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Question: How Should Deadlines Be Enforced?
Set in stone by whatever deadline is posted by the organized - 1 (20%)
Set by whatever deadline is posted by the organized but with a few minutes leniency to the discretion of the organiser - 1 (20%)
Set by whenever the first of the predicted matches begins - 1 (20%)
Set so you can post a prediction on a match which hasn't begun yet - 2 (40%)
Total Voters: 5

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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #15 on: March 11, 2013, 11:24 PM »
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I'm not actually really too fussed what the rules are, I just want them completely clarified so I know what I'm doing and people won't be confused like TheMadHatter said he was. If the rules are going to be that of a set deadline then from now on I want to completely set by it, but when I said I was going to do so in the other topic some people started saying that wasn't a good idea.

Basically I think if you're that focused on posting and points then you make sure you get the predictions up prompt Shrug If you're late one day then you just make sure you get the predictions up the next day Smile
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #16 on: March 11, 2013, 11:26 PM »
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I'm not actually really too fussed what the rules are, I just want them completely clarified so I know what I'm doing and people won't be confused like TheMadHatter said he was. If the rules are going to be that of a set deadline then from now on I want to completely set by it, but when I said I was going to do so in the other topic some people started saying that wasn't a good idea.
Are you saying this is ambiguous?

Deadlines for predictions are always set before the chosen matches begin and are based on UK time unless otherwise stated.

Perhaps to make it clearer, it simply need refining to:

Deadlines for predictions are always set by the organiser. This deadline will be at some point before the chosen matches begin and are based on UK time unless otherwise stated.
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #17 on: March 11, 2013, 11:27 PM »
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I say we should stick to the rules. Sure, rules are made to be broken.. but imho this should be set at the beginning of the tournie, and not mid-tournie.

Personally speaking, I always try to finish what I start. yes
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 11:39 PM »
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Are you saying this is ambiguous?

Deadlines for predictions are always set before the chosen matches begin and are based on UK time unless otherwise stated.

Perhaps to make it clearer, it simply need refining to:

Deadlines for predictions are always set by the organiser. This deadline will be at some point before the chosen matches begin and are based on UK time unless otherwise stated.

Yes that's fine. I hadn't actually realised what the exact wording in the rules was before all this but it has always seemed to me that the way the game is played and posted- made it clear that predictions were to be made before the deadline Smile
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 11:39 PM »
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Are you saying this is ambiguous?
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The problem was that we (or mainly I, although I saw Hazel do it first) have been flexible on that rule during the tournaments and have been accepting posts made after deadlines and even when matches have started. As a result TheMadHatter understandably thought that it was acceptable to do so.

Which highlights the problem really that by trying to be nice and encourage more people to play by being flexible I have introduced ambiguity into the rules. Everybody had seemed to be happy about this though until recently as the last two times it's happened sidtypical has pointed out that he doesn't think it's right not to follow the set rules.

Which brings us to now, where I said in the other topic that since sid didn't seem happy about the rules not be enforcement I would change my stance from now on and enforce them to the set deadline. Upon me posting this statement though some other members said it wasn't a good idea and we should keep it friendlier and allow the most people to be able to play. Which is why I then posted this topic to see what rules people would most like to see, so we could have the best rules for people set in place.
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 11:39 PM »
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The problem was that we (or mainly I, although I saw Hazel do it first) have been flexible on that rule during the tournaments and have been accepting posts made after deadlines and even when matches have started. As a result TheMadHatter understandably thought that it was acceptable to do so.

Which highlights the problem really that by trying to be nice and encourage more people to play by being flexible I have introduced ambiguity into the rules. Everybody had seemed to be happy about this though until recently as the last two times it's happened sidtypical has pointed out that he doesn't think it's right not to follow the set rules.

Which brings us to now, where I said in the other topic that since sid didn't seem happy about the rules not be enforcement I would change my stance from now on and enforce them to the set deadline. Upon me posting this statement though some other members said it wasn't a good idea and we should keep it friendlier and allow the most people to be able to play. Which is why I then posted this topic to see what rules people would most like to see, so we could have the best rules for people set in place.
A deadline is a deadline, I don't think there should be any leniency if you're late. I would have thought that being strict would make things a little easier.
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #21 on: March 11, 2013, 11:43 PM »
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Yes I have done it, but normally if it's only been someone out by a few minutes. But I've tried not to make that habit as I do believe in trying to keep to the deadline.
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 11:44 PM »
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A deadline is a deadline, I don't think there should be any leniency if you're late. I would have thought that being strict would make things a little easier.
Ok then, for simplicity and because you are our overlord I will not provide any leniency with the deadlines from now on. And if anybody isn't happy about it, I'll tell them that you force me to do it at gunpoint :P
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 11:48 PM »
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Ok then, for simplicity and because you are our overlord I will not provide any leniency with the deadlines from now on. And if anybody isn't happy about it, I'll tell them that you force me to do it at gunpoint :P

threatening them with boogers might be scarier lol
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #24 on: March 11, 2013, 11:53 PM »
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That's fine, as long as I have some scapegoat to throw to the wolves Smile

I guess this has all been sorted then after that kerfuffle.

By the way I just noticed in the rules it says that all matchday threads must be made 9 hours before the deadline. That means if we make a thread later than 9 hours before the deadline we are breaking the rules ourselves :O
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 11:58 PM »
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That's the great thing about rules, it should normally take all the heat, not the person enforcing them Smile
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #26 on: March 12, 2013, 12:04 AM »
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That means if we make a thread later than 9 hours before the deadline we are breaking the rules ourselves :O
Does that happen often?
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #27 on: March 12, 2013, 12:14 AM »
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Does that happen often?
Not when I'm around :D
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #28 on: March 12, 2013, 07:57 AM »
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Coming late to this thread, but agree with Haze and Mark.
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Re: Deadline Enforcement « Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 12:16 PM »
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I'm definitely in favour of the deadlines standing. ( although I broke the rule yesterday). I think it's fairer on the organisers by making it easier to check the scoring/entries etc.

It's good that a friendly compromise was reached yesterday, allowing members to have this discussion. Hopefully, after today, clarity will have been reached.

For my part, I intend to stick to the deadline from now on. If I miss it, it's my fault - no worries !
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