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Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago

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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #75 on: June 15, 2006, 11:49 PM »
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I seriously doubt it if they don't get their acts together. Poor.

Its going to be tough, but this side does have a lot of talent. Surprised

Dont think that there has been an England side before which has won its first two matches at the Cup. no

And I'll maintain that if anyone gets the cup for us, it will be Beckham. And he had been on magical form during the month before the Cup. Plus he has been the one who has literally won both the matches, although John Terry deserves a lot of credit for his heroics.

Tough yes, but possible. woohoo
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #76 on: June 15, 2006, 11:49 PM »
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Yeah we do score the odd goal without him being involved. But just him coming on the pitch gave the whole team and the crowd a lift. We started creating chances after he came on, even without him being involved. Just gives you such a mental lift to know your top man is there.
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #77 on: June 15, 2006, 11:50 PM »
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And I'll maintain that if anyone gets the cup for us, it will be Beckham. And he had been on magical form during the month before the Cup. Plus he has been the one who has literally won both the matches, although John Terry deserves a lot of credit for his heroics.

Forgot about Terry's clearance off the line. Fantastic  =D>
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #78 on: June 15, 2006, 11:53 PM »
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i saw the lift that it gave them. when rooney came on they suddenly started playing so much better. but that is the problem. they dont have enough faith in themselves at the start to give themselves half a chance for the whole match. they need to play like that all the time, whether or not rooney is there. hopefully the fact that rooney had very little to do with either of those goals will tell them that he isnt that necessary.
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #79 on: June 16, 2006, 09:43 AM »
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im still not sure if the decision to put the Roo was a good idea. ok, he needs the match practice if hes going to be playing in the next few matches. god knows england need him. but it was a risky decision. all it would have taken was a tackle from the t and t boys and hed have been out of it. plus, i still can't believe that his metatarsal really is back to full strength after such a small amount of time.

great save from john terry. man of the match for me!
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #80 on: June 16, 2006, 12:46 PM »
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Yep superb from Terry.
As for Rooney, well he looks like he is more fit than Owen tbh. Owen has been invisible in both games. Clearly nowhere near fit enough to be playing.
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #81 on: June 16, 2006, 01:53 PM »
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i agree. put crouch and rooney in the line p then bring owen on if rooney feels any discomfort. the lads sensible. if he feels like hes doing more damage than good he'll say. but stay with crouch. he's the one getting all the results.

 impressed with lennon and downing. certainly great on the wing. keep carragher off and put lennon on. in my opinion anyway.
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #82 on: June 16, 2006, 02:14 PM »
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No, have to start with a proper back 4. Carragher was only sacrificed in desparation today. Having Lampard in stops us getting the best out of Gerrard as we have to force him into a more defensive role. Personally I'd like to see Sven have Michael Ballacks to bench ones of his big names and drop Lampard. Move Beckham across to the middle and put Lennon on the right. Beckham usually stays a bit deeper than most attacking midfielders/wingers anyway as he puts in crosses and through balls, rather than playing around the edge of the penalty area. Having him in the centre would allow Gerrard to get forward into the positions where he does the most damage. And he's been playing in the middle for Real Madrid anyway and considers it his best position himself. Have the balls to make a change Sven!
One thing is for sure, if Lennon played for Man Utd or Chelsea he'd be starting IMO. 
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Re: Group B: England vs Trinidad & Tobago « Reply #83 on: June 17, 2006, 12:28 AM »
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The only good thing to come out of that game:

England may or may not have the best team man for man, but none of that matters when there's no team element to their play.
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