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Posted on: October 11, 2012, 12:58 PM New message
Posted by: teejay1
I'm a bit worried by andy's comments on this opportunity. I'm hoping Lemdl is coaching him in the mental approach to winning, as discussed on the impress coaching blog.

Do you mean the opportunity of Mayer going out, or the opportunities long term for Andy now, since getting his first major? Either way, never worry about anything Andy says. It doesn't mean anything. In terms of Mayer going out, sure, it opens a door, but first matches after a few days of not playing can be jittery affairs.

If Andy went around saying things like 'I'm now going to win every match I play', I would be worried to be honest, because the fact is that he won't, although these days players have to be on great form to beat him, or they have to be plain annoying like Raonic lol. Frankly Andy is too respectful of the others nearest him in the rankings to go around blowing his own trumpet too much. That's what he has fans for lol.

It seems clear to me that it hasn't quite sunk in with Andy that he has won the USO. He knows he has, he has the trophy to prove it, but I think he can't quite find the words at the moment to express how that feels, and certainly can't  say with 100% certainty how that will help him in the future. They key, it seems to me, is how you play as a result, and how far you believe you can go in he game. Andy has clear goals now for where he wants to be, goals he might not have thought were possible before. That in itself tells me that he has belief, he knows now what could be possible for him. That is confidence enough for me.
Posted on: October 11, 2012, 10:30 AM New message
Posted by: Mark Sheasby
I'm a bit worried by andy's comments on this opportunity. I'm hoping Lemdl is coaching him in the mental approach to winning, as discussed on the impress coaching blog.
Posted on: October 11, 2012, 03:46 AM New message
Posted by: scotnadian
doh  Not sure who is worse - you or him!  Very Happy
Robbie is peerless. Very Happy
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 07:13 PM
Posted by: Elly
Yer jokes are getting Mayer corny by the minute. wink
doh  Not sure who is worse - you or him!  Very Happy
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 07:08 PM
Posted by: Elly
Bugger!  I was looking forward to this match.  I bet Andy would have preferred to play as well. 
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 05:58 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
Was it Miami? I remember Andy getting to the final there, so in my head it wasn't, but my memory is bad lol.

In the end it's what will be will be, because there's nothing we can do, but I still think a walkover now is better than playing a round, getting in to a rhythm and then having a walkover.

I honestly think Andy will come out raring to go, but we'll see. Since Andy won the USO I've become an optimist lol.
I think that's the one you're referring to. He beat Falla in a non-televised match, then was set to play Raonic for the first time but he withdrew, then beat Simon and Tipsy I think, before Nadal withdrew in the Semis.
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 05:02 PM
Posted by: scotnadian
Mayer rest for our Andrew. Smile
Yer jokes are getting Mayer corny by the minute. wink
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 04:58 PM
Posted by: lashurst
I was at work and in meetings so didnt even get the chance to take a peek at the live scoreboard.
Was I anxious? Yes, you bet I was.
Andy has informed he is contending with end of the season fatigue, like many other Tour players at this time of year. They all have some niggles.

A bit of a rest will do him good, as long as he can practise on that surface. Not as good as a match or two perhaps, but maybe the advantage and disadvantage with at least cancel each other out.

Andy in 2 agaist Dolly!
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 03:19 PM
Posted by: teejay1
That would have been in Miami teejay. It didn't really affect him that much, but then Nadal withdrew in the semis as well, so he went into the final completely cold and got trounced 6-1 in the first set.

I'd rather no withdrawals at all. These early rounds are the sort of matches Andy needs to get into the tournament. Dolgopolov is a bloody hard first match and I'm really uneasy about this one.

Was it Miami? I remember Andy getting to the final there, so in my head it wasn't, but my memory is bad lol.

In the end it's what will be will be, because there's nothing we can do, but I still think a walkover now is better than playing a round, getting in to a rhythm and then having a walkover.

I honestly think Andy will come out raring to go, but we'll see. Since Andy won the USO I've become an optimist lol.
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 03:10 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
had to smile this morning when sports presenter on R5 Live referred to Andy as USO champion and then the main presenter commented on it and sports presenter said yes planned to use it every time till next USO, as sounds so much better than British no 1 - or words to that effect.  I still find myself doing a double take when I hear him described in that way - and from his recent interview sounds like Andy has had quite a bit of trouble taking it in too.
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 02:45 PM
Posted by: janetx
Who is the joker now eh?  Apparently when Andy and Nole were practising together yesterday there were more people watching them than were watching the main matches.
Difficult to know whether the walkover is good or bad for Andy.  Good in that he conserves energy when he looked pretty tired last week;bad that he'll come out cold on a very different surface from that in Tokyo while his opponent will already be two matches in.   At least he was able to practise on the court today when he should have been playing.  

Well I for one would've been clamouring to watch those two... wub

Go Andy and Nole!

Yes, walkovers and their effects are difficult to gage. But given that Andy played Tokyo, he should be fine and ready to go versus Dolgo. Hope so!!
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 02:07 PM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
That would have been in Miami teejay. It didn't really affect him that much, but then Nadal withdrew in the semis as well, so he went into the final completely cold and got trounced 6-1 in the first set.

I'd rather no withdrawals at all. These early rounds are the sort of matches Andy needs to get into the tournament. Dolgopolov is a bloody hard first match and I'm really uneasy about this one.
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 01:05 PM
Posted by: teejay1
Hi All,

I missed Djokovic's interview. My sister phones at the worst times, bless her. I might do the rewind thing on Skyplus and see Andy gatecrashing lol.

I think it's hard to know what bearing the walkover for Andy will have against Dolgopolov. To my mind Dolgopolov is up and down anyway. I don't think anyone quite knows from one day to the next what he is going to be like. I've certainly seem him play brilliantly, but I've also seen him being, well, dire. The dire one might not be a bad idea tomorrow, just to get Andy in to the tournament and running. pray

I prefer this situation, to be honest, than if Andy had played the second round and then had a walkover in the third. If I remember rightly, which I don't always, that happened earlier in the year and didn't help Andy much. I can't remember where it was mind you.

I'm still picking Andy to win, either in straight sets or three, again, depending on whether or not Andy comes out in the mood from the start.
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 12:29 PM
Posted by: robbie
Mayer rest for our Andrew. Smile
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 11:45 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
Who is the joker now eh?  Apparently when Andy and Nole were practising together yesterday there were more people watching them than were watching the main matches.
Difficult to know whether the walkover is good or bad for Andy.  Good in that he conserves energy when he looked pretty tired last week;bad that he'll come out cold on a very different surface from that in Tokyo while his opponent will already be two matches in.   At least he was able to practise on the court today when he should have been playing.   
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 11:30 AM
Posted by: scotnadian
Well, that was an easy match report, Luke. Smile
Brilliant cameo appearance by Andy during Nole's interview!
Posted on: October 10, 2012, 11:15 AM
Posted by: TheMadHatter
Andy Murray is into the third round of the Shanghai Rolex Masters after Florian Mayer pulled out, citing a rib injury.

Mayer is the second opponent in a week to withdraw against the Brit, who will now face the world number 20 Alexandr Dolgopolov on Thursday for a place in the quarter finals.

The US Open champion had time to gatecrash Novak Djokovic's interview on Grandstand for a quick joke, before getting down to the nitty-gritty of training. Murray will go into the third round encounter having not played since his narrow defeat to Milos Raonic on Saturday.