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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #45 on: February 02, 2012, 10:48 PM »
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That 5 sets SF match against Djokovic (watch it on the BBC HD) over 5 hours was really brutal.

Playing two best of 5 sets matches with only 1 day break in between at the Davis cup can be really draining on the body.  Andy has trained really hard and played non stop for almost two months.  The body needs rest and recuperation.  It would be unwise to risk playing and incur injury.

In the bigger picture, getting the necessary rest to recover from the pinched nerve so that he can train and become better to win that elusive GS is much more important in his career and life now than playing some second tier Davis Cup against much lower ranked opponents.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #46 on: February 02, 2012, 11:02 PM »
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Playing at Braehead last time we saw an emotional Andy enjoying being home and the team camaraderie. It seemed to be important to him and although I seem to be very much in the minority, I  :roll:actually think it is pretty selfish to let down the team, his country and more importantly all the fans who gave him such a hero's welcome last time. It is after all three perhaps only two games of tennis, unlikely to be very demanding and just a couple of days out of his schedule. He is apparently going to be in Scotland anyway at some publicity event. Everyone knows that the Scottish venue was repeated to try and ensure Andy played and I think a lot less of him for not stepping up, I really do. I don't like when he behaves like Federer etc and says I am too big and important for this little event - I want Andy to be different like when he takes such care to sign all the autographs. I'm afraid I don't think he is injured any more than Nadal was at the Oz Open.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #47 on: February 02, 2012, 11:30 PM »
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Unfortunately James Ward has withdrawn from a tournie this week due to an injury! Dan Evans however has won 2 tournies very recently and is a real tryer (a bit like a poor mans David Ferrer) Doubles team as you say definately right. Ollie Golding was on the bench last time and would hope Leon would do it again to keep giving him a sense of the occasion.  I have tickets for all 3 days and yes I am disappointed not to see Andy but feel he has made the right decision and when I booked the tickets it was to see the team play so I am still very much looking forward to watching tennis!  



Ward withdrew to avoid aggravating a shin/knee problem he's had in the past. I think he would have played the tournament anyway if it wasn't due to one of the airlines he was travelling with losing all of his luggage, including rackets, tennis kit and the tennis shoes he plays with. And as far as I'm aware, the particular shoes/trainers he plays in offsets the issue with the shin/knee.

And Golding and Broady are playing in Futures events in Turkey this month in order for then to build up their rankings.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #48 on: February 03, 2012, 02:29 AM »
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Playing at Braehead last time we saw an emotional Andy enjoying being home and the team camaraderie. It seemed to be important to him and although I seem to be very much in the minority, I actually think it is pretty selfish to let down the team, his country and more importantly all the fans who gave him such a hero's welcome last time. It is after all three perhaps only two games of tennis, unlikely to be very demanding and just a couple of days out of his schedule. He is apparently going to be in Scotland anyway at some publicity event. Everyone knows that the Scottish venue was repeated to try and ensure Andy played and I think a lot less of him for not stepping up, I really do. I don't like when he behaves like Federer etc and says I am too big and important for this little event - I want Andy to be different like when he takes such care to sign all the autographs. I'm afraid I don't think he is injured any more than Nadal was at the Oz Open.
So where did you hear/read that amazing statement MT?  Andy said he felt gutted not to be able to play.  OK so he might only have to play a couple of 3 setters, but if the main problem is a pinched nerve in his back, well that's something he definitely doesn't want to be troubled with, so why risk aggravating it?  Also if you read my earlier post I quoted a section from the Scotsman which states that Andy said that he had doubts about his participation this time around because of the changes made to the calendar to accommodate the Olympics, with the Davis Cup weeks brought forward from the usual March and July to February and April.  So we were at least warned that he might not play.  He didn't just spring it on us.

Moreover, don't you know Nadal isn't playing any DC ties this year?  At least Andy has said he'll play later in the year if necessary.

The only thing I agree with is that I think it was unwise of Smith to chose Braehead for the third consecutive time, because it does look a bit like a set-up for Andy, although he's a friend of Andy's and must have been aware that his participation was in doubt because of his schedule.

Ward withdrew to avoid aggravating a shin/knee problem he's had in the past. I think he would have played the tournament anyway if it wasn't due to one of the airlines he was travelling with losing all of his luggage, including rackets, tennis kit and the tennis shoes he plays with. And as far as I'm aware, the particular shoes/trainers he plays in offsets the issue with the shin/knee.

And Golding and Broady are playing in Futures events in Turkey this month in order for then to build up their rankings.
What tough luck for Ward.  The LTA website isn't updated as of this moment and still shows him in the squad.  So Goodall and/or Baker perhaps?  I don't think we can afford to go below a ranking of 300 - but it's up to Leon Smith to decide.  Can't say I envy him his job just now but I'm just soooooo thankful that John Lloyd is no longer captain.  He was well past his sell by date.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #49 on: February 03, 2012, 12:31 PM »
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Aileen - I think Ward is due to play Davis Cup -- it was another tournament he had to pull out of for the reasons Allan gave.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #50 on: February 03, 2012, 05:49 PM »
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Aileen - I think Ward is due to play Davis Cup -- it was another tournament he had to pull out of for the reasons Allan gave.

Thanks Elena.  My failure to read Allan's post properly ... doh   However, I'm very relieved to hear he will be playing at Braehead.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #51 on: February 03, 2012, 09:40 PM »
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Thanks Elena.  My failure to read Allan's post properly ... doh   However, I'm very relieved to hear he will be playing at Braehead.
Well we hope that he still is fit next week as Jamie Baker is recovering from injury (if he was fully fit he'd be in the squad ahead of Evans) and Goodall in stuggling with a niggling back injury.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #52 on: February 03, 2012, 11:20 PM »
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Well we hope that he still is fit next week as Jamie Baker is recovering from injury (if he was fully fit he'd be in the squad ahead of Evans) and Goodall in stuggling with a niggling back injury.
Thanks for the info.  I too hope Ward is fit.  It's going to be tough enough as it is.  Also I did wonder why Evans had been picked for the squad.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #53 on: February 04, 2012, 08:54 AM »
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I see that your user name is very apt.....like your brain  Rolling Eyes

 :wtf:You might not agree with me but it doesn't mean I'm thick. I just don't buy into the whole exhausted tennis player deal as much as you do - compare them to an Olympic athlete for example and the sacrifice and dedication they show. Also I feel that on the facts and statistics that those players who do represent their country at Davis cup end up with better results than those who don't. eg Novak. Playing competitive tennis with a good crowd roaring you on can only be good for Andy and there will have been a huge amount of work put in by the organisers and coaches and his mate Leon, all of whom will be feeling really disappointed right now, not to mention the fans who have bought tickets expecting to see him. You say that the match against Novak was brutal and I'm sure thats right but look what Novak did just two days later. Andy will have had weeks to recover and he should play because the team needs him and he is not doing anything else. Henman played 21 Davis cup ties in under 10 years and Andy needs to show the same commitment, and not give more ammunition to his detractors.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #54 on: February 04, 2012, 09:21 AM »
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Look where Henman got for putting his guts on the line for GB, got injured due to it and never got past a GS SF.  Even with Greg, they never managed to win a World Group match and always lost either by 3 rubbers to 2 etc...

Andy has no singles support.  Even if he and colin/fleming managed to drag the team into the World Group inthe next 2 years, they will never have a chance to progress beyond the first round.  GB needs the other players to develop first before it is worth Andy time to reinvest his effort into the Davis Cup.  

For now, I see his immediate priority is to master the new baseline hugging techniques with increased fitness level, improve 2nd serves, practise/improve Serve and Volley skills, strengthen mental focus.

For Andy to fulfill his destiny of winning a GS and bring glory to GB after 73 years of hurt then Andy needs to focus on his GS goal.  I believe this will serve GB much better by bringing recognition and glory back to GB and attracts many new players to the game than playing 2nd/3rd tier Davis Cup matches in the hinterland.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #55 on: February 04, 2012, 10:18 AM »
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MT: so u don't believe Andy when he says he's injured?
Rather than pressurising Andy, the LTA should be looking at why there are NO other top male players.
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #56 on: February 04, 2012, 11:02 AM »
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Its Andy's decision whether he wants to play or not.. not his fans.. if you cant respect his decision then that's a bit pathetic.  This Year is going to be interesting for Andy and I believe that he has a real opportunity to win a slam.  I'll stick by him no matter what and I believe that he has made the correct decision.  The GB team is not a one man team.. it is a group team competition.  Its not Andy's fault that he is the only great and awesome tennis player from GB. 
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #57 on: February 04, 2012, 11:15 AM »
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It is disappointing for fans that he's not playing but wtf don't get on his back for it.  And not to keep sounding like a broken record, oh to walk a mile in his (Andy's) shoes and that's we are all so different.  Jeez, he can't do right for doing wrong - damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Rolling Eyes
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #58 on: February 04, 2012, 12:36 PM »
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Andy knows when he can and cannot play.  He is 100% genuine.  He's already said how gutted he is that he won't be playing but he knows he's not ready.  We all saw how emotional he was last time and it is precisely because it means so much that he won't compromise.  To live with and ultimately outdo the topguns in tennis right now Andy is having to dig super-deep into all his human resources.  He so needs this little window of time, a mere fortnight, to rest, heal and gird his loins for what is to come.

He is working his guts out on and off court to break the stranglehold of Djokovic and Nadal in claiming the cups, titles, points and accolades which they currently greedily monopolise.  Of course you can't blame them, they are more hungry and driven than ever, the more they get, the more they want.  It falls to our Andy to seriously set about doing something about it.  He is the one with the game, the class and the belief that he can change the status quo.  But looking at them in the final last week, it is going to take Superman with genius tennis skills to knock them off their perch.  They are both bordering on psychotic levels of indignation at the thought of losing. 

Andy needs to be super-fit, playing at his supreme best and believing that he is ready to break their will.  I love how he has changed things up this year, flying out to Miami to train hard with Lendl later this month, he just keeps on finding new ways to help solve the riddle of the elusive slam.  The records will not mention how he didn't play DC in Glasgow next week, but Andy is doing everything humanly possible to work his way into his rightful place in the history books as the first Great Briton for seventy-odd years to win a major. 
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Re: Murray to skip Davis Cup tie with Slovakia « Reply #59 on: February 04, 2012, 12:48 PM »
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 each sport is differnt.What Andy is doing is fantastic, he is thinking of the wider scheme of things.

When Tim played in the Davis Cup life was totally different from today.  Also someone mentioned about athelitcs, you cannot compare the same sports, they do not have all the events that they have to play like the top tennios players,
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