Home Search Calendar Help Login Register
Did you miss your activation email?
MurraysWorld Discussions  >  Murray Community  >  News  >  Murray the Goliath defeats David 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 12 Go Down Reply
Author Topic: Murray the Goliath defeats David  (Read 5312 times)
scotnadian
World No 1
*******
Posts: 11,178

Gender: Female
Location: Toronto, Canada (ex Aberdeen, Scotland)


You (still) ain't seen nothing yet..

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #30 on: October 16, 2011, 08:35 PM »
Reply with quote

IP Logged
Tessie
ATP Level
***
Posts: 1,831

Gender: Female
Location: The South


Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #31 on: October 16, 2011, 08:35 PM »
Reply with quote

Great match, another title !!  WELL DONE ANDY!!

I just wish I could have been a fly on the wall when Federer got the news!
IP Logged
Grabcopy
Top Seed
*
Posts: 6,570

Gender: Male
Location: Catatonia


I know I'm paranoid. But am I paranoid enough?

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #32 on: October 16, 2011, 09:27 PM »
Reply with quote

It was interesting that Murray's forehand did the damage today, while his usually reliable backhand took a little holiday. If you look at the stats, the forehand coughed up about 2 UEs.

He says after the USO, he sat down with his team to work out what he could do better to bridge the gap on the top three. I'm wondering if they worked on his forehand and serve.
IP Logged
Joe
Top Seed
*****
Posts: 5,570

Gender: Male
Location: London


Boo hoo hoooooooo :'(

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #33 on: October 16, 2011, 09:47 PM »
Reply with quote

It was interesting that Murray's forehand did the damage today, while his usually reliable backhand took a little holiday. If you look at the stats, the forehand coughed up about 2 UEs.

He says after the USO, he sat down with his team to work out what he could do better to bridge the gap on the top three. I'm wondering if they worked on his forehand and serve.

Those were the natural choices!

I hope this little run leads on to bigger things. I must admit that, after the USO, I'd resigned myself to Murray's career being defined by the 'nearly' moments in the GSs and an eventual retirement with a solid career devoid of any major wins. These few weeks have rekindled my optimism, as sparse as the field ended up in Shanghai. We'll know a lot more in about six months time about the state of Andy's game going into 2012. I pray that he can 'do a Djoko' and push on towards the elusive GS win...

EDIT: Should have been 'in about six weeks time'!
[ Last edit by Joe October 17, 2011, 09:22 AM ] IP Logged
lashurst
Veteran
******
Posts: 9,085

Gender: Female
Location: Norway


Murray Mad

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #34 on: October 16, 2011, 10:00 PM »
Reply with quote

Quote from: scotnadian
ANDY MURRAY WINS SHANGHAI AGAIN[/url]
Thanks for sharing that with us. What a nice guy he is as well as a great player. Such a pleasure to watch that video clip.

IP Logged
Aileen
Murraymaniac
**********
Posts: 31,482

Gender: Female
Location: Edinburgh


Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #35 on: October 17, 2011, 01:46 AM »
Reply with quote

I think it's only natural to be nervous bbh.  The key is how he deals with the nerves.  This is where rescue remedy, deep breathing, meditation etc come in.  
 
Absolutely agree, Ruthie.  Anybody who says they never feel nervous must be sub-human.   Also nervousness properly controlled can only be a good thing because it's that that gives competitors an edge to their performance by getting the adrenalin going, but too much adrenalin can be counter-productive. like causing muscles to tense up.

I hope this little run leads on to bigger things. I must admit that, after the USO, I'd resigned myself to Murray's career being defined by the 'nearly' moments in the GSs and an eventual retirement with a solid career devoid of any major wins. These few weeks have rekindled my optimism, as sparse as the field ended up in Shanghai. We'll know a lot more in about six months time about the state of Andy's game going into 2012. I pray that he can 'do a Djoko' and push on towards the elusive GS win...
Joe, I felt exactly as you did, only with me it started after this year's AO, and like you, and everyone else on MW, I truly hope that he can emulate Djokovic and achieve his ultimate goal very soon.

I just wish I could have been a fly on the wall when Federer got the news!
I have a wonderful image of Fed glued to his TV screen whilst holding a little wax effigy of Andy into which he was sticking pins! Very Happy
IP Logged
blueberryhill
Veteran
******
Posts: 9,298



Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #36 on: October 17, 2011, 06:49 AM »
Reply with quote

Grabcopy the improvement in his forehand looks brilliant, starting to look like a real weapon. Now it's time to work on that second serve, last piece of the puzzle, he's something like 50th for points won on it.
Of course everyone has "nerves" that's not my point. If Andy, playing so well has "nerves" against lesser opponents, I feel excessive nerves are contributing to his poor performances in slam finals. By the time Andy gets over them, usually in the third set, the match is lost.
Read an interesting, wry little comment elsewhere, something like "perhaps now the conspiracy of putting Andy in Rafa's half (in order to secure a Fedal final) is now set to backfire."   Wink
IP Logged
Ruthie
Veteran
******
Posts: 7,794

Gender: Female
Location: East Midlands


Touch the sky - and touch it he did.

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #37 on: October 17, 2011, 08:49 AM »
Reply with quote


Thanks for for that scotnadian - a good interview I thought.  On Radio4 earlier they said Andy had said that Nole's example had been an inspiration for his recent resurgence.
Oh and bbh I do agree about nerves in GS finals.  But again it's how he deals with them.  He'd be inhuman not to feel nervous but as you say he has to have a way of getting on top of them quickly and then, as Aileen said, using them to fire up the adrenalin.
IP Logged
deb
ATP Level
***
Posts: 2,450

Gender: Female
Location: Sussex


I'd like to be impartial, but I can't!

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #38 on: October 17, 2011, 10:56 AM »
Reply with quote

Thanks for the interview Scotnadian, so proud of Andy ,  welcome by the way.
IP Logged
psychological tennis
Challenger Level
**
Posts: 815

Gender: Male
Location: UK - Worthing


Koala's are cute and cuddly

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #39 on: October 17, 2011, 01:16 PM »
Reply with quote

The topic about nerves is right on point. Additionally Aileens initial input re: controlling nerves/then use to focus ones performance is pretty much how it is when it comes to human physiology. Changing the subject slightly, now that Andy is world number three, how will his detractors now define him when compared to Nole, Rafa and Roger? Previously, when he was world number four he was more often than not talked about as being out outside of the club, Now that he has split that club potentially, how will he be defined in relation to the other three, considering that Roger is now below him and that he is within striking distance of Rafa (presently closer to Roger than to Rafa)? Interesting Conundrum, considering this is the yard stick his detractors use as their definition parameters. Will they say the big four and really mean it, or will thay say the big three excluding Roger, the same way Our Andy was sometimes over looked when he was world number four?  confused  confused
IP Logged
iamabritt
World No 1
*******
Posts: 10,805

Gender: Female
Location: florida

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #40 on: October 17, 2011, 03:34 PM »
Reply with quote

Great win for Andy.Jonathon Overend wrote that the hotel    had a red carpet out for him and a celebration after his match .
IP Logged
deb
ATP Level
***
Posts: 2,450

Gender: Female
Location: Sussex


I'd like to be impartial, but I can't!

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #41 on: October 17, 2011, 03:53 PM »
Reply with quote

The topic about nerves is right on point. Additionally Aileens initial input re: controlling nerves/then use to focus ones performance is pretty much how it is when it comes to human physiology. Changing the subject slightly, now that Andy is world number three, how will his detractors now define him when compared to Nole, Rafa and Roger? Previously, when he was world number four he was more often than not talked about as being out outside of the club, Now that he has split that club potentially, how will he be defined in relation to the other three, considering that Roger is now below him and that he is within striking distance of Rafa (presently closer to Roger than to Rafa)? Interesting Conundrum, considering this is the yard stick his detractors use as their definition parameters. Will they say the big four and really mean it, or will thay say the big three excluding Roger, the same way Our Andy was sometimes over looked when he was world number four?  confused  confused
Hi P.T. i hope now that they exclude Roger now, he has had his day, ( excellent as it was with 16 slams , still cant stand the guy!! ) Andy has proved what amazing tennis he can play in as many weeks, and yes he still needs a slam or  2/3//4 , which is not far away now i feel, and the next few masters and the O2 will really show us how far our Andy can go, it will be so interesting to watch. I feel very confident in Andy he really seems to have sat down with his team to change and sort out what he now needs to do.
IP Logged
deb
ATP Level
***
Posts: 2,450

Gender: Female
Location: Sussex


I'd like to be impartial, but I can't!

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #42 on: October 17, 2011, 03:54 PM »
Reply with quote

Great win for Andy.Jonathon Overend wrote that the hotel    had a red carpet out for him and a celebration after his match .
That is so lovely, he deserves it.
IP Logged
Apollo
Veteran
******
Posts: 8,959

Gender: Female
Location: America - Midwest


Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #43 on: October 17, 2011, 04:01 PM »
Reply with quote

The topic about nerves is right on point. Additionally Aileens initial input re: controlling nerves/then use to focus ones performance is pretty much how it is when it comes to human physiology. Changing the subject slightly, now that Andy is world number three, how will his detractors now define him when compared to Nole, Rafa and Roger? Previously, when he was world number four he was more often than not talked about as being out outside of the club, Now that he has split that club potentially, how will he be defined in relation to the other three, considering that Roger is now below him and that he is within striking distance of Rafa (presently closer to Roger than to Rafa)? Interesting Conundrum, considering this is the yard stick his detractors use as their definition parameters. Will they say the big four and really mean it, or will thay say the big three excluding Roger, the same way Our Andy was sometimes over looked when he was world number four?  confused  confused
Yes I wonder that myself, often commentators would talk about the top three and totally blow off Andy's accomplishments. So now we will see if they include him more or if they talk about what Roger needs to do to get back his #3.

Thanks Scotnadian for the interview, and welcome  welcome  I'm pretty new here myself.

When I rewatched the match yesterday, at the end where Andy is going through his bag looking for something, all I could think was he was saying to himself, "What did I do with the blasted cheat sheet with the Chinese words on it."  I wonder what the words meant??? 

Hey I'd be nervous after getting through the match to have to say some Chinese words....good on Andy.
IP Logged
psychological tennis
Challenger Level
**
Posts: 815

Gender: Male
Location: UK - Worthing


Koala's are cute and cuddly

Re: Murray the Goliath defeats David « Reply #44 on: October 17, 2011, 04:52 PM »
Reply with quote

Yes I wonder that myself, often commentators would talk about the top three and totally blow off Andy's accomplishments. So now we will see if they include him more or if they talk about what Roger needs to do to get back his #3.


Thanks for your comments Deb and Apollo, should his detractors talk more about what Roger has to do in order he move back up to number three, rather than include Andy in the big four debate, then i would go as far as to suggest that it would be somewhat disrespectful to Andy. Like you say lets see how they choose to discuss the big four now will it be inclusive rather than exclusive?
IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 12 Go Up Reply 
« previous next »
+ Quick Reply