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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #30 on: July 02, 2013, 11:27 AM »
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Me neither Michelle......did anyone? I've got to say that I'm loving the way Andy is looking right now, with his hair at just the right length and always clean shaven. Not that I was too bothered when he was scruffy, but what I'm loving now is, it's an obvious sign of the change in his 'mental attitude'! He's sending out all the right messages!  yes

Andy shaved before sitting in the Royal Box. He talked in his blog about cutting himself, but he hoped no one noticed. I hate to tell him, but I did Smile. Never mind, he looked great.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #31 on: July 02, 2013, 11:33 AM »
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^ Do you think the crowd will get behind Berdych?

I do. I think they just don't like Djokovic. I think it's partly because of Andy to be honest, but also because of Djokovic for some reason.

Crowds can be funny. It's hard to know why they take a dislike to someone. It's just nice to see they have embraced Andy, in their own reserved way. Took them long enough!
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #32 on: July 02, 2013, 03:46 PM »
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Good report, Luke and many thanks as I did not watch the match. Your comments allowed me to get in there.

Incidentally, has anyone down or up loaded the match? 
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #33 on: July 02, 2013, 04:26 PM »
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I do. I think they just don't like Djokovic. I think it's partly because of Andy to be honest, but also because of Djokovic for some reason.

Crowds can be funny. It's hard to know why they take a dislike to someone. It's just nice to see they have embraced Andy, in their own reserved way. Took them long enough!

I think Andy was probably a bit inhibited in last years final due to not having total support from the crowd, if he makes the final this year and it is Djoker then i don't think he will have that problem.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #34 on: July 02, 2013, 05:23 PM »
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I really wish Andy wouldn't care so much about the crowd. If they get into his match right from the get go then that's great; if not, that's fine too. It doesn't help him if he's even slightly distracted by it. I do think he cares but he doesn't need to. He's a great talented player who can win completely on his own - with or without the support of the crowd.

I don't remember as I wasn't following Henman as closely as to notice the crowd support but were they very supportive of him in each match despite him being nervous in some matches?

As to Berdych, I do feel he is considerably spent over his last two matches but he can always convince himself as if he's playing his last match and give his all. And win. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #35 on: July 02, 2013, 05:44 PM »
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I don't think Nole is hated by the crowd at Wimbledon. I thought it was more of a case of Nole being too good and Haas being the underdog (Federer is really an exception but if you remember, Stakhovsky was getting a lot of support as well vs Federer) and perhaps deep down inside, they were thinking about Andy as well. They probably think, if Nole is this good then Andy will have his hands full against him in the final should they meet; that is, considering their tennis knowledge in general. It's not too surprising that they worry about Andy's chances of winning Wimbledon even when Andy has a Slam to his credit already. If both Andy and Nole make the final, I can tell you right off the bat, that the crowd will be very nervous for Andy and won't cheer him on until they find a reason to - either Andy's on his way down or he's on a roll. If it stays even then they'll get tight and will probably stay quiet.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #36 on: July 02, 2013, 05:45 PM »
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I really wish Andy wouldn't care so much about the crowd. If they get into his match right from the get go then that's great; if not, that's fine too. It doesn't help him if he's even slightly distracted by it. I do think he cares but he doesn't need to. He's a great talented player who can win completely on his own - with or without the support of the crowd.

I don't remember as I wasn't following Henman as closely as to notice the crowd support but were they very supportive of him in each match despite him being nervous in some matches?

As to Berdych, I do feel he is considerably spent over his last two matches but he can always convince himself as if he's playing his last match and give his all. And win. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

Andy doesn't usually mind even a hostile crowd but I think he's a bit miffed if his "home" crowd doesn't support him.    I remember how emotional he was at Braehead after a Davis Cup match and I think he realised then what home support was like.    He also experienced it at the Olympics and it really lifted him.

Tim Henman was supported totally always.   The crowd played with him and tried hard to get him over the line.

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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #37 on: July 02, 2013, 06:01 PM »
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He's pretty good with a hostile crowd outside country, no doubt. I really think he's better off not paying as much attention and just play his game. Let the support come naturally and it will come in full force once he wins Wimbledon. 
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #38 on: July 02, 2013, 06:21 PM »
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Andy doesn't usually mind even a hostile crowd but I think he's a bit miffed if his "home" crowd doesn't support him.    I remember how emotional he was at Braehead after a Davis Cup match and I think he realised then what home support was like.    He also experienced it at the Olympics and it really lifted him.


Unfortunately, we must not overlook that at 2012 O2 finals, how the crowd booed Andy when he came on court to play Federer. That situation must have hurt Andy deeply considering the larger percentage of the audience were Brits.

Fortunately, Andy has moved on
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #39 on: July 02, 2013, 06:54 PM »
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Please never tell me that an English crowd is not biased. Because they are Andy has to put up with this and it is a good thing. But I am sure he will never forget his treatment at the 02.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #40 on: July 02, 2013, 07:05 PM »
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Guys,I've posted an interesting piece on the Wimbledon crowds in the News Articles thread,that agrees with a lot of what's been said on here about them.Worth checking out!
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #41 on: July 02, 2013, 08:58 PM »
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Please never tell me that an English crowd is not biased. Because they are Andy has to put up with this and it is a good thing. But I am sure he will never forget his treatment at the 02.

LB I totally agree, Andy will never be accepted by the main crowd at Wimbledon which I think is a great shame as it does not appear there will be another home grown player of Andy's standard for a very long time and chances are they will be Scottish, perpetuating the whole non acceptance thing again, given the investments in Scottish tennis by the Murray family.
I know Andy has a lot of English fans, very true and supportive ones who appreciate his talent and ability and have no problems with his nationality and they are proper tennis fans who recognise sublime talent when they see it.
The crowd on CC on Monday were pathetic, despite Andy's bid to gee them up at the end of the second set, the whole country is desperate for a home grown Wimbledon champion, the crowd on CC should realise that and play there part.  I was at the DC matches at Braehead and you can clearly see what it meant to Andy to have the crowd cheering and chanting his name, now that crowd was by no means 100% totally Scottish, there were a lot of English people there, I was sitting beside a few of them and they were totally committed to supporting Andy.  Why can this not be the case at Wimbledon - the support for Laura Robson was amazing and quite rightly so, it's just such a shame the crowd can't show the same support for Andy,
My suggestion would be ship the entire population of Dunblane down to CC and get our boy across the line, or screen his documentary on the big screen just before he comes on court.  It is obvious that Andy knows he is loved and appreciated when he comes home and you can see how important that is to him.  I just feel a fervent partisan crowd (Olympic or DC like) would give Andy that extra %age required to get to the Holy Grail!!   


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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #42 on: July 02, 2013, 09:06 PM »
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Please never tell me that an English crowd is not biased. Because they are Andy has to put up with this and it is a good thing. But I am sure he will never forget his treatment at the 02.
You can't generalise an 'English crowd'.
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #43 on: July 02, 2013, 09:18 PM »
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^ No, you can't.  And also, some Scottish people will admit they don't like Andy.  A friend of mine said it to me just the other night.  I asked her why, and what did she know about him, other that his (let's face it) monotone post match interviews.  Turned out she didn't really know much about him at all.  I advised her to watch the documentary, and then tell me she didn't like him...  Very Happy
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Re: Murray toughs it out on centre court « Reply #44 on: July 02, 2013, 09:21 PM »
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^ No, you can't.  And also, some Scottish people will admit they don't like Andy.  A friend of mine said it to me just the other night.  I asked her why, and what did she know about him, other that his (let's face it) monotone post match interviews.  Turned out she didn't really know much about him at all.  I advised her to watch the documentary, and then tell me she didn't like him...  Very Happy
It's always the case, isn't it? The large majority of those that claim to dislike him (or even worse, genuinely despise him) generally know nothing about him. Apparently being 'dour' (which apparently is now another term for having a bit of a monotone voice and being tired after a match) is a valid reason to dislike someone. The mind boggles.
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