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Re: New England Manager « Reply #30 on: April 27, 2006, 11:51 AM »
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Fair post Grapcopy, you would definitely know more about Allardyce than me so I welcome your posts.
I still don't think he is international manager quality though.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #31 on: April 27, 2006, 11:57 AM »
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I wish that Cole is fit for the final, that will give him a good rehearsal in Ronaldinho. Owen needs to come to form though.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #32 on: April 27, 2006, 12:10 PM »
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Thats exactly right Bev. Thats the reason why there are no good English managers. Because clubs are only looking at foreigners with good records. The English ones don't get a chance to develop, much the same as the players. We just have to hope that Stuart Pearce, relatively young in manager terms, develops into a good manager, capable of taking England somewhere good in the future.

Same with the players, managers seem to only look to foreign talent. they would rather buy a 16/17 year old Spaniard, than try to develop their own player from home. Thats why there is a lack of English talent at the moment. We may have a few world class players in the national team, but there isn't much outside the regular internationals.
If, for example Paul Robinson, top class keeper gets injured, the only other one around is Calamity James. There are no left wingers, other than Joe Cole who is not really a left winger. Outside of Owen and Rooney, who will score goals? Ashley Cole is one of the best few left backs in the world, who is there if he doesn't get fit in time. Wayne Bridge? Not an international player by a long shot. We can fill a starting lineuo with world class players, but there isn't much to write home about outside of those few players. And that is primarily because the young English players are just not getting the opportunities.

Scolari isn't leaving Portugal as far as I know. On his interview on the news he said he was contracted to Portugal and was going to the World Cup with them. The FA are trying to prise him away, or poach him. Why did he leave Brazil? Most coaches only do 1, or 2 at the most tournaments with an international team. Which is why Sven should have gone after Euro 2004. 2 failures was enough. There is so much pressure in Brazil, people commit suicide if they don't win the WC etc. Once he had won it, there was nothing left to achieve with them, and the pressure of doing it again would just be too great. So I suppose he did all he wanted, then looked for a new adventure.

You didn't really touch a nerve, in fact I'm not even really disagreeing with you. Football is probably one of my more knowlegeable subjects, so I can probably post better on it than other stuff.

Bloody hell, another essay. And I don't usually use a lot of the text language, but FFS sounds much nicer than typing it out in full doesn't it?



Yes, Alex another riveting read - really!  Let's hope Stuart Pearce does come through - what passion he'd bring into the team!

My son plays left back and he's left footed - lets have him eh?  No, you're right about no-one to fall back on, can't the FA see this, that we need up and coming players to come through - a bit like the tennis eh?

Yes, I agree, Sven should have gone a long, long time ago.  Thanks for info on Scolari - not as knowlegeable on footy subject, in fact not very knowledgeable on anything!

Yes, FFS does sound better!

But I just don't think Scolari is right for England!
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #33 on: April 27, 2006, 12:13 PM »
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I dont want Scolari either but I guess he wants us. That man wants more and more laurels, so it will be little surprise if he wants to coach England.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #34 on: April 27, 2006, 12:15 PM »
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Lets remember he hasn't accepted yet, and he is still contracted to Portugal. I wouldn't say "he wants us" just yet. The FA want him, we don't really know what he wants yet.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #35 on: April 27, 2006, 12:18 PM »
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He agreed on a "gentleman's agreement" with the Portugal federation, he said no talks with any country till before the WC ends.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #36 on: April 27, 2006, 05:47 PM »
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i think it would be a good move for england ... thsi man is a good manager . I no alot of people feel  we should have an english manager but i dont think there is anyone capable at the moment but i think Sturt Pierce will make a great job at it in a few more year when he has a bit more experience
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #37 on: April 27, 2006, 09:16 PM »
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Very dissapointed that it's not an english man. Think I think we must wait and see. dontknow
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #38 on: April 28, 2006, 07:49 AM »
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The more I think about this, the more I feel that it is so wrong! 

Basically, all English/British league managers should give up now because they are never going to get a crack at the top job when the FA keep on giving it to managers from elsewhere.  They say that none of the managers here had the experience.  Well there never going to get the opportunity of gaining any experience are they?

It just beggers belief in my eyes.  ranting
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #39 on: April 28, 2006, 06:06 PM »
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Scolari's not got it after all! confused

(Breaking news on the BBC)
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #40 on: April 28, 2006, 06:55 PM »
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Bring on the Allerdice, he is the one for the job, I don't want it to be steve McClaren he is a n*b. hehe
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #41 on: April 28, 2006, 08:43 PM »
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Scolari's not got it after all! confused

(Breaking news on the BBC) http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4955490.stm

do u no why ?? in the article it says " In the last few days when I was not even the manager of England my freedom was taken away from me

Luiz Felipe Scolari .. it the media ,,, i totally understand why he doesnt want the job
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #42 on: April 28, 2006, 11:27 PM »
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Yep turned it down. There were 20 reporters outside his house all night apparently.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #43 on: April 29, 2006, 01:01 AM »
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I'm sorry for all those who thought that this was a good appointment but  woohoo

Needs to go to an Englishman or a Brit at the very least!  And someone who can handle the British press.
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Re: New England Manager « Reply #44 on: April 29, 2006, 11:33 AM »
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I disagree slightly Bev. Why should a Brit who is not English be any better for England than a non-Brit? In my book, they are both not English and have no more or less allegiance to England than each other. In fact, the Brit probably dislikes England more than the non-Brit.
At the end of the day, a Scot, Welshman, or Northern Irishman is not English and is hence absolutely no different to Scolari being Brazilian. Only difference being they probably haven't had anywhere near the success he has had.
Anyway, there is not much left to debate. Mclaren's got it surely.
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