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Posted on: October 14, 2011, 12:51 PM
Posted by: Alis


I always try to be fair with my match reports and give an honest appraisal. The match was ugly, Murray wasn't playing well but he did win. What do you want me to do? Write a report with no connection to reality?

Winning ugly isn't a bad thing. Sometimes players have bad days, and the ability to fight through that and find a way to win is what separates the likes of Murray from the hot and cold wannabes like Soderling.


I don't doubt that your report was your honest appraisal of the match Boogers.  I just look at things differently i.e. I think Andy did play well for a large proportion of the match - I don't think he had a bad day - just patches where he mistimed his shots.  IMO the result of the match was never in doubt.  

I don't think either of us are wrong in our appraisal - we just look at things differently.  I drive my husband mad because I always see the glass half full whereas he drives me nuts because he is such a pessimist - he says he's just a realist.  Perhaps I should introduce the two of you - you're bound to see eye to eye!
Posted on: October 14, 2011, 12:39 PM
Posted by: OldScotSupport
Anyone else having trouble accessing the ATP site today?

It's now back to normal
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 08:40 PM
Posted by: tomthoms
I missed Andy's match, tried to figure the time off the UK time and just didn't work, so glad everyone was in here sending him good vibes.  Fortunately, I jumped up and put on my DVR so if the match is replayed this afternoon I may get it.

Hi Apollo,
this web site is the answer to your timing problems;

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 08:37 PM
Posted by: boogers
Glad to see you're in your usual positive mood Boogers - do you ever see a glass half full?

I think there's a clear difference between the tone of my match reports and the tone of my pessimism and bile filled during-the-match forum posts.

I always try to be fair with my match reports and give an honest appraisal. The match was ugly, Murray wasn't playing well but he did win. What do you want me to do? Write a report with no connection to reality?

Winning ugly isn't a bad thing. Sometimes players have bad days, and the ability to fight through that and find a way to win is what separates the likes of Murray from the hot and cold wannabes like Soderling.

Good report, Phil. As ever mixing negatives along with positives.

There is no doubt that Brad Gilbert would have been proud of Andy. It was a fairly ugly win. However, don't forget that in Tokyo he had a difficult first match against Marcos Baghdatis and from then on it was win after win.

Andy to retain his Shanghai Masters title.

Thank you. Sometimes a sticky early match is a good thing. And yes - I'd be disappointed if he didn't retain the title (and kick Fed into fourth spot).
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 08:18 PM
Posted by: Lejla Federer
 yay  clap congrats dear  wub good luck for next matches that you're going to play  hug
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 07:05 PM
Posted by: Alis
Anyone else having trouble accessing the ATP site today?
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 07:01 PM
Posted by: Aileen
Re Tursunov's "injury" - first of all it was reported to be his right thigh, then it became his wrist, and then lo and behold he's able to play doubles today.

I'm prepared to concede that wherever it was there was problem although probably little more than a twinge, but still find it odd that he apparently waited until an hour after the match was scheduled to be played before informing the organisers that he would withdraw. 
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 06:35 PM
Posted by: OldScotSupport
Good report, Phil. As ever mixing negatives along with positives.

There is no doubt that Brad Gilbert would have been proud of Andy. It was a fairly ugly win. However, don't forget that in Tokyo he had a difficult first match against Marcos Baghdatis and from then on it was win after win.

Andy to retain his Shanghai Masters title.
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 06:30 PM
Posted by: Bevc
I missed Andy's match, tried to figure the time off the UK time and just didn't work, so glad everyone was in here sending him good vibes.  Fortunately, I jumped up and put on my DVR so if the match is replayed this afternoon I may get it.

You'll have to let me know where in USA you are and we could try and incorporate more time zones in threads (if we remember old ) I know NY is 5 hours behind UK.
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 06:25 PM
Posted by: Alis
Glad to see you're in your usual positive mood Boogers - do you ever see a glass half full?

Andy played some very good stuff today - sure there were peaks and troughs but given a first match, tricky opponent, change of  surface, different balls and a closed roof etc. etc. I reckon - unlike you - Andy will be well pleased with his performance. 

Perhaps he decided he wanted some match practice and thought he would have some fun with his detractors by taking it to three!!!!
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 06:11 PM
Posted by: Caz
The ATP article said it was his wrist, of course there acn be confusion at times, but whaterver it was, it disappeared quickly.  Rolling Eyes
Bad for him as he lost the dubs too.  w00t
Good! Serves him right!
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 05:22 PM
Posted by: lashurst
Tursonov (SP) had a thigh injury and not wrist as we thought, but guess it got better overnight.  Haha probably figured that Andy would make his injury worse and then he wouldn't be able to play doubles match.
The ATP article said it was his wrist, of course there acn be confusion at times, but whaterver it was, it disappeared quickly.  Rolling Eyes
Bad for him as he lost the dubs too.  w00t
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 05:17 PM
Posted by: deb
Tursonov (SP) had a thigh injury and not wrist as we thought, but guess it got better overnight.  Haha probably figured that Andy would make his injury worse and then he wouldn't be able to play doubles match.
Yes your right Apollo, very quick recovery !! still who cares as long as  Andy wins yay
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 05:15 PM
Posted by: lashurst
I missed Andy's match, tried to figure the time off the UK time and just didn't work, so glad everyone was in here sending him good vibes.  Fortunately, I jumped up and put on my DVR so if the match is replayed this afternoon I may get it.
Shame about that Apollo. Hope you get the recording of it. New opportunity tomorrow!
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 05:14 PM
Posted by: deb
No it doesn't...
Thanks Allan, phew glad about that!!
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 04:25 PM
Posted by: Apollo
I missed Andy's match, tried to figure the time off the UK time and just didn't work, so glad everyone was in here sending him good vibes.  Fortunately, I jumped up and put on my DVR so if the match is replayed this afternoon I may get it.
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 04:20 PM
Posted by: Apollo
Great Andy wins dont mind how, Nadal out so go Andy. Does anyone know how the guy Andy was playing yesterday had a bad wrist, then played doubles today!!  and does that mean when Andy wins he dosnt get the full 1000 points?  confused
Tursonov (SP) had a thigh injury and not wrist as we thought, but guess it got better overnight.  Haha probably figured that Andy would make his injury worse and then he wouldn't be able to play doubles match.
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 03:39 PM
Posted by: Allan
Does anyone know how the guy Andy was playing yesterday had a bad wrist, then played doubles today!!  and does that mean when Andy wins he dosnt get the full 1000 points?  confused
No it doesn't...
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 03:33 PM
Posted by: deb
Great Andy wins dont mind how, Nadal out so go Andy. Does anyone know how the guy Andy was playing yesterday had a bad wrist, then played doubles today!!  and does that mean when Andy wins he dosnt get the full 1000 points?  confused
Posted on: October 13, 2011, 03:22 PM
Posted by: Caz
Good report Boogers.......Thanks!