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Murray to take on Federer in London « on: November 18, 2009, 11:22 AM »
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Andy Murray has been drawn in the same group as Roger Federer for the ATP World Tour Finals at London's O2 Arena.

Murray, seeded fourth, is in Group A and therefore will also have to play US Open champion Juan Martin Del Potro and Fernando Verdasco. The Scot will need to finish in the top two of the group if he is to progress to the semi-finals.

Murray has a 6-3 win-loss record against Federer but lost their last meeting in Cincinnati this year. The Scot also holds a 4-1 record against Del Potro and a 7-1 record against Verdasco.

Federer, who's already looking ahead to the clash, says it's up to him whether he beats Murray or not.

It’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him,

I know what I can do and I know what he can do. When we both play well it’s a close match, but I always feel it’s the attacker who holds the key to success, so it’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him.

That’s why I don’t mind the match-up, to be honest.

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Re: Murray to take on Federer « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 11:24 AM »
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Quote from: Mark on November 18, 2009, 11:22 AM
Andy Murray has been drawn in the same group as Roger Federer for the ATP World Tour Finals at London's O2 Arena.

Murray, seeded four, is in Group A and therefore will also have to play US Open champion Juan Martin Del Potro and Fernando Verdasco. The Scot will need to finish in the top two of the group if he is to progress to the semi-finals.

Murray has a 6-3 win-loss record against Federer and won their last encounter in this tournament last year when it was known as the Masters Cup. The Scot also holds a 4-1 record against Del Potro and a 7-1 record against Verdasco.

Federer, who's already looking ahead to the clash, says it's up to him whether he beats Murray or not.

It’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him,

I know what I can do and I know what he can do. When we both play well it’s a close match, but I always feel it’s the attacker who holds the key to success, so it’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him.

That’s why I don’t mind the match-up, to be honest.

I love it when Federer gets cocky. lol
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Re: Murray to take on Federer « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 11:26 AM »
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It's just going to fire Murray up, these cocky comments always do... so keep 'em coming Federer.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 11:28 AM »
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Quote from: Mark on November 18, 2009, 11:22 AM
Andy Murray has been drawn in the same group as Roger Federer for the ATP World Tour Finals at London's O2 Arena.

Murray, seeded four, is in Group A and therefore will also have to play US Open champion Juan Martin Del Potro and Fernando Verdasco. The Scot will need to finish in the top two of the group if he is to progress to the semi-finals.

Murray has a 6-3 win-loss record against Federer and won their last encounter in this tournament last year when it was known as the Masters Cup. The Scot also holds a 4-1 record against Del Potro and a 7-1 record against Verdasco.

Federer, who's already looking ahead to the clash, says it's up to him whether he beats Murray or not.

It’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him,

I know what I can do and I know what he can do. When we both play well it’s a close match, but I always feel it’s the attacker who holds the key to success, so it’s up to me whether I win or lose, not up to him.

That’s why I don’t mind the match-up, to be honest.


What an arse Federer is, you'd think he would have learned by now. Rolling Eyes

Also, wasn't their last meeting in Cincy this year? Think
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 11:31 AM »
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I wonder if Federer realises what a knobend he sounds at times?
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 11:36 AM »
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As much as it comes across as being a twat, Federer is bang on.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 11:52 AM »
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I suppose Murray could probably say the same thing... if he played an attacking game, he would always beat Federer Very Happy
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 12:00 PM »
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Quote from: Sir Panda on November 18, 2009, 11:36 AM
As much as it comes across as being a twat, Federer is bang on.
How can you say Fed is bang on, Andy has won 6 out of 9 games and as everyone on here keeps pointing out Andy is a defensive player not an attacker, Andy can beat Fed whether he (Fed) plays attacking tennis or not.  shocking
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 12:08 PM »
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The principle of what Federer is saying is right though. If you defend, you wait on mistakes. If those mistakes don't come, what can you do?

Essentially, if Fed comes out swinging and finds the lines, there is nothing Andy can do - watch the US Open final for evidence. Federer wasn't missing, and Andy has no plan B.

Fortunately, performances such as that have been rare, and that's how Andy has been able to win 6 out of their 9 encounters.

This is another reason why I love the Murray/Nadal match-up, because I know that the outcome relies on Andy playing aggressively.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 12:14 PM »
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The US Open final was a bit different though, Andy was knackered after the Nadal match which ran over 2 days while Federer had a couple of rest days, if Andy's fit he can run down anything, I know that isn't a good thing and he should be more attacking but it's the way he plays, he still gets the better of Fed doing it, and Fed's just an arse saying it's up to him whether he wins or loses, what if he plays the best tennis he's every played and Andy still beats him, was that him deciding to lose?
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 12:18 PM »
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I don't understand what all the fuss is about, he's not savaging Andy or saying he's a poor player, he's just stating that the contrast in style makes him feel comfortable.

That's a hypothetical. The defensive style can still trump aggressive players, even if they are hitting the lines, but it's rare.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 12:26 PM »
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No, he's not simply saying he feels comfortable. He's saying Andy has no say in whether he wins or loses in their match. In other words, he's taking away all credit from Andy for all his previous and future victories.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 12:34 PM »
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^ Certainly comes across that way, whether he intended it to, or not.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 12:42 PM »
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Nah, don't agree Mark. I think Andrew's right.
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Re: Murray to take on Federer in London « Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 12:47 PM »
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I'm with Mark on this one.  w00t
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