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Posted on: March 30, 2012, 06:50 PM
Posted by: blueberryhill
Trouble was, Andy brought that with him the next day. I don't believe he'd do that now....besides Mr Lendl wouldn't let him Whistle
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 05:59 PM
Posted by: adb..OH
ded I remember that Fish had the match stopped for bad light. Andy was coming back into the match and looked like he would win. Next day Andy was out of sorts and lost the match. I to do not like fish he can be a nasty character. He lost last night because Monaco was the better player.
That was the one I've not forgotten Littleb. Andy was raring to go having got into a really good swing, he was standing there waiting to play wondering what Fish was up to, no one consulted him, etc. Andy did not like it at all, but took it extremely well. Oh well, it's probably time to toss that one in the trash! (not to entirely forget it)
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 03:25 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
I agree about PF - also like his rather sardonic sense of humour and the way he can put Marcus down just by raising an eyebrow.
And I agree it's to MP's credit that he bears no ill will towards Andy despite being sacked by him.  I think that also reflects well on Andy himself.  At same time MP is not an 'Andy-worshipper', which would also be wrong in a comm.  I too wonder about a touch of jealousy among some of those ex-2nd/3rd rate players deb.  And while I wouldn't class GR as that, he clearly was never as good as Andy is - though to his credit I think he has acknowledged that himself.  I don't like him and his whiny voice but I think he is prepared to acknowledge Andy's qualities even if sometimes hyper-critical.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 02:55 PM
Posted by: deb
I really like Peter Fleming , he is objective, his knowledge is excellent, he sees things from  a players point of view and unlike some ex players bears no animosity towards more current successful players - unlike the British Comms who seem to be slightly jealous of Andy and his abilities, sometimes feel that their words are sticking in their throat when they are forced to acknowledge a good play from him.  Mark Petchey is the only exception to this rule, he has a real admiration for Andy and always seems to back him and is philisophical and balanced about losses and never turns them into a big crisis!!
Also about Peter Fleming - he is not an out and out "Fed Worshipper" - take note Annable Croft and Greg Rudeski!!!!
well said M.M. Exactly how it is .
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 01:51 PM
Posted by: Grabcopy
And I'd like to see Monaco in top 20.  Apparently he's a really hard worker. 

Yes, he's a good lad. Friend of Andy, judging by the exchanges they used to have on Twitter.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 01:48 PM
Posted by: Littlebuddha
ded I remember that Fish had the match stopped for bad light. Andy was coming back into the match and looked like he would win. Next day Andy was out of sorts and lost the match. I to do not like fish he can be a nasty character. He lost last night because Monaco was the better player.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 01:45 PM
Posted by: Murray Magic
I like McEnroe's comments and would love to see him working with Peter Fleming, good partnership???

I really like Peter Fleming , he is objective, his knowledge is excellent, he sees things from  a players point of view and unlike some ex players bears no animosity towards more current successful players - unlike the British Comms who seem to be slightly jealous of Andy and his abilities, sometimes feel that their words are sticking in their throat when they are forced to acknowledge a good play from him.  Mark Petchey is the only exception to this rule, he has a real admiration for Andy and always seems to back him and is philisophical and balanced about losses and never turns them into a big crisis!!
Also about Peter Fleming - he is not an out and out "Fed Worshipper" - take note Annable Croft and Greg Rudeski!!!!
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 01:34 PM
Posted by: Tessie
Monaco quite fit......in more ways than one lol
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 12:20 PM
Posted by: Ruthie
Watched first set and Monaco was playing really well.  I don't think we need to apologise for holding a grudge against Fish.  Didn't he in fact act badly towards Andy twice running around the time of Queens that year though must admit have now forgotten what the other incident was exactly.  And I'd like to see Monaco in top 20.  Apparently he's a really hard worker. 
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
Posted by: deb
I too, don't like Fish, can never forget or forgive the way he treated Andy at Queens.
exactly glad he lost!! Good luck Andy you can beat Nadal.   cmonandy
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 11:20 AM
Posted by: Psmannie
Just thinking generally about commentators. In my opinion the three best in no particular order are:-

Peter Fleming
Mark Petchey
Shiras

Anyone any thoughts?

I like McEnroe's comments and would love to see him working with Peter Fleming, good partnership???
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 11:20 AM
Posted by: ChrisMac
I too, don't like Fish, can never forget or forgive the way he treated Andy at Queens.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
Posted by: Psmannie
and me, elephantine type memory I'm afraid, and hold grudges like a good 'un...
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 10:14 AM
Posted by: Alis

Unfortunately I missed the Monaco/Fish match, would like to have seen that. I'm afraid I'm still holding a grudge against Mr. Fish for what to me was a dirty trick he once played on Andy.


Me too abh!
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 09:47 AM
Posted by: adb..OH
Was that when he sent a ball long - just like he did against Rafa at Wimbledon after which he went into meltdown?  He did the same in another match recently and each time I've thought oh no, this could be it but it wasn't and I thought something has really changed in him.  But I didn't notice the trashing it motion - perhaps that's a device that Mr L has suggested; I like it.   Interestingly Peter Fleming [also one of my favourite comms] said that Andy can now accept his mistakes better rather than berate himself as he did in the past.  This is of course necessary if he's going to play more aggressive tennis.
On the comms my favourite is Johnnie Mac - although we only get to enjoy him at Wimbledon over here.
And so pleased that little Monaco made fishpaste last night.  I like him and hope he can climb the rankings; he's also a good friend of Andy's.

That was probably it, or it may have been some other error. You could see him thinking about doing one of his old tricks, such as bashing his hand with his racquet, but instead, praise the Lord! His arm went out in a smooth sweep to his right exactly as if brushing it away from his thoughts... magnificent.
Unfortunately I missed the Monaco/Fish match, would like to have seen that. I'm afraid I'm still holding a grudge against Mr. Fish for what to me was a dirty trick he once played on Andy.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 09:39 AM
Posted by: Bevc
Just thinking generally about commentators. In my opinion the three best in no particular order are:-

Peter Fleming
Mark Petchey
Shiras

Anyone any thoughts?

As I'm dependent on live-streams I rarely get to see Sky, so -

Robbie Koenig (ESPN)
Frew McMillan (Eurosport)
Mark Petchey

Also I rate Tim Henman as a very good commentator and pundit, just a pity he confines himself to Wimbledon.

I'd go with Timmy and Mac - they are great together yes
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 09:03 AM
Posted by: Ruthie
Also, have not seen it posted - wondered if anyone else noticed, it was somewhere in the 2nd set, Andy had made an error which obviously was annoying but instead of any sort of negativity, he literally brushed it away with his arm, you could see him sweep it off to the right into the imagined trash. Just as we have been suggesting for some time! He is no doubt getting the same advice from Llendl.  It worked beautifully.
Was that when he sent a ball long - just like he did against Rafa at Wimbledon after which he went into meltdown?  He did the same in another match recently and each time I've thought oh no, this could be it but it wasn't and I thought something has really changed in him.  But I didn't notice the trashing it motion - perhaps that's a device that Mr L has suggested; I like it.   Interestingly Peter Fleming [also one of my favourite comms] said that Andy can now accept his mistakes better rather than berate himself as he did in the past.  This is of course necessary if he's going to play more aggressive tennis.
On the comms my favourite is Johnnie Mac - although we only get to enjoy him at Wimbledon over here.
And so pleased that little Monaco made fishpaste last night.  I like him and hope he can climb the rankings; he's also a good friend of Andy's.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 07:33 AM
Posted by: Psmannie
Taken a day to recover from THE match and ready to go again tonight.   The feel of Andy's playing and his recent maturity in dealing with his frustrations means he's in with a great chance of beating Nadal, who isn't playing his best tennis.

Roll on 8.00!  Everything crossed!  Wouldn't a straight set win be nice!    cmonandy
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 05:42 AM
Posted by: janetx
Come on Murray!! Time to begin turning around the H2H versus Rafa. I think the court and timing are right. GO GO GO Andy.
Posted on: March 30, 2012, 01:11 AM
Posted by: Aileen
Not the way Djoko is playing these first few games - scary!
Hmmm - but they've exchanged breaks of serve at the start of the second, and it's now 2-1 to Ferrer, who looks as though he's really got the bit between his teeth now.  Djoko's ball-bouncing is getting ridiculous.  I've counted anything up to 12 times in this match!

What a shame, Ferrer lost the 2nd set tie-break. Frown