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Posted on: January 15, 2013, 09:12 PM New message
Posted by: robbie
Still don't see why he needs drugs to survive. He should just bloody outglow others.
Arf! Arf!
Posted on: January 15, 2013, 09:10 PM New message
Posted by: Emma Jean
Its because he,s a bloody worm.

Still don't see why he needs drugs to survive. He should just bloody outglow others.
Posted on: January 15, 2013, 08:40 PM New message
Posted by: craighateslife
Andy's forehand was very good today. Many mid court balls were attacked and put away when before he would be content to use a rallying shot.  A real change in tactics.

His serve seemed to suffer in light of the sun which is understandable as Lisiki v Woz  were the same.

Exciting times ahead.
Posted on: January 15, 2013, 07:45 PM New message
Posted by: robbie
Armstrong is finally coming out of the woodwork. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Its because he,s a bloody worm.
Posted on: January 15, 2013, 07:42 PM New message
Posted by: Littlebuddha
I already mentioned an athlete called Lase Viren a Fin. He used blood doping many moons ago. He would draw off his blood and before a big meet he would transfuse it back into his body. This was banned so if Nole is using the pod to increase the oxygen uptake in his blood I wonder why this has not been mentioned. If he does do it do the tennis authorities condone it ? Those things should be made a lot more clearer as it gives an advantage to the players who use this method to enhance the oxygen levels in the blood.
Posted on: January 15, 2013, 06:16 PM New message
Posted by: Emma Jean
Armstrong is finally coming out of the woodwork. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 09:03 PM
Posted by: steve bywaters
I think it helps. I am slightly anemic so I tend not do well in heat. I eat iron rich food to increase my red blood cell count. Seems like they both serve the same purpose …builds some kind of resistance to heat etc. but I am no medical expert.

interesting thing called Soda doping and its legal. Many pros do it in most sports at the highest level before an event. tiny bit of bicarbonate of soda to 95% mineral water and the body alkalizes its blood ph.  just a raise of 0.6 ph increases blood oxygen levels by an incredible 70%.  similar to bicarbonate djokovics vacuum increases epo levels out of his kidneys (lactic acid is neutralized and endurance shoots up, hence the cheat). The point being that he might as well be blood doping and who'd know.

I read somewhere when u raise ph this way and ur body becomes slightly alkaline no disease can survive, including cancer and all sorts of nice things happen health wise. a few links below in case I got it all wrong. or google 'soda doping'


http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-link.aspx?n=3209&Title=Clinical%20Trials%20for%20Sodium%20Bircarbonate

http://www.naturalnews.com/033385_cancer_pH_levels.html

http://www.mgwater.com/bicarb.shtml

http://drsircus.com/medicine/sodium-bicarbonate-baking-soda/warnings-and-contraindications
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 08:03 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean
Not sure how this would help with heat, I understood it to enhance red blood cell count.

I think it helps. I am slightly anemic so I tend not do well in heat. I eat iron rich food to increase my red blood cell count. Seems like they both serve the same purpose …builds some kind of resistance to heat etc. but I am no medical expert.
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
Posted by: lashurst
Being so cheerful obviously keeps you going. The backhanded dig at Judy, and thereby Andy, is just plain uncalled for.
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Posted on: January 14, 2013, 07:54 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean
but doesnt Djoko's egg vacuum acclimatiser give him an unfair advantage (twice that of illegal blood doping apparently!). I hesitate to use the word cheating on this forum so I'll stop there.
As for murray's mother I agree she's played her part but its no coincidence since the Lendl "ear plug" incident she's been "too busy" to attend every single bleedin tournament he plays in
Thanks to Lendl no longer is her presence allowed to switch murray's on court persona from man to boy, I feel.
But if the weather wasnt so hot and most of  Australia wasnt actually on fire I'd say he'd reach the final again

Nole's sudden rise to the inhuman level did raise a lot of questions in 2011 especially the egg vaccum thing and how he went on to beat No. 1 player Nadal 7 times in a row. Basically beat everyone in sight. I think there's a certain doping involved in ATP anyway. Andy has hinted something twice already. But anyway, people are always very speculative and suspicious but that doesn't mean they don't exist. We all know what human beings are truly capable of if anyone follows the news on a regular basis. There were a lot of questions surrounding Nadal as well since his rise to the top from 2008, but they were mostly projected by Federer fans, as it was very hard for them to digest the fact that, a clay-courter like Nadal could come along and threaten the very throne their Master was firmly rested upon.  Same thing happened with Nole too, but this time, they were mostly projected by Nadal fans because they had the most interest. So while there could have been something in both cases, it goes without saying that some have problems accepting the truth.

If Andy goes on a winning spree this year, then I don’t think anyone will suspect anything for two reasons; one, he has already set the trend just last year; two, it’s been long expected. Nole basically came from nowhere especially when you take into account that he had a really flat year in 2010, but that could have set it off too, who knows. These are however only ifs and buts.

I think Judy was mostly there to give Andy moral support. I don’t’ think she was heavily involved directly in coaching or anything. She’ll probably show up only in important matches from now on. I really think it’s ideal for both. Judy can now go and concentrate on what she loves doing while Andy can grow up under Lendl’s wings.
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 07:36 PM
Posted by: Fiverings
but doesnt Djoko's egg vacuum acclimatiser give him an unfair advantage (twice that of illegal blood doping apparently!).

Not sure how this would help with heat, I understood it to enhance red blood cell count.
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 07:24 PM
Posted by: Murray Magic
but doesnt Djoko's egg vacuum acclimatiser give him an unfair advantage (twice that of illegal blood doping apparently!). I hesitate to use the word cheating on this forum so I'll stop there.
As for murray's mother I agree she's played her part but its no coincidence since the Lendl "ear plug" incident she's been "too busy" to attend every single bleedin tournament he plays in
Thanks to Lendl no longer is her presence allowed to switch murray's on court persona from man to boy, I feel.
But if the weather wasnt so hot and most of  Australia wasnt actually on fire I'd say he'd reach the final again

Judy Murray has an important role with the LTA now do you not think that is why she can no longer attend every tournament?  Why do you appear on here only when there is a major tournament and try to bait everyone?
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 07:18 PM
Posted by: steve bywaters
The heat is definitely going to be a factor but it will be for everyone unless of course either Nole or Federer or both get the night schedules more than Andy; then of course Andy's chances will decrease. But we have to keep in mind that it's Nole who has a history of dealing with terrible heat right here at the AO. So who is to say he's not going to suffer the most. Though I take it he has taken quite a few precautions since 2011 so maybe he'll fine in the end. The easy draw helps too.

Andy has other factors too but I think it's best to take one match at a time. The ESPN team tends to think that Andy has a great shot here despite his tough draw and I am sure they've taken everything into account.

I am not sure actually how much Judy truly stood in the way of Andy finally maturing and growing as a player, but she did one thing right and that is, she handled her sons in the right direction, so I am sure she plays a big part in both Andy and Jaime’s life. You know how they say behind every successful man, there’s a great woman. If you ask Jim Carrey though, he’ll say, behind every great man, there’s a great woman rolling her eyes. lol.

Anyway, Lendl, of course, has become the biggest factor in Andy’s life and for the right reasons. I am sure he’s a playing a significant part in Andy’s growing and maturing as a great player as well. I'd say Andy needed everything he has now to achieve what he achieved so far including his family.
but doesnt Djoko's egg vacuum acclimatiser give him an unfair advantage (twice that of illegal blood doping apparently!). I hesitate to use the word cheating on this forum so I'll stop there.
As for murray's mother I agree she's played her part but its no coincidence since the Lendl "ear plug" incident she's been "too busy" to attend every single bleedin tournament he plays in
Thanks to Lendl no longer is her presence allowed to switch murray's on court persona from man to boy, I feel.
But if the weather wasnt so hot and most of  Australia wasnt actually on fire I'd say he'd reach the final again
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:56 PM
Posted by: blueberryhill
Slam time and the trolls rise to the surface!!!



Too bloody right- and extremely sexist ones as well  Rolling Eyes
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean


hi emma. 40deg going to be too much I just cant see him doing it. He really hates the heat and his game becomes ordinary as a result. Shame because without mum around he's become a man at last and would otherwise have won it I feel

The heat is definitely going to be a factor but it will be for everyone unless of course either Nole or Federer or both get the night schedules more than Andy; then of course Andy's chances will decrease. But we have to keep in mind that it's Nole who has a history of dealing with terrible heat right here at the AO. So who is to say he's not going to suffer the most. Though I take it he has taken quite a few precautions since 2011 so maybe he'll fine in the end. The easy draw helps too.

Andy has other factors too but I think it's best to take one match at a time. The ESPN team tends to think that Andy has a great shot here despite his tough draw and I am sure they've taken everything into account.

I am not sure actually how much Judy truly stood in the way of Andy finally maturing and growing as a player, but she did one thing right and that is, she handled her sons in the right direction, so I am sure she plays a big part in both Andy and Jaime’s life. You know how they say behind every successful man, there’s a great woman. If you ask Jim Carrey though, he’ll say, behind every great man, there’s a great woman rolling her eyes. lol.

Anyway, Lendl, of course, has become the biggest factor in Andy’s life and for the right reasons. I am sure he’s a playing a significant part in Andy’s growing and maturing as a great player as well. I'd say Andy needed everything he has now to achieve what he achieved so far including his family.
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
Posted by: Murray Magic


hi emma. 40deg going to be too much I just cant see him doing it. He really hates the heat and his game becomes ordinary as a result. Shame because without mum around he's become a man at last and would otherwise have won it I feel

Slam time and the trolls rise to the surface!!!
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:11 PM
Posted by: teejay1


hi emma. 40deg going to be too much I just cant see him doing it. He really hates the heat and his game becomes ordinary as a result. Shame because without mum around he's become a man at last and would otherwise have won it I feel

Being so cheerful obviously keeps you going. The backhanded dig at Judy, and thereby Andy, is just plain uncalled for.
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:11 PM
Posted by: Fiverings
What the hell...?
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:09 PM
Posted by: steve bywaters
Andy couldn't have possibly hired Lendl 5 years ago simply because, back then, Andy had no way of knowing what he was going to go through the next 5 years. It was eventually his constant struggle and a few losses in the Major final that had led him to hire someone of Lendl's caliber and it is the same reason why Lendl showed any interest in the first place. If Andy had won at least 1 Slam by now, then the appearance of Lendl in Andy’s life as coach would have never happened. Assuming this is like missing a few steps in between. We should just be happy and accept the way things are right now and intend for the best.

I wonder if anyone remembers but at the start of this partnership just last year around this time there were a few posters on this forum who were very doubtful about this partnership and wondered if it was ever going to work out. And they even thought that Andy would be in for even more humiliation in the future if he failed to win that elusive Slam of his even with Lendl’s help and look where we are right now. So in short, no risk no gain. You can be an average person, live a mediocre/safe life and achieve nothing or you can take the risk, be brave about it or don’t think about the outcome and hope/wish for the best.  In Andy’s case clearly it was never going to be the former.



hi emma. 40deg going to be too much I just cant see him doing it. He really hates the heat and his game becomes ordinary as a result. Shame because without mum around he's become a man at last and would otherwise have won it I feel
Posted on: January 14, 2013, 06:02 PM
Posted by: Emma Jean
Things like that.

Some of the best analysts, pundits and coaches were pretty crap at the sport or never even played it. When people laugh down others for pointing things out, questioning what their job is and if they've ever won a Slam, etc it's downright ignorant and quire frankly irrelevant. Even your average armchair fan can be quite knowledgable about tactics, strategy and players' games, strengths and weaknesses. It's a myth that those who played the game professionally are always right and those who didn't know nothing.

Thinking more football than tennis, but there are plenty of ex-players who played at the top of game who were spectacular failures as managers, whilst many who played the game to an even lower level than someone like me go on to becomes great managers. The current Southampton manager who gained back-to-back promotions used to be a physio after playing in the lower leagues, whilst a physio with no experience in the game whatsoever took over from John Barnes to steer Tranmere to safety (they were rock bottom under Barnes). In summary, you don't need to have been a pro to be able to analyse a sport, although having played the sport at some point in your life would obviously help (not essential though - see Tranmere physio). Going back to tennis I dare say many journalists who watch the sport week in, out would make far better pundits than the likes of Andrew Castle.

Anyway, you touched upon a sore point of mine and I shall shut up now. Very Happy Moving on..

Quite true. In fact, some of the greatest coaches of all time didn't even have any formal training or any true experience in the field they taught. It’s a myth and a misconception at its best. Einstein, for example, never had Physics as his major; in fact, failed in one of the Physics courses in college and was a mediocre/average student all his life. A drop out couple of times and it was because of his father he had to go back to college. He personally just did not care for mainstream studies. And yet, he’s known as The Scientist of all time. No proper training, no proper schooling, no fancy credentials or whatsoever. And if He were to teach in one of the renown Universities today without any so called credentials, he would have been rejected right away.  So we do live in pretentious world where people are now far keen on credentials rather than one’s true ability. Even if I, let’s say, have sound knowledge on some field without the formal studies just learned by myself, then majority of the people would be very keen on dismissing me without giving it a second chance and won’t hesitate on adding the world ‘pseudo’ in front of my name. The truth is of course and will always be greater than what we know or understand. Some people are just born to be coaches (and other stuff) and whether they had any genuine experience in the related fields or not is completely irrelevant. Mozart was already composing at age 5 and no one ever taught him that. He was just good at it naturally and was born to be a composer.