goes from success to success.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #71 on: September 11, 2011, 06:55 PM »
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We have to remember Andy is number 4 in the rankings, and this year the top 4 have pulled away from the rest.  McEnroe said how Andy has improved so much this year and continues to do so.
Fedex is on his way out, Nadal by the physical game he plays puts too much stress on his body to play for many more years at such a high level. The Joker will be the real rival in the future. Andy will grow by leaps and bounds once he gets the GS monkey off his back. (and he will next year).
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #72 on: September 11, 2011, 07:40 PM »
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 welcome Big V your right, its just a matter of time, and we forget Djoko turned pro i think two years before Andy, and as Theycanbillme rightly said a year ago the were writing of Djoko. we still have a lot to cheer about. yay
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #73 on: September 11, 2011, 07:43 PM »
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I agree that the top 4 have pulled away, but the top 2 have also pulled away from the others,
And tomorrow unless he is too tired I predict Novak shall show everyone that he has Nadal's number.
I don't know why anyone here would want Nadal to win anyway unless of course you are fans of his, as it is Novak that is showing
What Andy needs to do, hopefully not by adopting his better than Nadal like grinding game, but rather for his overall mental attitude and the level of composure he's achieved when so many didn't think it would happen for him.
At least like this.
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Re: Murray out as Spanish bull sees red « Reply #74 on: September 11, 2011, 07:55 PM »
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I agree that the top 4 have pulled away, but the top 2 have also pulled away from the others,
And tomorrow unless he is too tired I predict Novak shall show everyone that he has Nadal's number.
I don't know why anyone here would want Nadal to win anyway unless of course you are fans of his, as it is Novak that is showing
What Andy needs to do, hopefully not by adopting his better than Nadal like grinding game, but rather for his overall mental attitude and the level of composure he's achieved when so many didn't think it would happen for him.
At least like this.

yes i agree to,but for me and this is just what i would like to happen is Nadal over take Federer in G,S. titles because i can not stand the Guy, and i dont wont Djoko to pull to far ahead of Andy ( he has done very well) , just being selfish i know!!
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